Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[Vitto79]

At least Mancini gets to play

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856823129345015852

Unbelievably stupid. He should be playing in the NHL

He’s sitting so let him play in the AHL

Not like he won’t get called up again

 

[Clark Kellogg]

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

 

[EdJovanovski]

Miller is kind of a bonehead sometimes but he just has so many of those tools that our team sorely lacks. If you get rid of him it makes our already immobile blueline even more immobile.

 

[Boris Zubov]

And a Lord Of The Flies group beatdown. He needs one.

A Code Red

 

[Lion Hound]

Top 2 Centers for each respective club across the league. Where do the Rangers rank in this category alone? Somewhere around 10-15 or lower? Maybe Higher?

Rangers : Trocheck, Zibanejad


In No particular order...
Oilers : McDavid, Draisaitl
Leafs : Matthews, Tavares
Canucks : Miller, Pettersson
Devs : Hischier, Hughes
Pens : Crosby, Malkin
Isles : Horvat, Barzal
Avs : MacKinnon, Mittelstadt
Knights : Eichel, Hertl
Sabres : Thompson, Cozens
Bruins : Zacha, Lindholm
Boltz : Point, Cirelli
Flames : Kadri, Backlund
Canes : Aho, Kotkaniemi
Hawks : Bedard, Foligno
Stars : Hintz, Duchene
Wings : Larkin, Compher
Panthers : Barkov, Boqvist
Kings : Kopitar, Byfield
Wild : Rossi, Eriksson EK
Habs : Suzuki, Evans
Preds : O'Reilly, Scissons
Sens : Norris, Stutzle
Flyers : Couturier, Laughton
Kracken : Berniers, Stevenson
Sharks : Celebrini, Granlund
Blues : Buchnevich, Schenn
Hockey Club : Bjugstad, Cooley
Caps : Strome, Dubois
Jets : Scheifele, Namestnikov
Jackets : Monahan, Fantilli
Ducks : Zegras, Carlsson

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Miller is kind of a bonehead sometimes but he just has so many of those tools that our team sorely lacks. If you get rid of him it makes our already immobile blueline even more immobile.

He’s been awful so far though. How is possible he was out there for every goal against yesterday? He can carry the puck through the neutral zone well, that’s about it.

 

[CTTribe73]

If you consider upside/ceiling as part of the analysis I'd say no better than 22-23

 

[ReddestRum]

I think this is the first time Lavi is really pissing me off.

He had something that worked with the def pairs at the beginning of the season. Lindgren got rushed back into the lineup and we just had to accommodate him. Miller / Fox, Schneider / Trouba had great numbers. Even Trouba was putting points on the board. I don't understand why we can't drop Lindgren back with Jones or Mancini. The Rangers continue to reinvent the wheel in the most asinine ways. Do they just ignore the numbers?

 

[effen]

That Mika interview is heartbreaking. This guy really cares (you don't do a 7 minute interrogation without wanting to atone), is totally lost, and his everything suggests his instincts have failed him.

I remember Lindros just fell off a cliff when the concussions robbed his hand-eye coordination and he couldn't do anything fine with the puck anymore. I gotta wonder if it's the same thing, his brain is saying do one thing and his body's not following through.

He also looks... frail.

I would not be surprised if he retired in a couple years.

 

[ReddestRum]

That Mika interview is heartbreaking. This guy really cares (you don't do a 7 minute interrogation without wanting to atone), is totally lost, and his everything suggests his instincts have failed him.

I remember Lindros just fell off a cliff when the concussions robbed his hand-eye coordination and he couldn't do anything fine with the puck anymore. I gotta wonder if it's the same thing, his brain is saying do one thing and his body's not following through.

He also looks... frail.

I would not be surprised if he retired in a couple years.

Someone needs to just tell Mika to stop passing. Period. Shoot the puck if it's on your stick and you have a clear shot to the net. He also needs to be told on the PP, he can one-time it, but not blast it. He missed a gaping net last night because he's trying to blast it through the net and flubs on it. Meanwhile, guys like Ovi barely get the stick over their heads and can pot that shot on the PP with finesse, rather than power.

 

[EdJovanovski]

He’s been awful so far though. How is possible he was out there for every goal against yesterday? He can carry the puck through the neutral zone well, that’s about it.

Yea I don't disagree. It's just that carrying the puck through the neutral zone may literally be our biggest weakness. Like if I were GM, yea sure I'd trade Miller. I'd bet other GM's around the league would probably over value him based off being a young guy with awesome tools. But I'd be doing that knowing what kind of player I want to replace him with. As a fan however, knowing the type of players the Rangers tend to go after, I'm less than enthused by the prospect of trading away one of our best skaters

 

[ReddestRum]

Yea I don't disagree. It's just that carrying the puck through the neutral zone may literally be our biggest weakness. Like if I were GM, yea sure I'd trade Miller. I'd bet other GM's around the league would probably over value him based off being a young guy with awesome tools. But I'd be doing that knowing what kind of player I want to replace him with. As a fan however, knowing the type of players the Rangers tend to go after, I'm less than enthused by the prospect of trading away one of our best skaters

Trading Miller doesn't fix our defense. Fixing the system fixes our defense. The entirety of our D-core in the D-zone, despite the lines, have trouble clearing the zone, skating it out of the zone, and will just dump it to the neutral zone for an immediate turnover or up the boards for another turnover.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Top 2 Centers for each respective club across the league. Where do the Rangers rank in this category alone? Somewhere around 10-15 or lower? Maybe Higher?

Rangers : Trocheck, Zibanejad


In No particular order...
Oilers : McDavid, Draisaitl
Leafs : Matthews, Tavares
Canucks : Miller, Pettersson
Devs : Hischier, Hughes
Pens : Crosby, Malkin
Isles : Horvat, Barzal
Avs : MacKinnon, Mittelstadt
Knights : Eichel, Hertl
Sabres : Thompson, Cozens
Bruins : Zacha, Lindholm
Boltz : Point, Cirelli
Flames : Kadri, Backlund
Canes : Aho, Kotkaniemi
Hawks : Bedard, Foligno
Stars : Hintz, Duchene
Wings : Larkin, Compher
Panthers : Barkov, Boqvist
Kings : Kopitar, Byfield
Wild : Rossi, Eriksson EK
Habs : Suzuki, Evans
Preds : O'Reilly, Scissons
Sens : Norris, Stutzle
Flyers : Couturier, Laughton
Kracken : Berniers, Stevenson
Sharks : Celebrini, Granlund
Blues : Buchnevich, Schenn
Hockey Club : Bjugstad, Cooley
Caps : Strome, Dubois
Jets : Scheifele, Namestnikov
Jackets : Monahan, Fantilli
Ducks : Zegras, Carlsson

Ours is absolutely bottom 10, maybe worse.

 

[CLW]

That Mika interview is heartbreaking. This guy really cares (you don't do a 7 minute interrogation without wanting to atone), is totally lost, and his everything suggests his instincts have failed him.

I remember Lindros just fell off a cliff when the concussions robbed his hand-eye coordination and he couldn't do anything fine with the puck anymore. I gotta wonder if it's the same thing, his brain is saying do one thing and his body's not following through.

He also looks... frail.

I would not be surprised if he retired in a couple years.

Mika isn't the only player totally lost under this bonehead coach.

Also, Mika does look frail. This is a guy who was listed as 230 pounds at one stage if memory serves. Sure he was never that but he's clearly been diminishing physically over the last few seasons.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

"I just felt off" - Mika at the circle
This is somewhat concerning, is he suffering from a concussion again?

Regarding Miller, not trading him, it's our system, not one dman succeeds in it.

 

[CLW]

Trading Miller doesn't fix our defense. Fixing the system fixes our defense. The entirety of our D-core in the D-zone, despite the lines, have trouble clearing the zone, skating it out of the zone, and will just dump it to the neutral zone for an immediate turnover or up the boards for another turnover.

Florida players LOVED coach Q because he, whatever else you think of him, fixed this issue for them. He thought them how to transition out of their own zone with speed and cohesion.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Nvmd delete pls

 

[effen]

"I just felt off" - Mika at the circle
This is somewhat concerning, is he suffering from a concussion again?

Regarding Miller, not trading him, it's our system, not one dman succeeds in it.

I thought that was in regards to him shitting himself and going off the ice. Maybe I listened poorly.

 

[Jim Ramsay]

Some of this talk gets way overblown. Im very down on Mika as we all are, but a combo of Zib/Tro/ Fil down the middle is pretty darn good... I really wish Lav would have left the lines alone at the start of the season. I thought the Bread and Fil lines were amazing... either Mika and Kreider figure it out or they just play less


The defense is the biggest issue

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I think we REALLY overestimate how fragile the lockerroom is. They're adults and professionals they will survive.

You said the room was fine dealing with a contract negotiation, all I said it’s not the same thing as healthy scratching a captain.

I think that’s pretty obvious.

What I didn’t say was how the room would melt down if he was. The point of my original post has been twisted.

All I am saying is Mika should be held accountable for his shitty play, but sitting him all together manufactures an unnecessary distraction for the team.

 

[RangersFan1994]

That Mika interview is heartbreaking. This guy really cares (you don't do a 7 minute interrogation without wanting to atone), is totally lost, and his everything suggests his instincts have failed him.

I remember Lindros just fell off a cliff when the concussions robbed his hand-eye coordination and he couldn't do anything fine with the puck anymore. I gotta wonder if it's the same thing, his brain is saying do one thing and his body's not following through.

He also looks... frail.

I would not be surprised if he retired in a couple years.

He is done. Certain players just fall out of nowhere. He seems like that what has happened with Mika sadly.

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

He’s been awful so far though. How is possible he was out there for every goal against yesterday? He can carry the puck through the neutral zone well, that’s about it.

He was continually put in bad position by his defense partner & forwards, who left him to defend 2-on-1s.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Miller is kind of a bonehead sometimes but he just has so many of those tools that our team sorely lacks. If you get rid of him it makes our already immobile blueline even more immobile.

It is not like his skating and mobility is helping him defensively. Always looks lost on the defensive size of the puck. Skating and mobility is nice but if you don’t use it to your advantage, what good is it?

 

[Takeahnase]

Miller is kind of a bonehead sometimes but he just has so many of those tools that our team sorely lacks. If you get rid of him it makes our already immobile blueline even more immobile.

That’s the the thing whhich is so incredibly frustrating with Miller, though. He’s a collection of attributes (tools), but rarely are they put into great effect. It’s nice to have great tools but if they sit in the garage all the time they are useless.