Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)
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Cmox
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Machinehead
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Finally, one bad player the Rangers didn't want.
Mac n Gs
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Georgiev and another young, upcoming Russian goalie in the same room again? What could possibly go wrong?
Cmox
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Geo must be seething. Shesty making bank followed by being traded to a bottom feeder.
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The whole soft tampering thing from Ottawa is pretty pathetic. You've been in a perpetual rebuild for 7+ years at this point and this is what you're talking about? A reporter musing about what the Rangers could be thinking? Then literally every team in the NHL is guilty of tampering all season long.
It does prove my thoughts about the Brooks article though - there's nothing actually happening but it is a shot across the bow to make an overture to Tkachuk that we want you bad, just imagine being a Ranger and think about that to plant the seed over time.
Clearly Ottawa perceived it as exactly that and are all bent out of shape probably because they're afraid of it working. But actual tampering? Because a columnist with zero affiliation with the team wrote an article about how the Rangers would be interested in Brady Tkachuk? Not even close.
The lock step in reporting on it as if it's legitimate from the Canadian hockey media is interesting though. Between this and the pearl clutching about how Trouba (and Goodrow) were offloaded it really seems like there's a concerted effort right now to ruin the Rangers' reputation with players and make them seem like the mean bad team nobody should want to play for because they're such big meanies.
It does prove my thoughts about the Brooks article though - there's nothing actually happening but it is a shot across the bow to make an overture to Tkachuk that we want you bad, just imagine being a Ranger and think about that to plant the seed over time.
Clearly Ottawa perceived it as exactly that and are all bent out of shape probably because they're afraid of it working. But actual tampering? Because a columnist with zero affiliation with the team wrote an article about how the Rangers would be interested in Brady Tkachuk? Not even close.
The lock step in reporting on it as if it's legitimate from the Canadian hockey media is interesting though. Between this and the pearl clutching about how Trouba (and Goodrow) were offloaded it really seems like there's a concerted effort right now to ruin the Rangers' reputation with players and make them seem like the mean bad team nobody should want to play for because they're such big meanies.
Bourne can't skate for shit.
Also isn't a huge fan of bodies of water for some reason...
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Makes me moderately happy.
Also he’s in a similar position again. Askarov is the real deal and is going to come in very shortly and take Georgie’s job again. It’s Shesterkin in NY all over again, just Askarov is even younger and Georgie is older now.
Also just accidentally found out his dad’s name is Georgi Georgiyevich Georgiev. That is not a joke.
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Same goes for mental tuffness.
Rangers led the league in comeback wins last year and have like 70 the last 3 years and we still hear about how they never show any fight.
will1066
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Machinehead
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We've had some extracurriculars in a couple of recent losses, so I guess they're trying.
It's not doing anything!
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My wife told me she'd be into some soft tampering tonight.
will1066
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Please tell me that's you receiving the autographed cap.You both forgot maybe his biggest accomplishment..
I like the concept of Matt Rempe, but I can’t remember the last time I rolled my eyes so hard because of a meme player that certain parts of the media and fanbase can’t help but glaze.
He’s the Haley-Newburgh-Dorsett(all due respect) of hockey players.
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It's crazy they they continually hire coaches that coach a certain way.....yet expect them to change their philosophy to accommodate players???
At this point, we should start getting players that are comfortable with that philosophy as opposed to trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole and over and over again with similar coaches.
I'm not comfortable with or confident in this group regardless of the system.
Time to change it up, but the coaching staff gets more than a year and a half
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Never heard of a soft tampering so i googled it, and in images this comes up. Will Brady even fit in that bag?
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
The Rangers are set up with some flexibility this summer. They can lock up Cuylle if they want to a 5+ year deal, or Kakko even, depending on who they value more. They have a lot of wing depth and 3 centers under contract for the top 9. The issue is on defense.
Miller and Lindgren need to go and I think Drury agrees. There's a reason he locked up Laf and Igor and not K'Andre.
Miller has just not progressed. He's likely to blow up elsewhere if we move him because his raw talent is that of a first pairing guy, but he makes too many mental mistakes in his own zone and doesn't do enough offensively to make it worthwhile. He has looked better the last couple of games, I'll admit, but I'm hesitant to commit to him for 5-6 years.
Assuming something like Cuylle (5x4.25), Jones (1x1.5), Edstrom (1x900K) re-signed, the Rangers can add a player in the realm of $6-9M if they want who can be real difference maker. I'd argue that position should be at LD but there really isn't a FA that sticks out to me.
I'm also assuming Brady Tkachuk isn't available, but if he is I'd be all over that deal and I'd be throwing Miller, Kakko, and Othmann at Ottawa and see what else is needed to complete the deal. Assume he's not though, they should be on Sam Bennett. Something like 6x6. A line of Bennett-Trocheck-Cuylle would be brutal to play against.
QO Vaak and Jones and let them play and bring in a vet 7D like Dumoulin and that's 2/3 of your left side pretty cheap. I think Vaak may surprise a bit. The issue is then K'Andre and Kaapo because you can't really sign both. If you bring in a Bennett, you don't have a need for Kakko or Othmann really and Berard is likely on the 4th line with Perreault completing the Top 9. A lot of different ways the offseason can go but if you package Kaapo and K'Andre you can probably get a pretty good D partner for Fox that fits in the cap configurations. Other options are to move out Chytil and Kreider to create more flexibility but that's less attractive to me.
Miller and Lindgren need to go and I think Drury agrees. There's a reason he locked up Laf and Igor and not K'Andre.
Miller has just not progressed. He's likely to blow up elsewhere if we move him because his raw talent is that of a first pairing guy, but he makes too many mental mistakes in his own zone and doesn't do enough offensively to make it worthwhile. He has looked better the last couple of games, I'll admit, but I'm hesitant to commit to him for 5-6 years.
Assuming something like Cuylle (5x4.25), Jones (1x1.5), Edstrom (1x900K) re-signed, the Rangers can add a player in the realm of $6-9M if they want who can be real difference maker. I'd argue that position should be at LD but there really isn't a FA that sticks out to me.
I'm also assuming Brady Tkachuk isn't available, but if he is I'd be all over that deal and I'd be throwing Miller, Kakko, and Othmann at Ottawa and see what else is needed to complete the deal. Assume he's not though, they should be on Sam Bennett. Something like 6x6. A line of Bennett-Trocheck-Cuylle would be brutal to play against.
QO Vaak and Jones and let them play and bring in a vet 7D like Dumoulin and that's 2/3 of your left side pretty cheap. I think Vaak may surprise a bit. The issue is then K'Andre and Kaapo because you can't really sign both. If you bring in a Bennett, you don't have a need for Kakko or Othmann really and Berard is likely on the 4th line with Perreault completing the Top 9. A lot of different ways the offseason can go but if you package Kaapo and K'Andre you can probably get a pretty good D partner for Fox that fits in the cap configurations. Other options are to move out Chytil and Kreider to create more flexibility but that's less attractive to me.
will1066
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haohmaru
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Stamkos for Mika? I keep Mika 100% of the time.
W doesn't easily buy D or C.
Miller is the obvious solution to a partner for Fox. For that to happen it's clear he needs the correct coaching. It's also clear that Housley is not up to that important job at all.
