Roster Building Thread - Part XII

[jerseyjinx94]

I must have missed the Crosby-led Penguins and the Bergeron-led Bruins have a better campaign than us, last season. Do you know where I can find that footage? After all, it’s a slam dunk to find money ball players growing on trees who win you championships. It’s easy-peasy.

Just sign up some more laser-focused Roslovics and Wennbergs and we’re all set.

This is not a real response to what I said. It’s not unreasonable to say, based on how the negotiations are being reported, that Igor’s primary focus is maxing his wealth and his secondary focus is on winning a cup. If his primary focus was winning, he would sacrifice a little to build a better team. There are plenty of examples of team-friendly deals being signed around the league that still compensate the player fairly.

 

[MrAlmost]

Most teams have 2 or 3 (3 if your toronto) of those big contracts on their team. That seems to work, as long as they are all skaters. (Debateable for 3, but the cap is going up this decade i hear)

However, I think you can only have 1 of those types of contracts if you have it be a goalie. So, what i mean is that if they sign him, they have to get rid of trouba and panarin. Sign Laf and Igor and then not go huge on any other contracts no matter who it is.

Eh, I don't know. I'm not a capconomist.

 

[n8]

Crazy Igor turned down $88M
I'm just imagining him getting slightly more but he has to play somewhere like Calgary + paying that Canadian tax. Maybe Seattle with no state tax? Looking at other no-tax states... Nashville, Dallas, Tampa, Florida all have their goalie situations well in place. Vegas doesn't have cap but they've pulled off cap gymnastics before. Maybe Vegas will do it again and fit Igor under cap.

 

[NYR Viper]

There is not a single goalie I would pay $11m for. $9m is my max for that position. Take it or leave it.

If he wants $11m+ that's fine, go play somewhere else.

 

[Hire Sather]

There is not a single goalie I would pay $11m for. $9m is my max for that position. Take it or leave it.

If he wants $11m+ that's fine, go play somewhere else.

Unfortunately this franchise is not going to allow him to leave.

 

[Coffee]

There is not a single goalie I would pay $11m for. $9m is my max for that position. Take it or leave it.

If he wants $11m+ that's fine, go play somewhere else.

Trade him for Demko and Boeser and a pick

 

[Mike in Houston]

I wish I was in a position to turn down $88M.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Yikes, if Igor turned down 88/8, then what on earth does he want?

At this point, I'd almost contemplate seeing what's out there to trade him.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

People should be praying to the lord above that the reports of him wanting a shorter term deal are false.

If he really wants a shorter deal, the AAV is gonna be even higher than 12 million

 

[mas0764]

2+2 doesn’t equal 3. It equals 4. But so does 1+3, 1.5+2.5, etc.

I doubt K’Andre Miller is crying at night with the thought that Igor might make some scrilla, is he an avowed Stalinist or something? The only Leon he knows of is Draisaitl not Trotsky. He understands how the business of hockey or life works.

Didn’t say he’s crying but again it’s a zero sum game which means more for one is less for another and they know it.

It’s overly simplistic to say “the players are behind Shesterkin and hope he gets every penny he can.” Assuredly that is not the only thought going through their heads just like with us.

Thats what they say in interviews. It’s a lie.

 

[GAGLine]

some people are taking it out on Igor.

The ire should be directed at mgmt who don't know how to build 21st century winner

Did they know how to build a 20th century winner?

 

[Synergy27]

Has anyone looked into next summer’s UFA situation and figured out who could potentially be willing/able to give Igor more than this? Does he even have other options?

 

[SA16]

Why are we even considering paying Igor this much money before we find out out if he's actually any good without Allaire?

 

[Matt Rentfree]

I wish I was in a position to turn down #88M.

I wish I was in a position to turn down $88K

 

[Daves a mess]

Put the entire Ranger franchise and it's fan base in a mini skirt.

Igor is behind you and has his right hand between your shoulder blades and it pushing hard.

More after 10 pm.

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

Igor let in soft goals during the playoffs. Hes not the best goalie in the league, hes a contender but far from bullet proof. 11 mil/yr is more than his fair value. Look how far the Oilers got w a goalie that wasnt even that good. This might be a blessing in disguise def dont up the offer. The Rangers need cap space and this will hand cuff the team (if they go higher).

The Oilers got Draisaitl and McDavid and the west sucks ass.

 

[Levitate]

People should be praying to the lord above that the reports of him wanting a shorter term deal are false.

If he really wants a shorter deal, the AAV is gonna be even higher than 12 million

I don't think you sign him then. Call his bluff. Who's gonna give him that in free agency? No team in this league is gonna jump on giving him 12-13 mill for a couple of years. Every single team wants to sign guys long term to lock in the contract value as the cap rises as well as get that certainty that you don't have to go through this all again in a few years.

Part of me is fine with Igor trying to chase down all the money he can but a bigger part of me says you don't go down that path of paying him whatever he wants ESPECIALLY if it's a shorter term deal

 

[IDvsEGO]

I don't think you sign him then. Call his bluff. Who's gonna give him that in free agency? No team in this league is gonna jump on giving him 12-13 mill for a couple of years.

I could see the Blackhawks managing to pay him. Trust that the cap will jump and they’ve got enough youth to really push next year while bedard is still cheap.

 

[Levitate]

I could see the Blackhawks managing to pay him. Trust that the cap will jump and they’ve got enough youth to really push next year while bedard is still cheap.

not a chance in hell. they could afford him but they aren't close to being a contender

 

[IDvsEGO]

not a chance in hell. they could afford him but they aren't close to being a contender

surprisingly I dont think they're that far out. A healthy bedard, a legit goalie. I think they've drafted fairly well, and they've got a ton of young talent.

I think you give them shesty and this year is where they barely miss the playoffs
and next year they're ready for a run.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Why am I not concerned? Because it's typical contract negotiations. They will get it done, and it won't be much more than 11 million per year.

We're concerned for the opposite reason you aren't. Most of us don't want it to get done at Igor's price. I'm out if it's a cent over 9.5. I'd rather let him walk.

Look at Vegas and Colorado.

And St Louis & Pitt before them. Hell, Corey Crawford wasn't exactly an all time goalie either.

Weekes says he already rejected the highest contract for a goalie in franchise history.

We're stupid for offering it.

Franchise will never learn

That would be LEAGUE history.

 

[Guyute]

Why are we even considering paying Igor this much money before we find out out if he's actually any good without Allaire?

He wasn’t even very good last year before the all-star break.

 

[TGWL]

This wouldn't be a problem is 3rd and 4th, and 3rd pair D players were still viewed as budget spending compared to your top 6 and top 4D, but everybody gets a bigger piece now so I totally get it from a goalie's standpoint. The best goalies should be receiving comparable top deals. But I'm not here for it, and unless you're the islanders, most of the bottom 6 or 3rd pair don't receive 8 year deals. If you want such a high cap it can't be over 8 years for a goalie.

 

[TGWL]

Has anyone looked into next summer’s UFA situation and figured out who could potentially be willing/able to give Igor more than this? Does he even have other options?

It doesn't really work like that being that trades are likely to happen with a team signing Igor to 11.5+M

 

[Megustaelhockey]

Igor turned down a contract that (with proper financial planning) would have allowed his GRANDCHILDREN to float a bouncy castle across an ocean instead of ever having to work.

He rejected it. f*** him sideways.