Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XIII: Have no fear, the TDL is near (Mod Post page 233, #5809 - READ IT)

[JimmyG89]

If Staal isn't back by the time Holden is gone, Smith will be back here playing.

 

[Avery16]

Damn it

 

[TheTakedown]

I don't think we have a top 4 dman anywhere in our system, so I agree that it needs to be a focus.

Sean Day is probably the closest projection (mostly because of his skating) but he's at least 2 years away

 

[TheTakedown]

Toronto would have to give me liljegren a first (next year if they prefer) and one of kapanen Brown or at worst josh leivo

For Mcdonagh.

I like this package. kapenen is a good player now and he's only going to get better. Leivo is worthless right now, the salary retention on McDonagh should be enough for him to be thrown in. Liljegren and a 1st is a great building block. That first will be about pick #20 most likely

 

[pld459666]

So once 30 other NHL coaches have passed on taking Smith, someone tell me how it’s still because AV is to blame for his current level of play.

Because contract plays no role in that

Not at all

 

[eco's bones]

And McDonagh likely will have most of the teams picking in the top 10 on his no-go list, I would think.

I wasn't aware of that until you pointed it out. I suspect he'd certainly take a number of them out.

Still I don't think the Rangers should rush a trade with him on deadline day. Reading on the main boards about us getting Calvin Foote as his replacement along with a couple late 1st rounders just doesn't do enough for me. Trading players is always about leveraging teams and we still have a whole another year to work with if we have to.

 

[Thirty One]

I think letting him play his natural side instead of forcing him to play the right side will elevate his game.

He has played more than 300 minutes here with RHD, so we have seen him on the left side.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

On Smith, the NHL still has that 1/2 "Old Boys" 1/2 Samurai Honor Code in a lot of ways so it clearly got out that he showed up to camp out of shape. Teams wouldn't want that effort and it also means he's not coming back up the rest of the year as a way of paying his dues.

Getting a top 4 D. If the Rangers and Tampa are going to dance, that's why I'm insistent on getting Cal Foote back. Skjei will be the veteran, they'll see what they have out of the Day/Pionk/Graves/Sjalin/Reunanen (if one of those guys makes it, awesome) and get either Woo or K'Andre Miller with one of the late firsts and the Defense in 1-2 years could be Skjei/Shatty/Foote/Woo or KA Miller/one of the Hartford guys or prospects now/ADA with the chance to get an impact UFA.

Big fan of Woo. He's pretty much Skjei 2.0

 

[pld459666]

Zuccs to the Blues should get you Kostin and a 1st or you should not do that deal.

 

[Off Sides]

He has played more than 300 minutes here with RHD, so we have seen him on the left side.

Is there a site that gives ice time per side?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Zuccs to the Blues should get you Kostin and a 1st or you should not do that deal.

Id be happy with Kyrou and a 2nd.

 

[Kovalev27]

Have to trade Holden for assets and I fully expect smith to be back either later or next season. Especially if Mcdonagh is gone.

 

[RGY]

Trade Holden to the Blues for a 3rd rounder.

 

[Levitate]

Zuccs to the Blues should get you Kostin and a 1st or you should not do that deal.

maybe I'm wrong but Zucc has been playing like crap lately and that's probably not helping his trade value

 

[Thirty One]

Is there a site that gives ice time per side?

No, but Corsica gives time with partner, and I'm assuming whenever he played with a right-handed shot, he's on the left.

 

[Off Sides]

No, but Corsica gives time with partner, and I'm assuming whenever he played with a right-handed shot, he's on the left.

That site always give me a hard time, I kind of stopped checking it.

As I remember, not a given accurately, wasn't that mostly with Smith on his right?

Not that I have a point other than I think Holden is better on LD.

 

[Mac n Gs]

That site always give me a hard time, I kind of stopped checking it.

As I remember, not a given accurately, wasn't that mostly with Smith on his right?

Not that I have a point other than I think Holden is better on LD.

naturalstattrick is another good resource and it doesn’t taken 15 attempts at reloading the page for the data to appear

 

[Crease]

Any tantalizing trade rumors yet?

 

[Thirty One]

That site always give me a hard time, I kind of stopped checking it.

As I remember, not a given accurately, wasn't that mostly with Smith on his right?

Not that I have a point other than I think Holden is better on LD.

See, in my memory (not a great resource, either), it was Smith-Holden when they played together, so I didn't count that. The 300+ minutes is the minutes he's played with Girardi, Klein, Kampfer, Shattenkirk, Clendening, McIlrath.

 

[Thirty One]

Any tantalizing trade rumors yet?

Depends on your minimum standard of credibility of the source.

 

[Lion Hound]

Seems pretty quiet only one day after the akward presser.

 

[Kovalev27]

maybe I'm wrong but Zucc has been playing like crap lately and that's probably not helping his trade value

Agreed. I don’t expect much a return for him

 

[RangerBoy]

The Rangers traded a 2nd and 3rd for Smith. If you look at the rental market for D. Holden is one of the top D available. Hold out for 2 picks. He play both left and right.

 

[Thirty One]

The Rangers traded a 2nd and 3rd for Smith. If you look at the rental market for D. Holden is one of the top D available. Hold out for 2 picks. He play both left and right.

The movement is catching on.

 

[Edge]

Agreed. I don’t expect much a return for him

I think they can get at least a first.