Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[SA16]

That is a good point. Some guys are looked at as losers on Buffalo and then go on to win. I had no idea Reinhardt was so good before we played him. I knew he was pretty good but I did not know he was that good.

His zero even strength points in the series did that much to sway you?

 

[Machinehead]

And what @McRanger92 is saying is valid. I could see them going that way.

"Hey, we lost to the team that won the Cup, no big. We stopped scoring goals? Here's a top six guy. Let's break for lunch."

And it's the same team.

I hope they don't.

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

Make a deal for Ehlers, replace Gus with Jones, add Othmann, Berard and Enstrom, give Robertson a chance and let's go and stop with the man on man D. Evaluate at the half way point.

(Essentially) 5 rookies on a team with Cup aspirations?

 

[Tob]

Happy Trails Slats, never reached the pinnacle here with a Cup but he was pretty instrumental in rebuilding the organization's reputation post lockout/Dark Ages. He certainly had his misses, but the franchise was a model of consistency under him, whether some fans want to accept it or not.

My antenna is up given the news out of MSG over the last 8 hours. Knicks make a massive move sacrificing futures for a guy who is a perfect fit, thrilling their fans and players. Longtime Rangers Imperator retires the next morning. The runway seems pretty clear for Drury to make a splash, it's his show now. he needs to put his stamp on the team and be aggressive now, imo.

Oh yeah and the draft is in 2 days at the Dolan owned Sphere. Seems relevant.

 

[LOFIN]

That is a good point. Some guys are looked at as losers on Buffalo and then go on to win. I had no idea Reinhardt was so good before we played him. I knew he was pretty good but I did not know he was that good.

It was pretty telling, that Casey Mittelstadt talked after the trade to Colorado like "this was the hardest I have ever practised, all the guys set a standard here". And on the other hand, Byram, who was like a bottom pairing defenceman when he left Colorado, was constantly just directing other Buffalo players on the ice, telling them where to go and what to do.

That team has just had such a loser mentality, and they have lacked good coaching for so long that it's dysfunctional beyond belief. They don't know how to practice like NHL players should, and they don't know what to do on the ice. But I guess Granato was a nice guy for the players...

 

[SA16]

None of this is done in a vacuum. Lets for a moment think through a scenario where the RW spot on Zibanejad's line needs to be a lower salary and look at Skinner that way.

Say Drury trades Lindgren but then they love the idea of bringing in Skjei. Well there goes $7m or so. They also, IMO, likely prioritize bringing in another center in case Chytil misses time. Say they spend $2m on Blueger. $9m down. Then they trade Kakko for Farabee, that adds $2.6m in cap hit.

Now they're looking for a top-9 RW. Perhaps Skinner, at a modest cap hit, makes sense playing with Cuylle/Berard and Chytil on the 3rd line? Or with Zibanejad and Kreider in the top-6 with Farabee playing with Chytil and Berard/Cuylle?

I guess my point is, Skinner isn't likely to command a contract where he would an 'answer' to anything. But the people calling him a bad player are missing the point. He's easily a top-9 scoring winger with a proven pedigree. Lets not forget that in the past 3 seasons, he has 92 goals (33, 35 and 24) playing Buffalo. Hell just last year he had 82 points in 79 games.

Yes he has his warts and he isn't overly physical but if the team is looking to beef up their depth scoring on that 3rd line, is Skinner really that bad of an option, say, at $2.5m?

I'm not saying he can't do it but I think you should keep in mind that Skinner is not a RW and when the entire FA market is available I think it makes more sense to sign a guy that we know is comfortable there rather than one we hope is comfortable there. Now, they do need a 3rd line LW but 3M spent there is 3M that can't be spent improving the top six RW or D.

 

[lakeshirts37]

its disgusting that this defense could be rebuilt so well this offseason if we didnt have Trouba’s f***ing albatross contract

 

[Tob]

Glen sather retiring in his retirement is the final closure to the OJ Simpson saga we needed.

 

[McRanger92]

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Can Pepe Silvia play top 6 RW?

 

[nyrob13]

I don’t know if this is an idea or something I need to prepare myself for.

Just an idea, I swear. But maybe Chris is reading and likes the idea.

 

[eco's bones]

One thing I think we need to keep in mind as far as point production for any new incoming players is that the Rangers 1st power play unit was pretty close to the top of the league last year and that unit is likely to stay together. I don't think it's likely that the Rangers are going to be able to improve much in that direction. Comparatively for a league wide mean it was pretty close to an expected maximum production last year.....so bringing in a Kane, Zegras, Farabee, Skinner or whoever this player(s) might help to form a better second power play unit but any one of them might not be putting up a lot of power play points. Like Lafreniere last year they're most likely going to need to produce most of their offense 5v5.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

How about a 3 teamer?

Kakko to PHI
Farabee and Lindgren to CAR
Necas to NY

One of the reports claimed that Necas is leaving Carolina because of lack of PP time.
Don’t see him coming here the way the Rangers PP is currently constructed.

 

[NYR Viper]

I wonder if the Islanders will buy out Pageau. He would be intriguing as 3C, push Chytil to wing...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I wonder if the Islanders will buy out Pageau. He would be intriguing as 3C, push Chytil to wing...

He’s washed.

Also LOL to all the islander fans who thought that was a good contract and said he’d age better than Kreider.

 

[Uglybstrd]

Make a deal for Ehlers, replace Gus with Jones, add Othmann, Berard and Enstrom, give Robertson a chance and let's go and stop with the man on man D. Evaluate at the half way point.

I like this plan.

 

[Atax]

I like this plan.

You want to make zero upgrades on D and keep Lindgren and Trouba?

 

[NYR Viper]

 

[Uglybstrd]

You want to make zero upgrades on D and keep Lindgren and Trouba?

I want both of them gone as well. Lindgren should be easy to move, not so sure about the 8 mill man, but I think there could be an opening somewhere (a trade).

 

[Raspewtin]

so the Leafs like basically every meaningful UFA except Stamkos

 

[bl02]

Damn Roy 6 million or more?
I like Tanev but 35 years old some wear and tear on him and he won't come cheap.
Leafs better make right call.

 

[Machinehead]

so the Leafs like basically every meaningful UFA except Stamkos

This feels like when everyone is going to Liverpool or Man United every offseason because it generates clicks and then none of those players actually do.

 

[bl02]

I would love Debrusk but we can't afford him (term and price). Its time to seriously give Edstrom and Berard a chance.

 

[effen]

You can't give Tanev a retirement contract.

Not sure you can Roy 6 either.

Bertuzzi is an interesting one. Domi is very not interesting.

 

[NYR Viper]

You can't give Tanev a retirement contract.

Not sure you can Roy 6 either.

Bertuzzi is an interesting one. Domi is very not interesting.

I don't think Roy gets $6m. Maybe in Canada that's needed but I think he's more likely to fall in that $5.5m range than $6m. He'd be a good get for the Rangers if they could make it work. He's a solid top-4 defenseman.

 

[Fitzy]

Feels like Bertuzzi and Domi are UFAs every summer