Machinehead
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That's a different story. I don't think we need a third line winger type of move there, I think we need to make a big swing for ideally a first pair D who would slot onto the second pair.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)
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McRanger92
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Drury should be turning over every rock for a partner for Fox.
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I have no desire to trade Fox. I think that's crazy. But the team is dreadful now, and Panarin isn't going to play for us forever. Getting valuable assets for him rather than letting him walk or re-signing him to an expensive contract is probably the smarter option.
McRanger92
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Panarin only has a year+ left as a Ranger. If they fall further out of it, him being asked to waive is going to become a discussion. He's not Drury's guy either.
If Drury is building a negative reputation around the league with players and agents (and I don’t believe he is) then what does he have to lose?
Trade Igor this season while he still only has a 10 team no trade list.
What non-cap restricted GM wouldn’t trade for one of the best regular season and playoff goalies who’s lock up for the next 9 seasons?
Think of the huge haul. Picks, prospects, young star and serviceable players.
Kocur Dill
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IDK.
IDK. I dont think he's untouchable. Especially with his NMC kicking in soon
I wouldnt trade him for nonsense, but if Dallas called and Heiskenen was on the table? Eh...im listening.
Machinehead
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Yeah, I'm kind over Miller.
He's one of those players who can put up good analytics with the right linemates but his mistakes end up being huge chances.
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Do they see him like that or do they have no choice but to see him like that because of his NMC?
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I just do not get it. How can you watch him play and feel that way
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DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
If Drury knows he's not going to sign panarin after his contract expires then they should look to move him. But who knows what his plan is.
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In one's work environment, a colleague getting a bigger pay can be a motivation killer, why should I even bother push harder when they pay that guy more?
Maybe same goes on in the locker room? Shesterkin's pay maybe killed the core's motivation? They are jealous humans just like anybody else.
Maybe same goes on in the locker room? Shesterkin's pay maybe killed the core's motivation? They are jealous humans just like anybody else.
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KirkAlbuquerque
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Usually in a scenario like that it’s because the person who gets the big pay raise is getting it due to nepotism and or connections.
Everyone on the team knew he was either 2nd or 3rd best player on the team.
He’s now the 2nd highest paid player next year.
Fox could be considered taking a hometown discount.
I don’t see any sour grapes when the team has said over and over “he won the game for us”.
If he was playing like Georgiev and got that bag sure. Would be a motivation killer.
Forget all this cap space for the deadline, we should be sellers. I'd like to see Drury identify some expiring UFAs that a team will pay a small fee to unload so they can do their deadline shopping. Nothing crazy, a mid/late round pick. We need to recoup what was traded away. I'd bet a team would be willing to pay a small price for Quick, Vesey, etc... Maybe they could be the middle man on a 3 way deal to eat some salary on a player for the rest of the season.
Drury has traded away so many picks over the years. He recouped a couple mid/late rounders. Looking forward, he has no 2nd round picks in the next 3 drafts. Shades of the dreaded years with no top picks. Going back to his first draft a few years ago, 3 of his 4 drafts he has had no 2nd round pick. (To be fair, his first year with no 2nd was from Gorton using it to ship off Staal) The year he had one 2nd rounder he traded the first rounder away. I highly doubt we won't recoup a 2nd within the next few drafts, otherwise that'll make it 5 years in a row with no 2nd rounders. 6 out of 7 years with no 2nd rounders would almost be impressive.
And the most notable thing, we need to take a chance on some skill with those late picks. The Gabe selection almost seemed like a miracle compared to Drury's forte. A lot of people are clapping their hands for all these run of the mill bottom line prospects, I'm not so impressed. There's a place for them, I don't mind taking them. But theres a limit. When you look at a large portion of these drafts by Drury that's an obvious target. I'll be the odd man out, I'm not particularly excited by having a million guys that could potentially play on the 4th line. I want impact players. Some of these guys are a dime a dozen. Vesey has been good for us, Carrick has been good for us... these types can be found for nothing. Impact players are the hardest to acquire, that's primarily what the draft philosophy should be.
We wonder why we're not drafting any Duclair's or Buch's anymore... its almost like you have to take a chance drafting those sorts of players... we can't draft some random 6 foot 7 guy every year and then be like Gee I wonder why we can't find any hidden diamonds...
Drury has traded away so many picks over the years. He recouped a couple mid/late rounders. Looking forward, he has no 2nd round picks in the next 3 drafts. Shades of the dreaded years with no top picks. Going back to his first draft a few years ago, 3 of his 4 drafts he has had no 2nd round pick. (To be fair, his first year with no 2nd was from Gorton using it to ship off Staal) The year he had one 2nd rounder he traded the first rounder away. I highly doubt we won't recoup a 2nd within the next few drafts, otherwise that'll make it 5 years in a row with no 2nd rounders. 6 out of 7 years with no 2nd rounders would almost be impressive.
And the most notable thing, we need to take a chance on some skill with those late picks. The Gabe selection almost seemed like a miracle compared to Drury's forte. A lot of people are clapping their hands for all these run of the mill bottom line prospects, I'm not so impressed. There's a place for them, I don't mind taking them. But theres a limit. When you look at a large portion of these drafts by Drury that's an obvious target. I'll be the odd man out, I'm not particularly excited by having a million guys that could potentially play on the 4th line. I want impact players. Some of these guys are a dime a dozen. Vesey has been good for us, Carrick has been good for us... these types can be found for nothing. Impact players are the hardest to acquire, that's primarily what the draft philosophy should be.
We wonder why we're not drafting any Duclair's or Buch's anymore... its almost like you have to take a chance drafting those sorts of players... we can't draft some random 6 foot 7 guy every year and then be like Gee I wonder why we can't find any hidden diamonds...
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And it absolutely should be a thing that is discussed. In spite of his postseason issues, he would not be the top gun wherever he would be going.
I'd be all over moving him and getting most likely multiple 1s, a young roster player, and a top prospect. It 100% is feasible to get that level of a return for a player on 50% of the cap hit for a year and a half.
Call up the Kings. This team has lost in the 1st round for 3 straight years to Edmonton. They can't score. See if they can make it work. Call up Edmonton too. They're dying to get a cup and I would think Panarin would be interested in playing with McDavid/Draisaitl.
If Panarin wouldn't mind playing in Salt Lake, Utah should be another option. Tons of picks and young players. Plenty of cap and they want to make the playoffs.
Go pull what the Mets did with Verlander and Scherzer. Tell Panarin they are re-tooling and will need a season before they can think about contending again.
You need to turn this roster over to the next group of Rangers and I think if you sell Panarin on leaving now, some of the others (Mika/Troch/Kreider) are going to ask out because they have a limited amount of time to win too.
Boris Zubov
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He said this season hinges on Mika waking up, not that the team won't look to move him in the future.
He also mentioned how sensitive & soft he is....plus he said Mika needs to get in shape, but that it's probably not feasible until next off season. That was probably the most telling comment in that segment, indicating that he didn't show up this season ready to play & the results are obvious.
Shadowtron
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Words of wisdom. I was definitely blown away by the season they had last year. I thought they were a bubble team at best. This 24-25 team is a lot closer to what I was expecting. IMO of course.
And all this Fox talk... I have zero issue with Fox. I think a lot of it is just people's frustrations with the team so they're kinda just looking for things... but if you really wanna get crazy here... you'd pivot to a team deep on the left. A team like the Sabres. Dahlin is locked in, they just brought in Byram. You'd be asking for Owen Power. We have Schneider on the right, Mancini looks promising. Im not a huge Emery fan at the moment but he's in the system... that's the sort of deal you'd be looking for. I'm not saying I would, or wouldn't do it... but Owen Power will be a very, very good player for a long time.
