Roster Building thread - Part X - (TDL edition)

[will1066]

Trade for him then bench his ass. That'll teach him!


If you ain't 6+ feet tall, makin at least 175K a year, keep yo ass walking.

Lmao

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

That's why I brought up Krav's drubbing in front of the other guys.

I’m sure they both hated him. Drury is a massive p*ssy. Apparently he chewed out Kravtsov in front of the AHL team for exercising his European out clause that Drury himself gave him.

 

[bernmeister]

Seeler, Merrill, Edmundson, all guys I would not mind as a #7. Jones can move the puck but he can't move bodies enough for me to ever be confident in him playing a bottom pair role in the playoffs. I think he can put up points as PPQB for a rebuilder.

Yeah, which is why I have been Johnny One Note about Robertson to varsity like yesterday, deal w/growing pains, by now likely would be/be close to PO ready.
But NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anyhoo, don't complicate that mistake by spending assets on a guy who addresses the size need, but doesn't skate well enuf so = pylon = other set of probs

 

[McRanger92]

I’m sure they both hated him. Drury is a massive p*ssy. Apparently he chewed out Kravtsov in front of the AHL team for exercising his European out clause that Drury himself gave him.

I guess it's not so fun for guys when Drury "tells it like it is".

 

[lakeshirts37]

Go get Warren Foegele or Tommy Novak for a mid round pick.

Wennberg or someone similar for 3C.

We just need some more FWD depth at a reasonable cost.

Nashville isnt moving Novak

 

[TominNC]

To be loved you have to be nice to people. Every day. But to be hated, you don't have to do squat. (c)

and for all the debating bickering quarreling people do about how to make the RONGOS better, the GM (who's duty to be the superior of all hence the servant of all) gets a free pass bc he thinks someone is an asshole. Right.

Hate that nickname. Join the list

 

[Fitzy]

Robertson has still not played a single NHL game. I think if NYR were truly invested in his development they would have found a way to do so by now. Been 5 years since he was drafted.

 

[Levitate]

I’m sure they both hated him. Drury is a massive p*ssy. Apparently he chewed out Kravtsov in front of the AHL team for exercising his European out clause that Drury himself gave him.

Drury wasn't the Rangers GM at the time so he didn't "give" Kravtsov that contract, that would have been Gorton

 

[bobbop]

Listening to the PDOcast trade deadline special they suggested:

STL: Kakko, Lindgren, NYR 1st, Ottawa 2nd
OTT: Parayko, Goodrow, Othmann
NYR: Chychrun, Buchnevich

Too rich for my blood but I appreciate them recognizing Goodrow and Lindgren are players that need to be moved to improve this team.

I hope that trade works on NHL 24 because it won’t ever happen in real life

 

[RangersFan1994]

Listening to the PDOcast trade deadline special they suggested:

STL: Kakko, Lindgren, NYR 1st, Ottawa 2nd
OTT: Parayko, Goodrow, Othmann
NYR: Chychrun, Buchnevich

Too rich for my blood but I appreciate them recognizing Goodrow and Lindgren are players that need to be moved to improve this team.

Emily Kaplan let it be known that teams ask for Othmann and Perreault and that they are borh untouchable.


Stop adding them to stupid trade proposals .

I thought fans were smarter than this.

 

[bobbop]

nah he was still awesome. he quit hockey because he hated the trap and the clutching and grabbing. the '94 team wasnt even that good until they got him in November.

He hated Colin Campbell. Thats why he quit.

 

[huerter]

Listening to the PDOcast trade deadline special

On purpose?

 

[lakeshirts37]

Seeler, Merrill, Edmundson, all guys I would not mind as a #7. Jones can move the puck but he can't move bodies enough for me to ever be confident in him playing a bottom pair role in the playoffs. I think he can put up points as PPQB for a rebuilder.

Seeler is more than a 7th. He’s better than Lindgren and Gus this year

 

[Guyute]

He hated Colin Campbell. Thats why he quit.

Who doesn't hate Colin Campbell. The guy has the IQ of a rock.

 

[bhamill]

To some degree, the current construction of this roster has created an either/or view of players -- a player either provides grit/leadership or scoring. But the truth is, majority of cup winners over the years have at least one top player who can do a bit of both.

The Messiers, the Stones, the Tkachuks, the Graves, Claude Lemieux(only made it to finals last year), Shanahan, Corey Perry. . Then there's the next version of that kind of player who is less gritty but still extremely sturdy that are also super valuable come playoffs - Kopitar, Getzlaf, Barkov, Mackinnon, Rantanen, Draisatl.

These players are not just gritty or sturdy but they can score -- and, this is the really important thing -- they get inside! Into the paint and score a dirty, hard-nosed goal when you need one in the playoffs. Just their ability to do so, also opens things up for teammates. When you have that kind of player or players as part of your CORE, it makes it much easier to build around. But having a ton of finesse and just adding grit around it, can fail more often than succeed.

What this core has sorely lacked is having one or two players like that. Kreider SHOULD be that. But he hasn't shown that willingness. Truly, Kakko and Laf ARE those kinds of players eventually. I don't know that they are right now. But Laf is surprisingly big and sturdy and is winning tons of puck battles this year. He really is THE player to build around going forward. Kakko? Put him on a line that gets the puck below the goal line and likes to grind it out, and I guarantee he'll have a bigger impact come playoffs. I don't know if anyone's noticed, but there's been a shift in his style the last 5-10 games -- he's taking the puck fearlessly to the net. Those goals that look flukey or soft because they're sneaking their way in... that's been happening because he's heading to the paint much quicker than before. And his hands are quick and very effective in tight. Those goals aren't flukes. They're a key part of his game as he matures.

In any case, the kind of player the Rangers need to add to that top line IF it were even an option, is the next Tyler Bertuzzi, Zach Hyman or Tyler Toffoli. And their 3rd line center option needs to be someone with size and speed that helps Kakko and Cuylle play below the goal line. I like Brodzinski but he's a guy who succeeds at using his speed to create turnovers, but he's not always great at keeping possession along the walls. Our bottom six needs to become a meat grinder in the playoffs if we want Panarin, Fox and Zibanejad to be effective at all. That was the winning formula 2 years ago with Copp and Motte.

Lastly, the most important aspect of this deadline for me is -- DO NOT MOVE Othmann, Berard, Rempe, Sykora, Roobreck or Edstrom. I can live with Chmelar being moved but like him too.

We need these young guys to come up so our next big in-season acquisition isn't 3rd and 4th liners, but it's that Rick Nash final piece type move (that actually works this time!)

Once we're past the deadine, I could see Berard or Othmann coming up. It's all going to come down to cap space. But I believe Berard could be a real spark plug for this team if he proves he can handle the size/speed of the league.

Like everything about this post.

 

[bhamill]

There's always a middle ground between selling the farm and going all in. Drury hasnt led us astray with his deadline actions in the past and I dont expect he will now. Our long term development at this point is building a team in the post Igor/Panarin world, Im ok with adding immediate help given where we are in our trajectory.

I don’t know about post Igor, I doubt he’s going anywhere. Unless his contract demands are really wild. If the NYR manage to win this year or next, Pan might just give us a big discount. He’s already got more money than he can easily spend. Hahahah.

 

[bobbop]

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New York Rangers

He legit took a slap shot on a breakaway and scored.

He couldn’t stick handle. He had a broken wrist and was playing with a cast.

Happened on my birthday. My favorite player

 

[McRanger92]

I don’t know about post Igor, I doubt he’s going anywhere. Unless his contract demands are really wild. If the NYR manage to win this year or next, Pan might just give us a big discount. He’s already got more money than he can easily spend. Hahahah.

Post - 5 mil AAV Igor I should say

 

[bhamill]

most likely.

you make it out to be that there are justifiable grounds for that. Rather than the reality which is they likely got into a personal conflict of some sort. Not the first and I'm afraid not the last with how Drury is, but while re Krav he got away with it, the Buch trade turned out to be a disaster that palpably hurt this team.

Well that’s a whole lot of speculation… why is it likely they got into a personal conflict? Because Drury called out a quitter once? Just sounds like gossip. Trade ended up a stinker, but we all know it was a “Kreider or Buch” decision and Kreids was the better keep IMO as well as many others’. If Kreider had been the one traded would we be thinking Drury and Kreids had some sort of personal conflict? Do we assume any other players who got traded were sent away over that kind of nonsense?

 

[IDvsEGO]

I’m sure they both hated him. Drury is a massive p*ssy. Apparently he chewed out Kravtsov in front of the AHL team for exercising his European out clause that Drury himself gave him.

Didn’t gorton give him that?

I don’t know about post Igor, I doubt he’s going anywhere. Unless his contract demands are really wild. If the NYR manage to win this year or next, Pan might just give us a big discount. He’s already got more money than he can easily spend. Hahahah.

The problem is we’re gonna have to pay Laf.
It’s a good problem to have, but Laf is gonna take a lot of panarins cap once that ends.

 

[bhamill]

anyone who says they "tell it like it is" is most likely just an asshole who likes making other people pissed at them

Hahaha

 

[majordomo]

Who doesn't hate Colin Campbell. The guy has the IQ of a rock.

Now whatever did a rock do to you that would make you insult it in this manner?

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

Drury wasn't the Rangers GM at the time so he didn't "give" Kravtsov that contract, that would have been Gorton

Wasn’t he assistant GM and GM of HFD?

 

[Uglybstrd]

How about: Zegras, Vatrano, and Strome, for Goodrow and a 6th.

Add a 5th and we get them all @ 50 %

 

[bhamill]

Drury wasn't the Rangers GM at the time so he didn't "give" Kravtsov that contract, that would have been Gorton

Yeesh. Please don’t counter the “Drury is a big dumb meanie” narrative. He obviously just predicated all of his roster moves so far on personal issues and not the good of the team. In fact he tricked Gordon into giving Krav that out in his contract, JUST so he could be mean to him. 4D chess ogre.

Didn’t gorton give him that?


The problem is we’re gonna have to pay Laf.
It’s a good problem to have, but Laf is gonna take a lot of panarins cap once that ends.

Cap is also going to be much higher. But good thing it looks like we will be stocking the bottom six with homegrown cheap contracts.