Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[McRanger92]

They were all series where we started out in solid shape but then a combination of momentum, flaws getting exposed, and getting out coached caused everything to spiral.

Up 2-0 on Tampa - Trouba falls on the powerplay and Tampa scores a shorty, lose the next 4 straight

Up 2-0 on NJ - Lose 2-1 in G3 OT and look slow and disjointed the rest of the series

Up 2-1 on FL - Zibanejad blows game 4 and never recover in a series where we were already hanging on by the seat of our pants

Tampa and Florida series were a carbon copy, but I didnt think the Devils series was anything like it. Devils loss reeked of a lack of coaching adjustments and a checked out team losing to a worse one.

Florida and Tampa's experience helped carry them when things got dicey for them early in those series. They were also both just better than us.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

Here's a thought, Detroit is floundering (surprise!) and they signed Gustafsson to a 2 years x $2m contract. In terms of a bottom-pairing veteran d-man, the team could do far worse. Especially if Yzerbum is having buyers remorse and will send him away for nothing. I know he's not perfect but he was a net positive for the team last year and would be a nice, cheap insurance policy for next season as a veteran depth d-man.

Thoughts?

How did they even let him leave if that’s what he signed for

 

[Vitto79]

How did they even let him leave if that’s what he signed for

Cause he’s bad defensively

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I've seen enough times in sports, a team or a player struggle to figure it out in the playoffs, in tight games, or in big spots, and suddenly figure it out. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future success. I understand fans being pessimistic about the team's chances in a playoff series with a team like Florida, but they can figure it out. They'll have to in order to be champions. We have no control over it so we just have to wait and see.

 

[NYR Viper]

How did they even let him leave if that’s what he signed for

I think they wanted to give Jones the legit shot to play and wanted to save that ~$1.2m over the course of the season. I got the reasoning, but I would have probably traded Lindgren and signed someone else, even a depth guy like Gustafsson

 

[Synergy27]

Tampa and Florida series were a carbon copy, but I didnt think the Devils series was anything like it. Devils loss reeked of a lack of coaching adjustments and a checked out team losing to a worse one.

Florida and Tampa's experience helped carry them when things got dicey for them early in those series. They were also both just better than us.

The Rangers had Tampa dead to rights before Trouba took one of the dumbest penalties I’ve ever seen. Then came the unraveling.

 

[eco's bones]

They are a contender for the Presidents Trophy and the Metro Division title, but not the Stanley cup.

The way they want to play is just not the way to win in the playoffs, I’m sorry.

And since the team didn’t change anything at all this summer, that won’t change either.

I'm not sure I agree with all this. I think a lot of the changes that are going on or going to happen soon are internal changes. Players like Mancini and Edstrom this year bringing size and skating are one thing. I'm happy to see this. It beats filling holes with 30 year old free agents. We're seeing more responsibility and more minutes with Schneider. Chytil looks better than he ever has and Kakko and Cuylle may be breaking out a bit too. Organizationally Berard and Othmann are closer than they were last year. Rempe still developing but there are things he can bring too. The Rangers have a lot of younger players who are doing pretty well for themselves.

As far as the two UFA's we signed both so far have been solid additions.

The team who knocked us off the Panthers on the other hand were forced to move on from several players most notably Brandon Montour and Oliver Ekman-Larsson. They still carry a lot of self belief though something that comes naturally to teams that win championships. On paper they seem less formidable. On the ice because of that Cup means they're going to be a tough team to knock off.

 

[leetch99]

I don't enjoy watching the team flounder while the goaltender pulls rabbits out of his ass at all.

One of the longest running shows in the city.....From the King to Igor....seamless transition .

 

[leetch99]

Sure. And that’s a reasonable question the organization has to work out. Do they open it up and then fall back to a playoff style in the spring? I’m sure that’s what the players want to do and personally I like it as a fan. It’s not easy of course. And when push comes to shove in April-May, how will they adjust. I personally think it’s feasible to treat the regular season differently from the playoffs. But I’m no expert.

That can be a tricky switch to turn on and off....I'd sooner take the season to figure out what we have in certain games and then run with the finished product towards the playoffs .

 

[haohmaru]

I don't know how many times I need to repeat that winning regular season games doesn't matter to me.

Just for shits and giggles, how many teams have more playoff wins than the Rangers since 2012-13? I honestly don't know but it can't be a whole lot.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Just for shits and giggles, how many teams have more playoff wins than the Rangers since 2012-13? I honestly don't know but it can't be a whole lot.

Weird cutoff when the team made the ECF the year before then.

 

[haohmaru]

Weird cutoff when the team made the ECF the year before then.

Yeah, I guess you could do 2011-12 or, hell, go back to 2005-6. The answer will be the same: Not many.

 

[UnSandvich]

Yeah, I guess you could do 2011-12 or, hell, go back to 2005-6. The answer will be the same: Not many.

Since 05-06 3 teams have more in terms of counting numbers. However in terms of win percentage in the playoffs we're 20th

 

[will1066]

Since 05-06 3 teams have more in terms of counting numbers. However in terms of win percentage in the playoffs we're 20th

Due to the boatload of 7-game series. Winning 4-3 repeatedly doesn't do wonders for that win pct.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Since 05-06 3 teams have more in terms of counting numbers. However in terms of win percentage in the playoffs we're 20th

Playoffs are one place where counting numbers are far more important than percentage.

 

[UnSandvich]

On an almost entirely unrelated note, the History of Hockey board is doing a Top 60 goalies of all time ranking. Hank placed 12th, highest of any post-lockout goalie.

 

[TominNC]

Just for shits and giggles, how many teams have more playoff wins than the Rangers since 2012-13? I honestly don't know but it can't be a whole lot.

Rangers are 4th

 

[mike14]

Since 05-06 3 teams have more in terms of counting numbers. However in terms of win percentage in the playoffs we're 20th

We're 5th in series wins since the lockout (TBL, PIT, BOS and CHI have more), and sadly our 4 Conference Final loses are the most in the league

 

[SnowblindNYR]

On an almost entirely unrelated note, the History of Hockey board is doing a Top 60 goalies of all time ranking. Hank placed 12th, highest of any post-lockout goalie.

Don't tell Canadians fans this. They're the only people on earth that think Price was better.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Lindgren, Kakko, Othmann for Vlasic and Donato - get on the phone Drury

 

[bernmeister]

Lindgren, Kakko, Othmann for Vlasic and Donato - get on the phone Drury

no

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

no

yes

 

[Alluckks]

The Lightning, Devils and Panthers losses in the playoffs honestly all felt molecularly idential to me. Those series played out the exact same way.

It didn’t feel like it was bad luck or we got goalied or PDO shenanigans but rather we have some terminally fatal flaws that we can’t dig out of once the snowball starts rolling.

With Panarin, Zibanejad, and our very mediocre defensive crew beyond Fox that once the ball starts rolling downhill (in a negative sense) that it never stops - postseason wise.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

With Panarin, Zibanejad, and our very mediocre defensive crew beyond Fox that once the ball starts rolling downhill (in a negative sense) that it never stops - postseason wise.

Also, our top guys are finesse players that get worn down in a more physical environment that the playoffs presents. Especially Fox. That's why Ziba shying away from physical engagements in the regular season is so concerning. You look at Barkov and Bennett Tkachuk just physically impose their will it creates opportunities while also protecting defensively.

This core has to prove they aren't regular season merchants.

 

[bernmeister]

continued beyond stupid Rempe hate...

Should Rangers use Rempe as part of a trade piece, or wait it out?

The New York Rangers are in a predicament. They have finally found a solid trio to use on the fourth line, which has been lacking for several seasons. Of those

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