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Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

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McRanger92

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I still love that reddit theory from the other day that the Wings/Sharks trade and SJ claiming Goodrow for nothing is related to Trouba to Detroit. It passes the smell test.
 
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He was absolutely fine with him, lets not pretend like he wasn't, this is getting pretty ridiculous.
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Been phone posting but have a better chance to respond now

Basically, I think Lindgren was "fine" with Fox for the first year because no one knew what they were getting with Fox yet, he wasn't considered the top D on the team, pairing him with a guy he knew made sense, and then they kept that going in year 2 which was fine. But by this point I think we can see that if Fox is the teams top defenseman, he needs a better partner. Lindgren is "mid" at best at everything...he's not big, he's not physical (in a way that matters, he's not winning lots of battles or throwing hits that scare anyone), he doesn't move the puck well, he doesn't defend particularly well, he doesn't clear the crease, he certainly doesn't facilitate offense, he doesn't deny defensive zone entries...he doesn't even take hits to make a play well (because he's always taking dangerous hits and getting hurt).
Even if we come down on the side of "Fox needs a stay at home partner to do the dirty work for him like retrieve pucks" then the Rangers can still easily upgrade over Lindgren there, because he doesn't DO any of that stuff particularly well.

He's easily upgradable. The reason he hasn't been is because he's buddies with Fox and people built up this narrative that Fox somehow needs him. But again, everything that Fox needs in a partner are things that can be done by someone other than Lindgren and done better and for probably as expensive or cheaper at this point.

Ideally the Rangers would move on. I'm worried they're going to handicap Fox for most of his career here with a guy that only does one thing acceptably well and that's be friends with the best defenseman on the team.
 
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Levitate said:
Been phone posting but have a better chance to respond now

Basically, I think Lindgren was "fine" with Fox for the first year because no one knew what they were getting with Fox yet, he wasn't considered the top D on the team, pairing him with a guy he knew made sense, and then they kept that going in year 2 which was fine. But by this point I think we can see that if Fox is the teams top defenseman, he needs a better partner. Lindgren is "mid" at best at everything...he's not big, he's not physical (in a way that matters, he's not winning lots of battles or throwing hits that scare anyone), he doesn't move the puck well, he doesn't defend particularly well, he doesn't clear the crease, he certainly doesn't facilitate offense, he doesn't deny defensive zone entries...he doesn't even take hits to make a play well (because he's always taking dangerous hits and getting hurt).
Even if we come down on the side of "Fox needs a stay at home partner to do the dirty work for him like retrieve pucks" then the Rangers can still easily upgrade over Lindgren there, because he doesn't DO any of that stuff particularly well.

He's easily upgradable. The reason he hasn't been is because he's buddies with Fox and people built up this narrative that Fox somehow needs him. But again, everything that Fox needs in a partner are things that can be done by someone other than Lindgren and done better and for probably as expensive or cheaper at this point.

Ideally the Rangers would move on. I'm worried they're going to handicap Fox for most of his career here with a guy that only does one thing acceptably well and that's be friends with the best defenseman on the team.
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couldnt agree more on everything said here. fox would also probably put up a good 10 more points a year with a more dynamic partner at LD. in the offensive zone fox is sooo good at sucking players to him and then finding lindgren wide open in the zone and lindgren pretty much never does anything with the time and space that he has with the puck in the ozone.

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She has broken some stuff in the past, I believe. I think she had Wennberg to the Rangers before anyone else.
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when u are in the role she is with espn and nhl u are going to hear a lot of things.
 
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MTL trade 26th overall, 57th overall and 198th overall to Kings for 21st overall
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I hope this isn't a trade for a trade... i really don't want to trade kakko just to move up 9 spots in THIS draft. It's slightly unusual for trades like this to happen before the draft. These usually happen because there's a player the team is targetting and isn't sure they can get at their spot. and that's usually something you pull off as you see how the board is shaking out. so, this feels like it COULD be a deal for a deal regardless of Kakko. But if Kakko's value is 9 spots in a draft like this, it kinda seems pretty terrible.
 
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rangers1314 said:
MTL trade 26th overall, 57th overall and 198th overall to Kings for 21st overall
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I dont understand these deals before the draft has even started. -EV to trade up for a hypothetical player imo. Gorton and Bobrov must be cooking up something vile for Habs fans right now
 
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