Roster Building Thread - Part XII

Kocur Dill

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How about swapping CK and Bread.

Let Bread and Mika play pond hockey and CK/Tro/Laf play N/S crash and cycle hockey.

Two different looks that cause match up problems for some teams.

Play what works and make ice time adjustments based on opponent reactions.
 

bernmeister

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It’s like Art Laffer writing Nixon an economic theory on a napkin at dinner except we get it from Bern 24/7
thanks except don't compare me to screwball Art Laffer w/his discredited trickle down shit that doesn't work
when I say I may have reinvented the wheel on restructuring the international monetary system
given time I can prove my theory checks out, dots connect etc

and unlike Nixon, I am not a fraudster
or some SOB who wants to use Constitution for toilet paper
burn in hell tricky dick and go eff yourself after you kiss my patriotic USA lovin ass

get to know me peeps
buy some of my IP
 

Kocur Dill

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We're outscoring the opposition 9-3 so far at 5v5 through two games and already are talking about blowing up all the line combos?

It's been a conversation for awhile tbh.

Two games, great...this has been a multiple season issue with the same players. We've seen streeks before.

The 5v5 argument has merit because that's been an issue so ill give you that there.

Other then that, if clauses prevent trades of players that don't work, then shuffling is the only option, no?
 

SA16

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It's been a conversation for awhile tbh.

Two games, great...this has been a multiple season issue with the same players. We've seen streeks before.

The 5v5 argument has merit because that's been an issue so ill give you that there.

Other then that, if clauses prevent trades of players that don't work, then shuffling is the only option, no?

No shuffling should occur after two games regardless of how good or bad the two games were
 

Shesterkybomb

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Doesnt have to be career ending. Say he injuries his hip or knee late season and doesnt come back. It could be career altering but u dont know.

How can u justify that contract for 8 years?

Just saying its not cut and dry.

At this point the best course is to sign laf and let the season play out. No point in bidding against yourself.

Plus if jones, miller and kakko have big years it might change the dynamic.

Alot of factors in play. I would let the year play out if i were drury. Igors price cant go much higher, but things could happen over the course of the year that can make u think “ is igor really worth it?” Is losing players better to keep igor?

They should be in no rush. Especially since igoers list of suitors is probably almost non existent after us.
You let the year play out and all of a sudden he signs with the canadiens, no thanks

Also, not directed at you but I'd hate to mess with the 3rd line but Mika needs to be demoted and Chytil elevated to light some sort of fire under Zibs
 

NYR Viper

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Money puck has our third line with a 70% xgf.

It’s also chytil and Kakko mostly, but cuylle does some heavy work on the forecheck.

It works because the line has players in a good role. Kakko can make plays with the puck, Chytil likes to carry the puck, both Kakko and Cuylle can retrieve pucks
 

TheDirtyH

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Dont know why people keep bringing that up, then just ignore the playoffs?

90% of goalies dont play back to back games, do we need him playing against buffalo and the sharks of the league to wear him down?

Also last i checked he’s playing 60 min a game, while forwards are playing 20. Can we factor the salary like that too for minutes played per dollar?

Lastely, how many games does he miss whem the real season starts? You know, the playoffs? Where he also elevates his game to godlike mode and has the best numbers by any goalie in the last 4 post seasons?

He’s getting paid, by the Rangers. The sooner some posters come to terms with that better off everyone will be.
First of all, 20 mins at forward is very different than 20 mins at defense is very different than 20 mins at goalie.

In no way am I suggesting Igor should be playing more games than he does; the point is that goalies do not play a workhorse workload anymore, not even close and that is a HUGE part of the reality of goalie contracts. Helly just signed for 8 and he's the closest thing to a true #1 with respect to games played, but somehow Igor seems to believe that he deserves a near 50% raise off that guy?

Igor has played great in the playoffs, that's true. How much of that is due to the fact that he gets platooned by a good team and good backups so that he can come into the playoffs rested and ready? I would say, comparing him to helly or saros or even vasi, quite a lot.

Where did I say he is or isn't getting the contract he wants. The discussion is about whether or not he should. You don't want to talk about it? Don't go to the message boards...
 

The Crypto Guy

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First of all, 20 mins at forward is very different than 20 mins at defense is very different than 20 mins at goalie.

In no way am I suggesting Igor should be playing more games than he does; the point is that goalies do not play a workhorse workload anymore, not even close and that is a HUGE part of the reality of goalie contracts. Helly just signed for 8 and he's the closest thing to a true #1 with respect to games played, but somehow Igor seems to believe that he deserves a near 50% raise off that guy?

Igor has played great in the playoffs, that's true. How much of that is due to the fact that he gets platooned by a good team and good backups so that he can come into the playoffs rested and ready? I would say, comparing him to helly or saros or even vasi, quite a lot.

Where did I say he is or isn't getting the contract he wants. The discussion is about whether or not he should. You don't want to talk about it? Don't go to the message boards...

I was talking about it, you just didn't like my opinion. Can't handle other people opinions? Dont go the the message boards...
 

leetch99

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I do not think Kreids should be going anywhere. He’s at 6.5m he could get us 40 goals again this year, and he’s unlikely to decline much during his contract. He’s a freak. Plus with the cap going up he’s worth his hit. At worst cut his 5v5 time and give younger guys more responsibility.
I could handle him as a 3rd line guy .....I'm not so sure though he could ! Some of these guys have been coddled forever . Even a shift every now and then here early in the season might give our current 3rd line some extra incentive and also push the old guys to get off their ass at 5 on 5 . Does Lavi have those kind of stones ?
 

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