Roster Building thread - Part X - (TDL edition)

[Savant]

Where are they going dude? Mika is the 1C whether people like it or not, and Trouba’s contract is not easily moved without retention.

I still think that in a weird way Zibanejad for Zegras, while albeit not a perfect deal, kind of gives both teams what they need

 

[Machinehead]

I still think that in a weird way Zibanejad for Zegras, while albeit not a perfect deal, kind of gives both teams what they need

Motion sickness?

 

[Machinehead]

The heat will be off Kreider in a couple of weeks when Trouba comes back and we go back to giving up five odd-man rushes a period.

It'll be Fox's fault somehow, but still, the heat will be off Kreider.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

is the site running like sheeeit for the past day or so or is it just me?

takes a few to sevearal seconds for pages to load for me or for posts to be submitted

 

[Leonardo87]

I still think that in a weird way Zibanejad for Zegras, while albeit not a perfect deal, kind of gives both teams what they need

Why would the Ducks trade for Mika, when they have Carlsson, McTavish and Gauthier on the way?

 

[savebyrichter94]

Motion sickness?

Creepy boat is running out of room

 

[Machinehead]

is the site running like sheeeit for the past day or so or is it just me?

takes a few to sevearal seconds for pages to load for me or for posts to be submitted

Yeah, it's really bad.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Yes, if we get knocked out early than something needs to change. And everyone knows the bromance runs the show behind the scenes which is why they are never broken up despite them not being able to score at ES for years. The deflection specialist is the best player to lose who will also bring back a hefty return to keep the team competitive.

You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. And your posts are a constant reminder.

 

[GAGLine]

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This was predictable.

While this graph suggests the Rangers have improved since Trouba has been out, it also suggests we were just as good, if not better, at other points in the season with Trouba in the lineup.

There's a small sample size on either side of that curve. Aren't small sample sizes anathema to analytics?

 

[duhmetreE]

I wouldn't mind Kreider getting some days off

Would like to see Berard up here for a few games too.

 

[Machinehead]

While this graph suggests the Rangers have improved since Trouba has been out, it also suggests we were just as good, if not better, at other points in the season with Trouba in the lineup.

There's a small sample size on either side of that curve. Aren't small sample sizes anathema to analytics?

We have like a six-year sample of Trouba being kind of trash.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. And your posts are a constant reminder.

Yea, it's hard to use common sense I guess for some.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Yea, it's hard to use common sense I guess for some.

Common sense doesn't dictate trading a guy who scores a lot of goals in the playoffs and regular season because you don't like him.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Common sense doesn't dictate trading a guy who scores a lot of goals in the playoffs and regular season because you don't like him.

Good players can be traded all the time.

Lets see how effective he is in the playoffs this year, something at ES would be nice. A PP expert can easily be replaced.

 

[turcotte8]

We have like a six-year sample of Trouba being kind of trash.

There's always a dumb GM out there that believes the hype. Trouba get a lot of blocked shots and hits.

If we can trade Scott Gomez and get value we can trade Trouba.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Good players can be traded all the time.

Lets see how effective he is in the playoffs this year, something at ES would be nice. A PP expect can easily be replaced.

He led the team in goals the last two playoffs. I'm pretty sure he'll be ok.

 

[Machinehead]

There's always a dumb GM out there that believes the hype. Trouba get a lot of blocked shots and hits.

If we can trade Scott Gomez and get value we can trade Trouba.

The problem isn't how moveable he is, that problem is that we wouldn't. He's in the lineup because the Rangers like him.

Even Goodrow. Goodrow is already playing over better options. I don't see the Rangers suddenly changing their minds on Goodrow this summer.

Why players are in your lineup is almost always Ocaam's razor. They're in the lineup because the team wants them there.

 

[GAGLine]

Good players can be traded all the time.

Lets see how effective he is in the playoffs this year, something at ES would be nice. A PP expect can easily be replaced.

He's tied with Trocheck for 2nd most even strength goals on the team. At 5 on 5, he's 2nd on the team to Panarin in goals per 60 at .94 (Not counting Edstrom, who has 2 goals in limited minutes). That number is better than Marchand, Petterson, Hintz, Aho, Robertson, Suzuki, Malkin and Matthew Tkachuk. Oh, and Connor McDavid, who is at .81 per 60. For 6.5 mil per year, that seems like good production to me.

He has always been more of a goal scorer than playmaker. If his center is ass, there's not much he can do about it. Mika isn't going anywhere, however. We have to hope that he figures it out.

 

[haohmaru]

PM

Who's scoring 30 goals that costs less than Kreider?

I’ll give it a shot.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

He's tied with Trocheck for 2nd most even strength goals on the team. At 5 on 5, he's 2nd on the team to Panarin in goals per 60 at .94 (Not counting Edstrom, who has 2 goals in limited minutes). That number is better than Marchand, Petterson, Hintz, Aho, Robertson, Suzuki, Malkin and Matthew Tkachuk. Oh, and Connor McDavid, who is at .81 per 60. For 6.5 mil per year, that seems like good production to me.

He has always been more of a goal scorer than playmaker. If his center is ass, there's not much he can do about it. Mika isn't going anywhere, however. We have to hope that he figures it out.

But, but, but... he's part of the bromance!!!!

 

[haohmaru]

And the fact that he has scored 52, 36, and 33 and counting, the last 3 years and was one of the few players to show up in the playoffs last year. Minor details.

Not many wings in the entire league have more goals the last three years. He’s criminally under appreciated.

 

[Machinehead]

Good players can be traded all the time.

Lets see how effective he is in the playoffs this year, something at ES would be nice. A PP expect can easily be replaced.

You can think whatever you want about Kreider, but don't lie. The narrative that he's not good at even strength is a lie.

Over the last four seasons, he's top 40 among all players in even strength goals. His immediate neighbors include Gaudreau, Marchand, Miller, and Pettersson.

 

[Machinehead]

"Let's see how he performs in the playoffs."

One of the top 3-5 elimination game performers in NHL history needs to prove himself again?

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Not many wings in the entire league have more goals the last three years. He’s criminally under appreciated.

Guy has actually gotten objectively better as he's gotten older and lived up to his incredibly team friend contract. And it's still not enough for the lunkheads. Maybe if he spelled his name Kreidér or Kreidquivst people would feel better.

 

[Leonardo87]