In case you have forgotten, trading away the captain is not a foreign concept in Rangerland....they traded their previous 2 captains.
Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)
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pld459666
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Hate to break it to anyone who's willing to listen.
Brady alone is not going to make much of a difference.
We need a 3rd line capable of offense, we need guys that skate better than Goodrow, Kakko, Vesey.
Guys tjat can make plays in tight spaces, preferably between the circles and in front of the net.
We need guys that other teams hate to play against because we make life physically miserable for opposi gnteams.
Domi is a poser, want nothing to do with him unless he takes the Wheeler deal.
I'd go after David Perron. He's a royal prick to play against.
Brady alone is not going to make much of a difference.
We need a 3rd line capable of offense, we need guys that skate better than Goodrow, Kakko, Vesey.
Guys tjat can make plays in tight spaces, preferably between the circles and in front of the net.
We need guys that other teams hate to play against because we make life physically miserable for opposi gnteams.
Domi is a poser, want nothing to do with him unless he takes the Wheeler deal.
I'd go after David Perron. He's a royal prick to play against.
The panthers traded their best player to get Matt tkachuk.
How has that worked out for them?
I wouldn't focus on one player like Tkachuk. This board does that for some reason and then when that player isn't traded here people go wild about how the Rangers blew it. If the Rangers could swing it, great, if he's not available then we can't yell about how they should have somehow altered reality to make him available.
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MrAlmost
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Move out/Let walk:
Lindgren
Chytil
Kakko
Goodrow
Gus
Wennberg
Roslovic
Resign:
Schneider 2x2.75(Same as all the other RFAs got)
With this we are looking at about 15.5 million in cap if you just trade those players to recoup lost assets/prospects, but not roster players.
Panarin-Trocheck-Laf
Kreider-Z-?
Cuylle-?-?
?-?-Vesey
Rempe
Miller-Fox
?-Schneider
Jones-Trouba
?
Igor
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In my opinion, the amount of question marks is great. You can reshape the identity of the team with that for sure.
First thing I think, Othmann, Berard and Edstrom fill 3 of those question marks. Young and tenacious players. That's good. Fresh legs.
I would sign Stephenson for 3C. He is great on draws, can skate, great PKer, responsible, can score, not afraid of the boards or the front of the net. Basically, another Trocheck.
Teddy Blueger is available too. He would be great for the 4th line center spot. Again, another less talented Trocheck type. Need to be deep and tough to play against up the middle. And if Z ain't gonna be it, the other 3 need to compensate.
Danton Heinen. Tenacious player. Fast.
For the LD spots I would look at Brenden Dillion and Zadorov. I like Zadorov, but he will likely just be so expensive. I mean, if not, then yeah they should pursue that, but I don't know.
As a number 7 I want Calvin De Haan. All around solid for what he brings.
At the end of the day, something like this:
Panarin-Tro-Laf
Kreider-Z-Othmann/Berard
Cuylle-Stephenson-Berard/Heinen
Edstrom-Blueger-Heinen/Vesey
Rempe
Miller-Fox
Zadorov/Dillion-Schneider
Jones-Trouba
De Haan
Igor
Quick
Lindgren
Chytil
Kakko
Goodrow
Gus
Wennberg
Roslovic
Resign:
Schneider 2x2.75(Same as all the other RFAs got)
With this we are looking at about 15.5 million in cap if you just trade those players to recoup lost assets/prospects, but not roster players.
Panarin-Trocheck-Laf
Kreider-Z-?
Cuylle-?-?
?-?-Vesey
Rempe
Miller-Fox
?-Schneider
Jones-Trouba
?
Igor
Quick
In my opinion, the amount of question marks is great. You can reshape the identity of the team with that for sure.
First thing I think, Othmann, Berard and Edstrom fill 3 of those question marks. Young and tenacious players. That's good. Fresh legs.
I would sign Stephenson for 3C. He is great on draws, can skate, great PKer, responsible, can score, not afraid of the boards or the front of the net. Basically, another Trocheck.
Teddy Blueger is available too. He would be great for the 4th line center spot. Again, another less talented Trocheck type. Need to be deep and tough to play against up the middle. And if Z ain't gonna be it, the other 3 need to compensate.
Danton Heinen. Tenacious player. Fast.
For the LD spots I would look at Brenden Dillion and Zadorov. I like Zadorov, but he will likely just be so expensive. I mean, if not, then yeah they should pursue that, but I don't know.
As a number 7 I want Calvin De Haan. All around solid for what he brings.
At the end of the day, something like this:
Panarin-Tro-Laf
Kreider-Z-Othmann/Berard
Cuylle-Stephenson-Berard/Heinen
Edstrom-Blueger-Heinen/Vesey
Rempe
Miller-Fox
Zadorov/Dillion-Schneider
Jones-Trouba
De Haan
Igor
Quick
LOFIN
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This is true, but not sure the circumstances are the same. But they do have the precedent...
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And bought out the one before that (who also just so happens to be the current GM).
noncents
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this lineup has too much Trouba and not enough Chytil.
Oscar Lindberg
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If they’re going to keep Trouba then they have to move Lindgren
Has to be done.
Has to be done.
GAGLine
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The Crypto Guy
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That does nothing for me.
I'd keep Lindgren 100x over Trouba.
Trouba is the issue. BUY HIS ASS OUT.
NYR Viper
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LeetchisGod
This is a bad hockey team.
pld459666
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Barkov has been there best player for the last 4-5 years
Hubie-Due is a decent point machine much like Panarin is.
Hubie is/was overrated
Marchessault is going to get paid.
Same with Bertuzzi (look for Boston)
Perron will probably get the 1 year Vet deal.
Lindgren would probably be a fine 3rd pairing guy
I agree in theory the best move is dumping trouba one way or another but I don't think it'll happen
Drury is gonna have to be cutthroat about this if he does go that route
The only one I can think of is Tampa. Who drafted Stamkos, Hedman, Kucherov, and Point to make up for that.
Brady isn't Matt. Not even in the same stratosphere as a player.
LeetchisGod
This is a bad hockey team.
31 years and counting. I think being cutthroat is warranted.
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I think the bottom line is that Florida took a huge risk and traded major players with high perceived value for the exact right type of player they needed to get to the next level. Kudos for them on being decisive. What's the rangers version of that trade?
80shockeywasbuns
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They don’t really need much ammo, it’s an addition by subtraction situation with the top 4. All the team has to do is recognize the problem players and replace them with any respirating, blood circulating human beings
NYR Viper
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I'm okay paying.
Per AFP:
Bertuzzi - 4 years @ $5.3m
Marchessault - 3 years @ $6.3m
Perron - 2 years @ $2.95m
I like Perron in general but he's more of a 3rd liner at this point in his career. I could see him playing well with someone like Cuylle on LW and Perron on the right though.
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Lets be honest with ourselves and realize the Rangers probably missed the boat bigtime by not snapping up Eichel. That's if he truly was available to the Rangers for some combo of Kakko as the centerpiece and other prospects/picks(not including Laffy). When a player like that comes available, you need to spring into action to secure him.
They did trade the previous 2 captains. But I agree I doubt it happens. I feel the only changes this off season will be UFA's walk, KK traded(not fully in agreement but it is what it is at this point), some 1 year deal signings so that kids like Othmann, Berard,Edstrom get a shot to make the lineup in some capacity. I also wouldn't be surprised if Scalia beats out Robertson for 7d.
If they try to to revamp the 4th line, I'd like to see Goodrow moved, maybe see what you can get for Vesey if nothing good keep him, and try some combo of UFA's like Joshua, Lafferty, Duhaime, or Trenin w/Edstrom getting a real shot at the 4th line. For the top I'd see what It takes to get Kaliyev, he has a lethal shot and can prob move up and down the lineup at rw. Also I didn't watch a lot of Othmann in Hartford. I know he has a good shot but does he drive to the net and get garbage goals or is he more like CK but a little more willing to make hits?
HockeyBasedNYC
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I think its more than fair to say this teams core had its shot.
3 good to excellent regular seasons, good comeback ability. A ton of fun nights and big wins at the Garden.
2 trips to the conf final and one complete choke job in the first round against their hated rivals, which I still havent forgiven them for.
I would hope that at least one or two names of this core are moved or removed from the team and a refresh of the lineup happens, but im not sure if it can be done to a level that yields much difference.
And looking back at the deadline, if Kakko was part of the package for Guentzal that may have been the difference. Who knows. The fact that Kakko was scratched for a game really bothered me, not like previous years because i thought he should be playing, but because if he wasnt that important to the lineup than he was an expendable chip you could have been aggressive with to bring in an impact player, Guentzal or other.
Another few goals from someone and we may be talking about Game 1 of the final
3 good to excellent regular seasons, good comeback ability. A ton of fun nights and big wins at the Garden.
2 trips to the conf final and one complete choke job in the first round against their hated rivals, which I still havent forgiven them for.
I would hope that at least one or two names of this core are moved or removed from the team and a refresh of the lineup happens, but im not sure if it can be done to a level that yields much difference.
And looking back at the deadline, if Kakko was part of the package for Guentzal that may have been the difference. Who knows. The fact that Kakko was scratched for a game really bothered me, not like previous years because i thought he should be playing, but because if he wasnt that important to the lineup than he was an expendable chip you could have been aggressive with to bring in an impact player, Guentzal or other.
Another few goals from someone and we may be talking about Game 1 of the final
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