Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[IDvsEGO]

Zegras' skill level is far above Kakko. I don't care if Zegras isn't as good defensively. Defense can be taught. His level of talent can't be. He's also never been on a team like the Rangers. The Ducks are a mess and he carried them offensively for two years and then got hurt.

Kakko couldn't stick in the top 6 because his offensive talent isn't high enough. He's a 3rd/4th line defensive specialist, that can be filled via free agency or trade for depth.

Players with Zegras' talent level and age don't get traded often. If the Rangers can get Zegras it would be a no brainer. Especially if they don't give up much to do it.

He's got such an insane amount of talent that he's only putting up 60 points?
Tons of great players on bad teams put up alot more than 60 points, especially getting pp1 time.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Skjei got us schneider. 1:1 thats a move I absolutely make over and over and over again.
I dont care about moving him too early, we got an unprotected (better of two) first round picks.
That was an insane swing. And then covid shut the league down.
Had we won that round vs carolina, that unprotected first would've been 1st overall, and would've been Laf.

Rangers traded with Calgary to move up and draft Schneider. It's not as simple as 1:1 with CAR.

But the sentiment I agree with. Skjei is still the exact kind of defenseman the Rangers need.

 

[Vitto79]

I’ve seen Schmalz name and he would be a good RW option

Lindgren and Kakko ?

Problem is who is the LD replacement

 

[IDvsEGO]

Rangers traded with Calgary to move up and draft Schneider. It's not as simple as 1:1 with CAR.

But the sentiment I agree with. Skjei is still the exact kind of defenseman the Rangers need.

skjei the type of player yes, for the money he's going to get? absolutely not.
He's gonna get at least 8x7 years, and he's not that.

Drury does seem to avoid big swings in UFA.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I did, and Edge did too. The popular opinion on this board at the time was shitting on both Farabee and Brady Tkachuk leading into that draft. The hindsight on here is genuinely amazing sometimes.

I can vouch for you and edge on this.

FWIW, I liked both guys (Tkachuk and Farabee.) I loved Dobson who has had a distinctly different career path than I thought he would. That was my guy.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I’ve seen Schmalz name and he would be a good RW option

Lindgren and Kakko ?

Problem is who is the LD replacement

Not a fan of Schmalz too inconsistent and gets hurt a bit

 

[Mac n Gs]

I can vouch for you and edge on this.

FWIW, I liked both guys (Tkachuk and Farabee.) I loved Dobson who has had a distinctly different career path than I thought he would. That was my guy.

I've been meaning to ask you this, but what was your username then before the GoAwayStaal bit?

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Imagine we traded Trouba, Kakko, and pick #30 to Detroit for pick #15. That would be cool.

 

[majordomo]

Imagine we traded Trouba, Kakko, and pick #30 to Detroit for pick #15. That would be cool.

I seriously doubt Pick 30 is going anywhere in any deal.

 

[B17 Apricots]

I can vouch for you and edge on this.

FWIW, I liked both guys (Tkachuk and Farabee.) I loved Dobson who has had a distinctly different career path than I thought he would. That was my guy.

Dobson and Wahlstrom were my two. Ironically both to the Isles. Wahlstrom may not even stick in the league, Dobson looks like a cornerstone defender you build a defense around

 

[bernmeister]

Kakko is not better than Farabee.

KK mo physically gifted, better upside/potential let him grow w/linemates that have chem
stop trying to force sq peg in round hole

you disagree?
fine.
Let's see what happens down the road

 

[bhamill]

Kakko's numbers in 22/23 were only remotely OK because he was shoehorned into a top 6 role.

NY Rangers projected lineup: Why Kaapo Kakko needs to stay on the top line

For months, Kaapo Kakko quietly longed for another chance to play with Chris Kreider and Mika Zibanejad. Now he's making the most of it.

www.lohud.com

It's not like he added anything much to that line. They were having major issues scoring.

40 5v5 points for a 21 year old season is not just remotely ok. It’s literally the best Colton has managed and he was 27.

 

[LOFIN]

Imagine we traded Trouba, Kakko, and pick #30 to Detroit for pick #15. That would be cool.

I think it would be cool to have a night with Ana de Armas, but the chances of that happening are about as high.

Drury is looking to improve the roster, what would he use to flip that pick to?

 

[McRanger92]

Dobson and Wahlstrom were my two. Ironically both to the Isles. Wahlstrom may not even stick in the league, Dobson looks like a cornerstone defender you build a defense around

That draft was a minefield. I was pissed when we passed on Wahlstrom and he went to the Isles. Shows how much I know lol

 

[bernmeister]

Philly is going to get scraps for Farabee. He’s on the outs and has term on his deal. I don’t think that many teams will be lining up to pay him $5m a year as a ‘maybe’.

which ^ is EXACTLY why IF we traded for we traded for him we should not overpay, esp w/KK
think Vesey + a prospect

 

[irishlaxburger2]

I think it would be cool to have a night with Ana de Armas, but the chances of that happening are about as high.

Drury is looking to improve the roster, what would he use to flip that pick to?

Frankly, I don’t understand the rumor that he’s looking to package Kakko and #30 to move up in the Draft, but it’s out there so I went with it. It’s also out there that he’s potentially looking to package Kakko and Trouba. Throw it all together into one stew, and Detroit actually makes a lot of sense as the opposite party.

 

[AirGut]

I’ll take him all day for the right price. He’s a good player.

He's not what Kreider/Zibanejad need imo. They need a RW that's above them in the Hockey hierarchy, that's why Patrick Kane is the most obvious pathway to potential success.

 

[Kupo]

GDT: - 2017 NHL Draft: The waiting is over! The NYR will pick in the first round!

Some gold in this thread.

 

[Vitto79]

if Trouba was an option for Nashville who would they want to dump back ?

Do Glass or Sissons have value ?

 

[LOFIN]

Frankly, I don’t understand the rumor that he’s looking to package Kakko and #30 to move up in the Draft, but it’s out there so I went with it. It’s also out there that he’s potentially looking to package Kakko and Trouba. Throw it all together into one stew, and Detroit actually makes a lot of sense as the opposite party.

The only way this "Kakko to move up in the draft" to make sense is if that higher pick is immediately flipped for something. Then again, if all this talk about Dolan just wanting a spotlight trade for the sake of it is true (which I don't believe but haven't followed the Rangers for long enough), then who the f*** knows

 

[mike14]

I don't watch Anaheim at all, what makes Zegras bad defensively? Is it effort, skill, positioning or something else?

 

[irishlaxburger2]

I don't watch Anaheim at all, what makes Zegras bad defensively? Is it effort, skill, positioning or something else?

He models his game after Patrick Kane, both good and bad.

 

[bernmeister]

Skjei would instantly be our 2nd best defenseman and he doesn't miss time. He's a great skater and can move the puck, he's also got the size/reach.

Rangers need to completely revamp the D core that can't move the puck. Our D are incapable of basic break outs.

Rangers should never have traded Skjei to begin with.

As others said, dealing BS got us Schneid, so disagree there
As to the bold, all true, which is why price is WWWAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY up
I'd be willing to overpay him a mil a mil and a half BUT ONLY for the bern way: short term 1-2 yrs and no trade protections

KK was also the RW on Mika and Kreiders line. Like 8 other players before him. 9th being Butch, who actually worked.

Like I said, I'm not totally against the prospect of getting Zegras. I'm scared of what they would pay to get him, and how they would deploy him. That is all.

Have courage my friend
and remember, usually, fortune favors the bold!

 

[I Eat Crow]

if Trouba was an option for Nashville who would they want to dump back ?

Do Glass or Sissons have value ?

I'd do backflips if Sissons became a Ranger. Great Swiss army knife kind of player.

 

[Levitate]

Are there actually rumors about Trouba being traded or just wishful thinking