Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[NYR Viper]

Tommy Novak has 4 points in 19 games so far this season for Nashville. He would have been a nice addition had he made it to UFA. 27 years old. $3.5m per season for this year and 2 more after this one.

Nashville is going to look to make a move if they continue to spiral. There's too much talent there to let this just ride out.

Alexandre Carrier has struggled as well. RD. 28 years old. 2 more years after this one, $3.75m per season. Both teams need a shake up.

Trouba ($8m) + Smith ($1.875m - 50% Retained)) for Novak ($3.5m) + Carrier ($3.75m) + Lauzon ($2m)

$9.875m for $9.25m

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

kudos for this^
to those saying otherwise let's be fair/honest
playing w/bad back/related issues
c'mon

Even more reason to trade him. If his calling card speed is diminishing and his back is affecting his net front presence, he's an even more ineffective player. The back problems will only multiply at his age and with his play style. Love his Rangers career but father time comes for everyone.

Who?

Quentin Byfield

 

[DanielBrassard]

Trouba on waivers. He clears. The Rangers send him to the AHL. Trouba refuses to report. The Rangers suspend him. The contract is breached. Contract is terminated and Trouba becomes a free agent. His agent will scream and cry. They can't really do anything.

If the Rangers tried to trade Trouba and had to retain 25% or 50%, would could they realistically acquire in the exchange? Do the Rangers take back a contract? That doesn't help. Can they get 2nd round pick with 25% or 50% retention? Drury was reportedly willing to retain 25% in the summer.

Maybe waiving him is the best option and Trouba doesn't report. The Rangers get the money off of their books. He has checked out. Maybe he would be more "comfortable" getting traded at the deadline instead of in the summer. It's only 40 days left in the season and whatever happens in the playoffs. Easier to trade him in the summer. We have a long way until July.

I heard Arthur Staple on the morning show with Lazarus and Colby Cohen on YouTube. Arthur reported the Rangers offered Mika to Vancouver for JT Miller. VAN said no. Obviously.

Lmao the Rangers actually offered Zibanejad for Miller? Might as well go all the way and add to Zibanejad to make it happen.

Zibanejad+Miller+ for Miller+whatever LD Vancouver wants to trade back not named Hughes.

 

[haohmaru]

I heard Arthur Staple on the morning show with Lazarus and Colby Cohen on YouTube. Arthur reported the Rangers offered Mika to Vancouver for JT Miller. VAN said no. Obviously.

Meh. How can Mika be offered anywhere with a full NMC? Sounds like crap.

 

[bernmeister]

Trouba on waivers. He clears. The Rangers send him to the AHL. Trouba refuses to report. The Rangers suspend him. The contract is breached. Contract is terminated and Trouba becomes a free agent. His agent will scream and cry. They can't really do anything.

If the Rangers tried to trade Trouba and had to retain 25% or 50%, would could they realistically acquire in the exchange? Do the Rangers take back a contract? That doesn't help. Can they get 2nd round pick with 25% or 50% retention? Drury was reportedly willing to retain 25% in the summer.

Maybe waiving him is the best option and Trouba doesn't report. The Rangers get the money off of their books. He has checked out. Maybe he would be more "comfortable" getting traded at the deadline instead of in the summer. It's only 40 days left in the season and whatever happens in the playoffs. Easier to trade him in the summer. We have a long way until July.

I heard Arthur Staple on the morning show with Lazarus and Colby Cohen on YouTube. Arthur reported the Rangers offered Mika to Vancouver for JT Miller. VAN said no. Obviously.

to be expected
Rs have to add signif to move Zib
of course, they are trying to swindle
getting called out for it

 

[NYR Viper]

I could get behind a Byfield for Miller basis for a deal. LA could use a young d-man and they have a glut of forwards. Byfield would fill a pretty large need

 

[McRanger92]

Trouba on waivers. He clears. The Rangers send him to the AHL. Trouba refuses to report. The Rangers suspend him. The contract is breached. Contract is terminated and Trouba becomes a free agent. His agent will scream and cry. They can't really do anything.

If the Rangers tried to trade Trouba and had to retain 25% or 50%, would could they realistically acquire in the exchange? Do the Rangers take back a contract? That doesn't help. Can they get 2nd round pick with 25% or 50% retention? Drury was reportedly willing to retain 25% in the summer.

Maybe waiving him is the best option and Trouba doesn't report. The Rangers get the money off of their books. He has checked out. Maybe he would be more "comfortable" getting traded at the deadline instead of in the summer. It's only 40 days left in the season and whatever happens in the playoffs. Easier to trade him in the summer. We have a long way until July.

I heard Arthur Staple on the morning show with Lazarus and Colby Cohen on YouTube. Arthur reported the Rangers offered Mika to Vancouver for JT Miller. VAN said no. Obviously.

Trouba on waivers is a good starting point. Ruhwedel is an upgrade on him in his current state. Then you work to trade Lindgren and Smith for whatever you can get. Then you move on to dealing with Kreider and Panarin (and I guess Mika). Miller and Kakko are definitely in play in trades as well. If Drury/Laviolette can't handle this course of action, bring in management that can hold players accountable.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Meh. How can Mika be offered anywhere with a full NMC? Sounds like crap.

Maybe Mika is more willing to waive than we think

 

[LOFIN]

Meh. How can Mika be offered anywhere with a full NMC? Sounds like crap.

GMs work on trades, and ask players to waive after. Not the other way around.

Maybe Mika is more willing to waive than we think

Or, it never even got to that point because Vancouver rejected it outright.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

There are four sure personnel issues throughout this lineup and organization, but there is a cancer growing here again. The country club is in effect again and it's been developing for a few years under the surface. That doesn't change by just getting "better players," there is a type of player and personality that is needed to help combat the country club and other challenges that historically come with nyr teams. You can bring in better or more talented players, but there are plenty of those that we'll fall into the laziness/entitlement trap that exists here right now. Management needs to be strategic about how they reshape this roster over the next 18 months bc they will not only be reshaping the roster but they will be reshaping the culture around the team and organization.

This is primarily the same group that won 6 elimination games in 2 years and has made 2 ECF runs in 3 years. You don’t do that by being lazy

Certain guys got worse and improvements that should have happened years ago still haven’t happened. That’s 90+% of what is wrong here. Let’s not get it twisted, the drama and all the other shit certainly exists and has made a bad situation worse, but it’s just fuel on the fire, not the match that started the damn thing.

On RL: I don’t care how hard he works, he’s completely incompetent and he makes everyone’s job harder. Replacing (or getting someone to push him down in the rotation) should have happened after 2022. It’s comical that he’s in the rotation for a supposed contender, let alone on the top pair. If you’re worried about culture and all that stuff, you should have a problem with a guy playing this high in the lineup strictly because he has a friendship with Adam Fox.


Replacing him is such an easy move and an easy win. It makes way more sense than trading Smith and Kakko or whatever they’ll probably end up doing over the next few days. I think we’re in agreement that most of the more significant stuff will have to wait but at the very least it would make the team more watchable and pretty much better immediately by virtue of not having an awful player eating big minutes.

 

[McRanger92]

Maybe Mika is more willing to waive than we think

GM publicly tells the players they want to make changes if the team's play doesnt improve. Team's play has been worse since getting called out. Is it possible no one wants to be here? We could be so lucky.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Meh. How can Mika be offered anywhere with a full NMC? Sounds like crap.

Mika might have given a few teams he’s willing to go to.
I could see Vancouver being one.
Petterson as a fellow Swede probably helps

 

[bernmeister]

Even more reason to trade him. If his calling card speed is diminishing and his back is affecting his net front presence, he's an even more ineffective player. The back problems will only multiply at his age and with his play style. Love his Rangers career but father time comes for everyone.


Quentin Byfield

the back issue is real, but reasonable to think it prob can be managed
at some pt down the line it may be too much + beyond managing, but not now

Lmao the Rangers actually offered Zibanejad for Miller? Might as well go all the way and add to Zibanejad to make it happen.

Zibanejad+Miller+ for Miller+whatever LD Vancouver wants to trade back not named Hughes.

Zib retained + Fox + pick
for
JTM, Raty, Juulsen, Forbort + pick

that actually gets it done and is better on multiple levels

 

[LOFIN]

Mika might have given a few teams he’s willing to go to.
I could see Vancouver being one.
Petterson as a fellow Swede probably helps

Or Allvin and the Sedins in the management

 

[DanielBrassard]

GMs work on trades, and ask players to waive after. Not the other way around.


Or, it never even got to that point because Vancouver rejected it outright.

Maybe, I think Drury might have an inkling though on whether or not a player would be willing to go somewhere before making an offer like that.

 

[bernmeister]

I could get behind a Byfield for Miller basis for a deal. LA could use a young d-man and they have a glut of forwards. Byfield would fill a pretty large need

yeah, but LA won't go for a good return and KAM, be honest is not enuf
retained Shesty extended + Nemec [acquired for Panarin] + KAM
for
Byfield + picks = too much to turn down

 

[archanfelnsx]

Maybe Mika is more willing to waive than we think

I’d waive to move to Vancouver. A good team and an amazing city especially with a young family. I’m not against packaging Mika and our Miller for their Miller and a guy like Brannstrom or Deharnais.

 

[TGWL]

I don't think Schneider is actually that bad at defending. He has lapses, but like, who cares? That's what you pay a goalie a salary for. I think those numbers reflect a team where nobody knows what to do in their own zone except for Fox, who he never plays with.

He doesn't get hemmed like Lindgren, and he doesn't produce 3-on-1's on a conveyor belt like Trouba and Miller.

Offensive zone keep-ins are important. You absolutely need them from your defensemen and it requires aggression in this day and age, but you also can't f*** too many of them up. Miller and Trouba are a near-guarantee to f*** up the pinch and have it go the other way with numbers, and Lindgren just won't try and will keep backing up until the other team takes it all the way down and either shoots or dumps it in to establish possession (and beat him there too!)

Schnieder is good at them.

Schneider does this thing where when he's chasing the puck, he keeps moving and doesn't give up the foot race advantage he had. It's a weird concept not to glide into the last 10 feet because you're scared to take a hit into the boards, so you play the let's get tangled together and roll the 50-50 on who gets the puck, game. So many of our players just glide into the puck area.

Imagine a world where you have 5-6 strides on a guy and you get to the puck first tp make a play, or you shift one way and go the one way because you can actually skate.

It's not all on them though because when they do get the puck, often our forwards are so far down for a stretch pass that it off-sets any transition.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

LA are not giving up on Byfield so soon and certainly not for K'Andre lol

 

[haohmaru]

Mika might have given a few teams he’s willing to go to.
I could see Vancouver being one.
Petterson as a fellow Swede probably helps

That would mean he would’ve said “yes” to waiving and one would think that would be news.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Im a Kakko guy and didnt want him moved (still dont), but if he was the piece stopping the Guentzal deal from happening Chris shouldve pulled the trigger because they wound up sitting him in the playoffs again anyway.

Last season was the time to push the chips into the middle of the table and instead Drury went bargain shopping for Jack Roslovic. Probably because he messed with the chemistry too much the year prior moving mountains to bring in Kane.

Throw in the horrendous Buch deal. Some bad signings (Nemeth, Goodrow).

Its obvious Drury hasnt had the correct foresight for this club, especially when it really matters. Its been more bad than good and if you ask me he should be the one out the door before major moves and extensions are made and the coach is replaced.

Its a very critical time right now

 

[archanfelnsx]

I’d fire Chris Drury and Phil Housley and replace them with Jarmo Kekalainen and Joel Quennville respectively. The players have probably lost their trust with Drury with what has transpired from the offseason until now. Changes need to start at the top; give the players a month to respond. If nothing changes, then it’s time to start seeing some insane discounts on Rangers player jerseys if you know what I mean.

 

[haohmaru]

GMs work on trades, and ask players to waive after. Not the other way around.

I would think it’s a little less simplistic than that. Otherwise, you’re wasting a whole lot of time for absolutely nothing.

 

[archanfelnsx]

Im a Kakko guy and didnt want him moved, but if he was the piece stopping the Guentzal deal from happening Chris shouldve pulled the trigger because they wound up sitting him in the playoffs again anyway.

Last season was the time to push the chips into the middle of the table and instead Drury went bargain shopping with Roslovic. Probably because he messed with the chemistry too much the year prior moving mountains to bring in Kane.

Throw in the horrendous Buch deal. Some bad signings (Nemeth, Goodrow).

Its obvious Drury hasnt had the correct foresight for this club. Its been more bad than good and if you ask me he should be the one out the door before major moves are made and the coach is replaced

Yup, last season was the time to go all in. The playoffs are tough and you need to give your team the best chance to succeed and Jack Roslovic is not THAT guy. This team needs a Tkachuk or Sam Bennett type of player in their Top 6. They need a player who is tough and who has skill.

I don’t think Kakko was the holdup in a Guentzel deal; I think Pittsburgh probably wanted Perrault and the Rangers dangled Othmann instead. I don’t think the Penguins were interested in Kakko.

 

[McRanger92]

I’d fire Chris Drury and Phil Housley and replace them with Jarmo Kekalainen and Joel Quennville respectively. The players have probably lost their trust with Drury with what has transpired from the offseason until now. Changes need to start at the top; give the players a month to respond. If nothing changes, then it’s time to start seeing some insane discounts on Rangers player jerseys if you know what I mean.

You need to change some players before you fire another Gm and coach.