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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

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Glen Sathers Cigar said:
Larry's report about the Rangers going in for Brady is not signaling they're going to trade for him right now or as part of a Trouba trade.

It's about planting the seed publicly and especially in Brady's head that the Rangers want him.

Of course Ottawa shoots it down. Calgary would've shot it down if anyone suggested they were trading Matthew a year before he got traded.

But if Brady has it in his head the NYR want him and things continue to stall in Ottawa he could end up forcing their hand. You never know, not saying it's likely, but that's what leaking this is about. Communicating the Brady that we want you, just so you know.
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Yep, especially given the rumors about NJ and PHI being potential destinations as well. You not only want the player to know you want them, you also want to keep him from potentially signing with an in-division rival.
 
Bob Richards said:
Get Mike Ricci as an assistant coach ASAP
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Great choice.
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
What exactly did Larry Whistledown say in regards to Brady?

Is it wish casting or is there weight behind it? He whiffed on a bunch of shit last year.
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Mike in Houston said:

Messy Jacob Trouba breakup is just the start of Rangers overhaul​

There was the eight-day week stretching from the last day of October to the seventh of November of 1975 in which Ed Giacomin was placed on waivers before Jean Ratelle and Brad Park were traded to the Bruins for Phil Esposito and Carol Vadnais (and Joe Zanussi).

There was the three-day stretch the first week of May of 2021 in which Artemi Panarin was thrown around like a rag doll by Tom Wilson, the Rangers issued a statement condemning the NHL’s failure to suspend the Washington winger, and within short order both team president John Davidson and general manager Jeff Gorton were fired and replaced by Chris Drury.

And now there is this.

And there will be more.

The fortnight of tumult triggered by a pair of no-show first-periods in Calgary and Edmonton that motivated Drury to send a Substack message across the league advertising that the club was open for business while specifically citing Jacob Trouba and Chris Kreider reached another level on Friday.

That is when the Rangers all but fired their captain following a one-on-one conversation with Drury in which it is believed that the defenseman was told that if he did not accept a trade he would be placed on waivers.

We are told that Trouba, who was able to use his influence to block a summer trade in order to remain in New York while his wife completed the final year of her medical residency, was given at least a pair of trade options to accept.

He did not participate in the morning skate with Victor Mancini, recalled on Friday, set to take his spot in the lineup for the upcoming match at the Garden against Pittsburgh.

If it does get to the point where Trouba is placed on waivers, it is unknown whether any team would claim the 30-year-old defenseman, who has one more year to go on his contract that carries an $8 million cap hit per.

And it is unknown what Drury and the Rangers hierarchy would do in that case. Would the club assign him to the AHL Wolf Pack (for which the team would get cap relief of $1.15M)? Would they send him home, an act the NHLPA might likely grieve?

This has been two weeks in the making, this has been nearly three months in the making since Trouba reported to camp and this has been five months in the making. This has been five months in the making since July 1.

Trouba, an inspirational leader after ascending to the captaincy at the start of the 2022-23 season, appeared detached and aggrieved from the start of camp. He disappeared as a physical force on the ice.

The Rangers, who have been off-kilter since the start of the season, had a lame duck captain who was acting that way.

It became untenable and unhealthy during this stretch in which the Blueshirts have dropped six of their last seven games in regulation after being able to camouflage their flaws for the first three weeks of the season because of superior goaltending from both Igor Shesterkin and Jonathan Quick.

So Drury took action after Monday’s lifeless exhibition against the Devils. There were multiple meetings, more than one with Trouba. There are Rangers who are apparently bitter about the way that Drury put the popular Barclay Goodrow on waivers in mind-June so the reaction in the room to this will have to be monitored.

This is pro sports, this is big business, but when business affects you, it becomes personal. It is on the Rangers not to take this personally.

This will not be a one-off. Excising Trouba takes care of one issue but Drury has spent the week in trade talks with multiple clubs with The Post learning that Ottawa’s Brady Tkachuk has become the Rangers’ primary target.

A trade for the Senators’ 25-year-old hardscrabble captain would immediately change the Blueshirts’ identity. The package going the other way would obviously have to be significant and could very well include Alexis Lafreniere.

The ground is shaking under the Rangers.

Get ready for the aftershocks.
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Getting Tkachuk for anything less than Lafreniere at this point probably gets the entire Sens front office fired. The only way around that is if Tkachuk forces his way here when his NMC kicks in this summer.

Brooks just probably laid the first brick in that path with his tweet.
 
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Levitate said:
Nah I do think this is looking to get the team going for this year, Drury's not gonna give up on the whole year. I agree he's looking to move those guys out but I don't think he's just gonna move them for futures. He's gonna try to solidfy parts of the lineup and the "kids" are gonna get bigger roles and if there's a big swing somewhere he can take with some cap space he'll do it.
This isn't a rebuild.
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Not a rebuild. But a significant retool is and should be totally on the table.
 
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Trxjw said:
Getting Tkachuk for anything less than Lafreniere at this point probably gets the entire Sens front office fired. The only way around that is if Tkachuk forces his way here when his NMC kicks in this summer.

Brooks just probably laid the first brick in that path with his tweet.
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great to see you back!
 
Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
His circumstance was slightly different no?
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15 years ago would refer to the OTT <-> SJ trade
The original trade from ATL post car crash got the Thrashers Marian Hossa and one-time Ranger Greg De Vries. That trade was pretty win-win.

The concussed I believe was Jonathan Cheechoo who if you recall won the Maurice Richard trophy but then his game started to deteriorate. I don't remember concussions being a huge factor. I thought it was a hip issue. They also got Milan Michalek (50-60 point player) so that is much better than a 3rd liner, and it was a 2nd, not a mid first rounder.
 
Raspewtin said:
I will say this - as someone very much on the "get rid of Trouba" train, I don't think replacing him with Mancini is good. Mancini needs a year in the AHL. Playing him at the NHL level right now is not ideal and would actually be worse than Trouba, IMO.
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Just play Ruhwedel. This season is about regaining flexibility and assets and come out the other side with a contender.
 
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25. Elite finisher. Piss and vinegar. Drags you into the fight. Recalibrates the entire culture overnight. Agreed - there isn't a single player on this roster / in this organization I wouldn't move for Blueshirt Brady.
 
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Trxjw said:
Getting Tkachuk for anything less than Lafreniere at this point probably gets the entire Sens front office fired. The only way around that is if Tkachuk forces his way here when his NMC kicks in this summer.

Brooks just probably laid the first brick in that path with his tweet.
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Yup.

Drury playing the long game.

He's going to be a Ranger after July 1st once the Rangers accumulate some assets from dealing Lindgren, Kreider, and maybe more at the deadline after he says he'll only waive for NYR, NJ, or Philly.
 
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25. Elite finisher. Piss and vinegar. Drags you into the fight. Recalibrates the entire culture overnight. Agreed - there isn't a single player on this roster / in this organization I wouldn't move for Blueshirt Brady.
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He also takes absolutely terrible penalties.

I also wouldn’t trade him 1:1 for Laf.
Who’s younger and out produced him at 5v5 last year.

A leader doesn’t cost your team wins. He does.

That’s why we’re shipping out Trouba.

I don’t need a skilled Sean Avery.
 
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