Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[RangersFan1994]

Can Mika play RW?

He is too soft. Do you really think even at his size, and his soft play, he would be really good trying to get pucks off the boards and be good with his board work and in the corners. Too much of a perimeter player for that

 

[bl02]

This is a serious question, by the way. He’s right handed and we’re likely stuck with him, so might as well try to make the most of it.

Maybe the answer to finding a player to play with Mika and Kreider isn’t finding a RW. It’s moving Mika to RW and finding a Center who drives play.

If we could find a center that drives play I would just want Mika gone period. Don't need him at RW. I highly doubt that's gonna turn him into an effective goal scorer in the playoffs.
Unfortunately to Chytil's health status Mika is kind of a shitty insurance policy because we need a another center.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

He is too soft. Do you really think even at his size, and his soft play, he would be really good trying to get pucks off the boards and be good with his board work and in the corners. Too much of a perimeter player for that

See that’s exactly the point. He wants to be a perimeter player. He already is a perimeter player. Let him be one by playing the wing.

And if you think that means he gets worse 5v5, my question is how? And does it even matter? It can’t get any worse than sub 40% xGF and 8 5v5 goals in 82 games.

If we could find a center that drives play I would just want Mika gone period. Don't need him at RW. I highly doubt that's gonna turn him into an effective goal scorer in the playoffs.
Unfortunately to Chytil's health status Mika is kind of a shitty insurance policy because we need an another center.

The answer for sure wouldn’t/shouldn’t be Chytil unfortunately.

 

[JohnC]

im gonna keep banging the Zib for Danault drum until it happens.

Running Trocheck-Danault-Chytil down the middle would just be turning back the clock to the days of Stepan-Brassard-Hayes. It is not championship caliber center depth.

 

[Anthony5967]

I’m excited to see a summer of proposals drooling over Brady Tkachuk (who isn’t good)

Yea, you know puck. What a ridiculous and 100% insane statement.

 

[Captain Monglobster]

They need to start acquiring players with a certain character profile, similar to the types they have been drafting. Size speed tenacity.

There is no other road forward for this team. East-West does not work in the playoffs. They need to transition into a North-South type team.

I would even try Miller as a F before inevitably trading him.

 

[UnSandvich]

Running Trocheck-Danault-Chytil down the middle would just be turning back the clock to the days of Stepan-Brassard-Hayes. It is not championship caliber center depth.

It's an upgrade over Trocheck-Zibanejad-Chytil at least.

 

[Anthony5967]

I'll be honest with you, and Brooks makes this point and he's right, but it's time to construct a legit shutdown checking line. Zibanejad and Kreider will never drive play at a rate we would need to win anything if they're being used as matchup guys. What was the purpose of acquiring Wennberg and never trying him with Vesey and Goodrow as a checking line? That's a Lavi problem.

I also think we saw some big time bright spots en route to being the most consistent team all year. Schneider is a top-4 d-man next year, and I doubt they can revert back to 3RD after they demoted Trouba multiple times. The organization has to know and see that 8 is a guy they have to move on from. $8M for a third pair d-man is insane. Wonder if Boston would do a Lindholm for Lindgren swap to cut salary, or a deal centered around a guy like Lohrei. Fact is, the NYR need a bigger d-man to play next to Fox if they're not going to get another quality puck-mover.

Zibanejad and Kreider are going nowhere, let's be real. What 1C option is out there? Eriksson-Ek? Danault for Zibanejad? None of these move the needle. Ugh, so many questions.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Trading Jacob Trouba is the epitome of addition by subtraction

 

[Anthony5967]

I also think we're seeing Drury not rush it but his draft record now is rooted in North American north-south pitbulls that combine scoring and grit.

 

[HANK30]

Because he can skate, is still the best net front presence in the game, is a leader, and scores 40 goals a year, many of which are big goals. Those are good reasons to keep a guy that makes 6.5 mil a year. The real question is why would anybody want to trade him.

Kreider is the reason we even advanced to the ECF. Carolina should have beaten us and would have if if weren't for his heroics in game 6.

 

[SA16]

I'll be honest with you, and Brooks makes this point and he's right, but it's time to construct a legit shutdown checking line. Zibanejad and Kreider will never drive play at a rate we would need to win anything if they're being used as matchup guys. What was the purpose of acquiring Wennberg and never trying him with Vesey and Goodrow as a checking line? That's a Lavi problem.

They didn't have room to play Wennberg on the 4th line because the fanbase, media, and coaching staff bought in to the narrative that Rempe had to play almost every game for "energy" and then took up a spot on the line.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Yea, you know puck. What a ridiculous and 100% insane statement.

please

If his last name wasn’t Tkachuk, people wouldn’t give two f***s about him. He’s not his brother, despite what you people want to believe

 

[bbny]

Because he can skate, is still the best net front presence in the game, is a leader, and scores 40 goals a year, many of which are big goals. Those are good reasons to keep a guy that makes 6.5 mil a year. The real question is why would anybody want to trade him.

It’s simple. The gap is big enough between this team and ones that can go the distance where closing that gap is not fully solvable in one summer with the contracts they have, so you have to look 2-3 years down the road. In 2 years, Kreider will be 35 and 1 year from UFA and possible retirement. He’s on a good contract and another team will pay through the nose for it. Also consider he’s likely to decline at this stage of his career. I like Kreider so this is coming from a place of appreciation for his value to a team.

 

[SA16]

please

If his last name wasn’t Tkachuk, people wouldn’t give two f***s about him. He’s not his brother, despite what you people want to believe

I'm actually pretty sure that regardless of what his name is people would be interested in an extremely physical player who has scored 2.41 pts/60 the last two years (33rd in the league min 1000 mins). He's actually a pretty clear 1st line wing and great player, despite what you people want to believe.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I'm actually pretty sure that regardless of what his name is people would be interested in an extremely physical player who has scored 2.41 pts/60 the last two years (33rd in the league min 1000 mins). He's actually a pretty clear 1st line wing and great player, despite what you people want to believe.

Great, he’s also a LW when we already have close to 20 million locked in already in the top 6

So what are we doing here

 

[SA16]

Great, he’s also a LW when we already have close to 20 million locked in already in the top 6

So what are we doing here

Yes he's also unavailable. I don't know why people would bring him up.

That's also not the point. I have seen this trend around these boards for many years. According to this forum like 98% of the league is terrible. Essentially the logic goes like this: Do you want this player on the team? If, no, the player is actually secretly terrible no matter how good his stats may be.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I like Laviolette more than I thought I would, but man Kris Knoblauch was in our organization a few months ago and now he looks to be taking this Oilers team to the Stanley Cup Finals.


That stings a bit.

 

[Tob]

my mind trying to figure out how to get rid of zibanejad who has a NMC, loves NYC, sells tickets to casuals, and has no desirability around the league at 31 years old

 

[irishlaxburger2]

I like Laviolette more than I thought I would, but man Kris Knoblauch was in our organization a few months ago and now he looks to be taking this Oilers team to the Stanley Cup Finals.


That stings a bit.

See also - Mike Sullivan

 

[Vitto79]

So who’s the ufa RW for Zib and Kreider ?

Detroit may fit Trouba
Would have to take a Holl back though

 

[LeetchisGod]

I like Laviolette more than I thought I would, but man Kris Knoblauch was in our organization a few months ago and now he looks to be taking this Oilers team to the Stanley Cup Finals.


That stings a bit.

He wouldn't have had McJesus and Draisaitl here. Not to mention that the Oilers have gotten to face a crappy Kings team, Vancouver with a injured Petersson and a Dallas team with nothing left in the tank.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

He wouldn't have had McJesus and Draisaitl here. Not to mention that the Oilers have gotten to face a crappy Kings team, Vancouver with a injured Petersson and a Dallas team with nothing left in the tank.

The Oilers are of course loaded with talent and top-10 picks, but they look lightyears better under Knoblauch than they did under Woodcroft.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I’m a little bit intrigued to see what Drury does, if it’s a major change or a minor tweak. I feel like his options are somewhat limited

 

[Tob]

can someone like, if you have time, look up every brooks article the day after the rangers are eliminated in the last 2-3 years and see what he said?