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Kakko being a soft euro doesn’t know how to play softball so no chance for a breakoutRemember last pre-season when Laf looked absolutely horrible and Kakko looked like a stud ready to break out?
Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)
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Kakko's career so far, looks improved every preseason only to look worse than the season before. Signs of a consistent NHL bust. Can't wait until he gets traded for nothing as his trade value gets worse as each day passes by
Facts don’t matter. Clearly chytil is a bust and should be traded for a 7th round pick. And Kakko put on waivers.
Mac n Gs
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If they're trying to shed Kulak as salary, Drury would be completely foolish to not inquire about him. He often makes his teammates better and has a strong history of being very good defensively at 5v5 and on the PK
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The Oilers cant take salary back. Rangers dont even have 1/4th the cap space they would need.
They can trade Kakko to a rebuild team to dump his cap space. I'm sure that would be enough cap space to acquire Kulak but he has 1 year left after this season. UFA in the summer of 26
no
better move is long term not win now which may/may not work and shortens window
add youth if Oil effed themselves cap wise
could have already dealt Ceci, etc but nooooooooooooooooooo they waited
now they are not dictating terms on a deal
offer a reasonable alternative gives them part of a loaf
let them keep older mo expensive vets
Holloway + Broberg + two EDM 3rds
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Sykora + Jones + two NYR 2nds
on F, they kick the can w/Sykora season or 2
and upgrade picks
we get better talent, larger, faster etc
Holloway looks interesting bookended w/Kreider
Broberg, we're gonna move Lindy anyway
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They would not trade Kakko for a vet. Another cheaper young player in a similar situation. To upgrade the defense
Cap space to use to get another vet dman that is defensive that is mobile enough to move the puck outside the defensive zone quickly
Friedman rumor is Broberg wants out and this is an easy way to just take the 2nd
They will match Holloway
Problem is they need Kakko
Berard or Othmaan are the only young guys that could step in and that’s still not for sure
Edstrom and Rempe are more 4th like options that I could see coming up and down all year
Honestly, I am just not ready to give up on Kaako yet. He might never be the player we hoped for and envisioned, but he can still be a solid NHL player. I do think that there is another level to his game that we have just only seen glimpses of. Another disappointing year and I will likely feel differently. But not yet.
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Kakko will likely end up a defensively stalwart 2nd line winger who can play up when needed. As you said, not what we were hoping for, but valuable nonetheless.
haohmaru
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The cold hard truth is that whatever you're getting back for Kakko, at this point, won't be as good as Kakko is - especially at his cap hit.
He should be going absolutely NOWHERE.
He should be going absolutely NOWHERE.
Stop
Do you realize the hypocrisy that is evident from 2 sides of your same mouth?
After saying "not for a vet" you say his cap space for a "vet" dman.
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We are not renewing bread.
Even at less it is too much $$$$ and too much term
plus he's older and not built for POs
Smart move is to be sure about Kakko by adding guys who have chemistry.
Exploit Holloway + Broberg if we can, like I said
see if Helleson from ANA can be had reasonable
move on from Lindy, Vesey, Jones
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Defensive stalwart is a bonus for a 2nd line winger who can play up. If he struggles again on offense in the upcoming season people and very likely front office will lose patience with waiting on Kakko to blossom. The point where he finally will be in control of his destination and the organization might be losing him for nothing then. Bringing Smith bought Drury some time to give Kakko to prove himself again. What do you do if we’re in the same position with Kakko again next offseason?
Kaapo Cabana
Next name: Admiral Kakkbar
Then you sell him for pennies on the dollar because you’re forced to, and it will have been the right decision.
He is a young cost controlled NHL player with potential upside. I have my doubts on whether he can take another step, but I believe the ability to have him for one more season to see if he can make improvements is of more value to the team than the perceived loss in value by waiting to trade him for another year.
Assuming he does not make any improvements and is status quo next season, these are the choices we have:
- trade him now for a similar struggling prospect, or a 3rd round pick (2nd if you're lucky)
- trade him next offseason for a 4th or 5th round pick.
Roo Returns
Skjeikspeare No More
If Kakko doesn't improve he's gone next summer. No room with wingers knocking on the door.
kovazub94
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I agree. There’s pretty much a consensus at this point that that this this is a show-me season from Kakko where he’ll need to provide offense to have any kind of future with the Rangers. But even if he does and a season from now the team would want to keep him long-term, would he want the same then?
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Define “same position”… another injury impacted season? Or just numbers wise? If he plays like a decent defensive 3rd line winger you offer him a commensurate contract, unless someone will offer the value of something more than that in a trade.
There’s no doubt it’s an important season for him as far as defining how he is slotted and paid in this league.
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kovazub94
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As position means unrealized offensive performance while not getting too-6 opportunities which is a very likely scenario. He’ll be one year from free agency and pretty sure would want to find a longterm location where he’d be given opportunities to play with linemates that compliment his game and more minutes all around.
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Shesterkybomb
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I don't know, I think this might be an overreaction to his abilities vs his draft position. I mean as long as his contract isn't out of line with what he provides what's the issue with keeping him? Trading him now gets you a lotteries chance at getting an nhl player, wouldn't it just be better to keep a young player, in the nhl, who can play defense and possibly improve in other areas going forward as long as his cap in line with his value on the team? I'd prefer the lottery to be him improving instead of a 2nd rounder that may never be an nhl player.
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I think if he gets time with a healthy Chytil he’ll top what he did two seasons ago. KK, Chytil, Cuylle IMO would compliment each other and be a dangerous 2 way 3rd, or 2nd if Mika and Kreids continue to score at a third line rate off of the PP, line.
The main thing should be finding out just what Kakko is capable of, so we can make an informed choice on what to do.
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