We already had Shattenkirk. I guess fans forgot about him cause he was mostly injured and played like garbage
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Coincidence that all three grew up as Rangers fans?
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Shesterkybomb
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That is not a great take at all. When games get tough Marner is a non factor. Draisaitl played better in the playoffs on one leg than Marner.
Gardner McKay
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That isn't a hot take. That is just asinine.
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I am not sure why anybody would hype on the JVR signing. It really sounds like frustration that we didn't do a whole lot this offseason so fans/writers just want something to happen even if it makes no sense. I won't even touch on the other 2. Articles that talk in absolute like "For the Rangers, he would once again provide some decent bottom-six scoring" aren't worth spending much time talking about.
1- where is he playing?
2 - He scored 6 of his 11 goals on the powerplay. We scream the kids aren't getting a chance and they went want to make it even harder for them to see powerplay time.
I don't see Kreider/Zibanejad/JVR working when 2 of them are going to the same net front area. For a 3rd line role, we have too many options that will take a back seat for this, and it would be understandable if JVR was younger and faster.
1- where is he playing?
2 - He scored 6 of his 11 goals on the powerplay. We scream the kids aren't getting a chance and they went want to make it even harder for them to see powerplay time.
I don't see Kreider/Zibanejad/JVR working when 2 of them are going to the same net front area. For a 3rd line role, we have too many options that will take a back seat for this, and it would be understandable if JVR was younger and faster.
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Y'all are going to be eating these words once Marner leaves Toronto
eat what words. We’ve talked about his past performance. We have years of history of this.
If he reinvents himself that doesn’t mean he was good previously, just that he’s somehow improved.
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3 Players the New York Rangers Need to Sign to PTOs - The Hockey Writers New York Rangers Latest News, Analysis & More
With the 2024-25 season getting closer, here are three potential PTO options for the New York Rangers to consider bringing into training camp.
Coincidence that all three grew up as Rangers fans?
Doubt Shattenkirk. That didnt really work out to well last time.
I could see JVR. Another Prentiss guy. Seems close with Kreider from the videos.
I find it very, very, very hard to believe that JVR wouldn't be worth a PTO.
He was still pretty useful last year.
He was still pretty useful last year.
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I would take him, although I would prefer Pacioretty. JVR also has the added benefit of being someone who could play in front of the net on PP2.
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I'm not saying JVR is useless, but we have young players we want to integrate into the lineup and onto the PP. We have no need of him.
KirkAlbuquerque
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JVR would just come in and push Kakko out of the lineup.
And that's more an indictment on Kakko then it is on the org.
And that's more an indictment on Kakko then it is on the org.
Machinehead
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I wouldn't hurt to have some veteran competition for the final top 9 spot.
Just handing a spot to Kakko based on nothing is how we ended up with a horrendous trade and a hole in the lineup.
Just handing a spot to Kakko based on nothing is how we ended up with a horrendous trade and a hole in the lineup.
Harbour Dog
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Camp is from the 13th to the 19th. I believe the two games against the Flyers are supposed to be early in that span.
*rookie camp
Marner hasn't had his 1st 100p season yet. He's come close twice (94, 99). Drai is coming off his 5th 100+ season. Would be 6 if he didn't miss time in '21.
When the games matter most, Marner averages .87PPG versus Drais 1.45.
Marner's not better. He's not even equalish. Drais shits on Marner, 7 days a week.
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JVR is not what some posters remember him to be from awhile ago. IMO it’s not about Kakko but I do see a benefit in bringing him as competition for our prospects - in his current state he’s not a high hurdle to overcome. And if they can’t - it’s on them, plus a potential extra body in case of injuries if his form is actually better than what I expect.
SA16
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Marner has outscored Draisaitl at 5v5 on a rate basis for four consecutive years. He just doesn't get to boost his production by playing the full two minutes on the PP with McDavid. In terms of raw 5v5 points, he has 1 less point than Draisaitl over the last 3 years in 20 less games and almost 500 less minutes.
The playoff scoring is true but at the same time over the last 3 years, in the playoffs, Marner has the 6th best GF% of any forward (300+ mins) and Draisaitl the 35th. There's a huge difference in their defensive play.
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RIP, Jimmy.
KirkAlbuquerque
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Then hand it to a rookie.
Most teams do that. We don’t need to always bring in a bunch of has beens every year and watch them shit themselves all over the Ice half the season until mgmt finally cuts their losses in February
Look beyond the numbers. Drai pads his stats against cupcakes out west , Toronto always comes up against solid teams , also the Toronto debuff that all their players get in the playoffs. Also no McJesus for Marner to mooch off of.
Machinehead
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Draisaitl is overrated. He would be a star on his own, but he's a $14m a year player based on McDavid scoring off of his ass on the powerplay.
That being said, there are also very legitimate critiques of Marner.
That being said, there are also very legitimate critiques of Marner.
SA16
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Only if you're of the belief that past playoff results are predictive.
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I prefer to let the prospects compete with each other, and vets we already pay, instead of inserting another veteran into the mix. JVR doesn't bring anything we are missing.
JVR is a LW, he wouldn't be competition for RW Kakko (who without PP time outscored JVR in Kakko's last healthy season), he'd be blocking Othmann, Berard and possibly Edstrom if they decide he's better at wing.
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Well that's how most people do pretend to look at things. Not just talking about rating hockey players here.
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