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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)
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McRanger92
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Id consider it for Othmann honestly. Pinto gives us much needed center depth, and with Edstrom and berard looking good, what is Othmann's role?
I think if you’re dealing Othmann the return needs to be a D.
I’m not against moving him either.
I’m not against moving him either.
Really? Don't coaches usually fill out their staff? I'm sure Drury has the final say but I can't imagine a coach like Lavi not having a say on who his assistants are.
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Yeah honestly it just goes to show none of these national media types have the first clue what the Rangers issues are. Like Pagnotta saying they want a "top 6 winger" for Kakko.
Id Drury is making a trade soon and it doesnt effect our defense in some way, it's a waste of time.
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Holy shit, I really think that I work with numbskulls in my job. HFNYR makes the day bearable.
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I know this board is kinda divided on him but i'd really rather keep Othmann unless a great deal for a LHD shows up.
I have essentially zero expectations to see any sort of moves until maybe the deadline. That trade we just saw with Minnesota and Columbus.. those are easier mid-season when there's minimal money involved. Teams will have more cap space accrued by the deadline, so I'm looking more toward then or the summer if this team continues to trend like this. And at this point it's beginning to look like there's zero reason to try salvaging this season.
There is hardly anyone I'd keep off the table. Everyone is struggling. Tuba, Lindgren, Vinny, Kreider. They're all on the table. Mika would have to waive, I have zero expectations for any sort of trade there. I don't believe that my boy Chytil can stay healthy. He doesn't look the same since coming back. He was a shell of himself when he came back last playoffs. And as much as I like him, he'd be on the table. Let someone else take a gamble on his health. I'm not going out of my way to move K'Andre or KK, but almost anyone can go for the right price at this point. Fox, Perreault and Laffy are really the only ones I wouldn't move.
I think coming into the season we needed a few minor tweaks. Move Lindgren, Tuba and Goodrow's money. Promote Schneider. Find a LHD. If our vets were playing their game I think we'd be alright. At this point though, with how this teams playing? Swapping out Lindgren for a better puck mover will not make Mika, Trocheck and Kreider stop sucking. Our vet core is tanking the team. There's still plenty of time, but if this group can't pull it together we should start looking at this year as a transitionary one
There is hardly anyone I'd keep off the table. Everyone is struggling. Tuba, Lindgren, Vinny, Kreider. They're all on the table. Mika would have to waive, I have zero expectations for any sort of trade there. I don't believe that my boy Chytil can stay healthy. He doesn't look the same since coming back. He was a shell of himself when he came back last playoffs. And as much as I like him, he'd be on the table. Let someone else take a gamble on his health. I'm not going out of my way to move K'Andre or KK, but almost anyone can go for the right price at this point. Fox, Perreault and Laffy are really the only ones I wouldn't move.
I think coming into the season we needed a few minor tweaks. Move Lindgren, Tuba and Goodrow's money. Promote Schneider. Find a LHD. If our vets were playing their game I think we'd be alright. At this point though, with how this teams playing? Swapping out Lindgren for a better puck mover will not make Mika, Trocheck and Kreider stop sucking. Our vet core is tanking the team. There's still plenty of time, but if this group can't pull it together we should start looking at this year as a transitionary one
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I know that I work with numbskulls.
Shit, I could go tell my boss I work with a bunch of numbskulls and she'd roll her eyes and be like "I know."
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Why is Chris Drury still employed?
I think it was Lavi's. He has connections with Housley and Peca.
I think it was Lavi's. He has connections with Housley and Peca.
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He may need to be where some of that middle 6 wing depth comes from if we move on from players like Kreider and Zibanejad.
If we're doubling down on trying to be a contender this season, he's a key trade chip. But if we think about an on the fly retool, he has to be considered a very important piece for the new build.
Panarin-Tro-Laf
Othmann-Chytil-Perreault
Berard-Kakko-???
It's far from complete but all 3 of our serious top 9 forward prospects need to stick around for a retool. And we probably need to find a new young center in there somewhere.
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Rangers thoughts from Friedman in 32T:
10. As the Rangers figure out where they are going from here, I realized how bad things were during their 6-2 loss in Edmonton two Saturdays ago. Watch Jonathan Quick on the goal that makes it 2-0 Oilers. He’s one of my favourites, re-inventing himself from two-time Stanley Cup champion starter, two-time Vezina finalist and 2012 Conn Smythe winner into Igor Shesterkin's sturdy backup. But he maintains a high standard, demanding a lot of himself. When Nurse’s shot beats him, he’s mad at himself, at first. But then he lifts his mask — which is rare — looks up and, well, you can see the disbelief.
Quick stopped the first 18 shots he faced in Edmonton’s first-period deluge, until the Oilers finally broke through at 17:34. The second one, the one that had Quick so upset, was shorthanded with nine seconds remaining in the period. A total breakdown allows Nurse to walk right in, alone. That’s a massive mistake at the end of a period, something you cannot allow.
11. The Rangers have lost six of seven, and held on for dear life for their one victory, 4-3 over Montreal. Two of those defeats came before GM Chris Drury let teams know he’d be willing to discuss Kreider and Jacob Trouba, the rest as the team absorbed the aftershocks. Clearly, Drury saw 12-4-1 as a mirage, with underlying numbers indicating the Rangers bleed chances and were trending badly. It’s Drury’s job to have big-picture vision. Players think differently. They care about Ws and Ls, especially these Rangers, knowing they will be judged in April, May and June, not November.
12. A few thoughts on the overall picture: first, there’s been talk about this re-opening old wounds from Barclay Goodrow’s release last summer — not that he was cut, but that he wasn’t given proper notice it was coming. I work in a business (sports media) where we are similar to the athletes we cover in one key area: in the vast majority of cases, we don’t write our own exits. I’ve been around long enough to know it’s very likely that when my day comes, I’m not going to be thrilled about how it happens. I’ve been through it before and seen it happen to others. That’s life in the big city and very real. When players see that occur, they don’t only think about the guys who are named, they look at Trouba (captain) and Kreider (longest-serving Ranger) and think, “If it happens to them, it can happen to me.”
Go back to Trouba’s comments at the start of camp. He knew this was going to be his last season in New York, he had time to process it and was prepared for the reality. You have time to process things in the summer. When it happens in-season, you still need to process things, but you also have games to play and it can screw with your head. That’s all real, and you can see it with them.
13. All of that said, there comes a point where you have to move past it and do your job. You have to show pride in yourself and for your friends/teammates. Even if you motivate yourself to win in spite of management, you do that. It isn’t unreasonable for the Rangers to expect with three days off that the players re-set and re-focus.
10. As the Rangers figure out where they are going from here, I realized how bad things were during their 6-2 loss in Edmonton two Saturdays ago. Watch Jonathan Quick on the goal that makes it 2-0 Oilers. He’s one of my favourites, re-inventing himself from two-time Stanley Cup champion starter, two-time Vezina finalist and 2012 Conn Smythe winner into Igor Shesterkin's sturdy backup. But he maintains a high standard, demanding a lot of himself. When Nurse’s shot beats him, he’s mad at himself, at first. But then he lifts his mask — which is rare — looks up and, well, you can see the disbelief.
Quick stopped the first 18 shots he faced in Edmonton’s first-period deluge, until the Oilers finally broke through at 17:34. The second one, the one that had Quick so upset, was shorthanded with nine seconds remaining in the period. A total breakdown allows Nurse to walk right in, alone. That’s a massive mistake at the end of a period, something you cannot allow.
11. The Rangers have lost six of seven, and held on for dear life for their one victory, 4-3 over Montreal. Two of those defeats came before GM Chris Drury let teams know he’d be willing to discuss Kreider and Jacob Trouba, the rest as the team absorbed the aftershocks. Clearly, Drury saw 12-4-1 as a mirage, with underlying numbers indicating the Rangers bleed chances and were trending badly. It’s Drury’s job to have big-picture vision. Players think differently. They care about Ws and Ls, especially these Rangers, knowing they will be judged in April, May and June, not November.
12. A few thoughts on the overall picture: first, there’s been talk about this re-opening old wounds from Barclay Goodrow’s release last summer — not that he was cut, but that he wasn’t given proper notice it was coming. I work in a business (sports media) where we are similar to the athletes we cover in one key area: in the vast majority of cases, we don’t write our own exits. I’ve been around long enough to know it’s very likely that when my day comes, I’m not going to be thrilled about how it happens. I’ve been through it before and seen it happen to others. That’s life in the big city and very real. When players see that occur, they don’t only think about the guys who are named, they look at Trouba (captain) and Kreider (longest-serving Ranger) and think, “If it happens to them, it can happen to me.”
Go back to Trouba’s comments at the start of camp. He knew this was going to be his last season in New York, he had time to process it and was prepared for the reality. You have time to process things in the summer. When it happens in-season, you still need to process things, but you also have games to play and it can screw with your head. That’s all real, and you can see it with them.
13. All of that said, there comes a point where you have to move past it and do your job. You have to show pride in yourself and for your friends/teammates. Even if you motivate yourself to win in spite of management, you do that. It isn’t unreasonable for the Rangers to expect with three days off that the players re-set and re-focus.
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In todays 32T blog, EF says Rangers and Ottawa have spoken.
He has connections with Muse too. Muse was part of his staff in Nashville.
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Well he is their 3C. And they arent making the playoffs. And i would bet he doesnt want to be there long term. It would probably cost Kakko and Othmann though.
Pretty sure Laviolette and Drury are on the same wavelength. They are both part of the USA Hockey fraternity and are still intimately involved with the team. Muse was recently the Development Teams coach for a certain age group.
Yeah I'm not particularly interested unless it's something seriously enticing. Lots of talk right now about character, effort, culture... stuff like that. Guys like Othmann, Cuylle, Berard, etc.. those guys will bring the hard nosed, high motor sort of stuff this team needs, with a good bit of skill as well
Yes the u18s. Coached Perreault in his draft year.
but there was a previous connection. This wasn’t someone forced on Lavi
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I don't see how Kakko helps them make the playoffs over Pinto. Kakko is literally just a guy. They need another adult in the room, particularly on defense.
Zub being on LTIR is crushing. They're running completely cooked Travis Hamonic on their top line to predictable results.
I’m afraid you’re going to have to count on God to solve that problem.
Seriously, I don’t think Dolan has enough hockey expertise to be the thug in the room. Yes, I am sure he pushes in certain directions (e.g. toughness, accelerating the rebuild) but it was getting to a point where he couldn’t sell regular season tickets, no less playoff. Tickets. There are owners with a lot less patience.
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I think this is an actual framework with the Rangers adding. Edstrom could be an interesting piece for them.
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The first thing I thought of when I saw EFs blog.
Greig played with Schneider in Brandon. NYR would have seen a lot of him while scouting BS.
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