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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part X — Active Roster in OP (09/28)
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FireGerardGallant
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Yes but like I mentioned in my following post after 2021 all those guys cept skjei + hank are out of contract. So while its bad at this current point we have a fair amount of flexibility coming in the future
They shot themselves in the foot with that contract. he might have looked like a 5 million dollar player in his 1st full season, but last year he was bad, there was no need to bet that last year was a fluke because most likely his rookie year was the fluke where he racked up a lot of points. And with the defensive depth coming up on LD there was no need for this. They should have signed him to a 2 year 3.8 mil per bridge deal.
The question on the table is ‘will this player be with the team when the team becomes relevant’.
We already know several who won’t be. They will be moved, hopefully for future assets, as situations will allow. Others will simply age out.
The question is not the hopefuls or the ones we already know are ticketed out of town, the intrigue is the 5-6 players who have a chance to earn their future here.
We already know several who won’t be. They will be moved, hopefully for future assets, as situations will allow. Others will simply age out.
The question is not the hopefuls or the ones we already know are ticketed out of town, the intrigue is the 5-6 players who have a chance to earn their future here.
Matt Rentfree
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Yeah, because bridge deals have worked out sooooooo well for this team in the past.
they did, it is the long term deals that we keep messing up on. I would be against any term longer than 4 years.
egelband
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You don’t need to have a definitive extreme position on everything. Just my advice.
So Hughes looking good so far
When can they deal Zuc, Hayes , McQuaid cause it’s inevitable
Ideally Staal at 50. That’s my only real question
When can they deal Zuc, Hayes , McQuaid cause it’s inevitable
Ideally Staal at 50. That’s my only real question
Amazing Kreiderman
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Veterans who are paid like Staal aren't scratched. They can knock the puck in their own net 3 games in a row and they will still play. Ever since I'm in a management position, I understand more and more why a guy like Staal is always playing. It just doesn't work the way fans see it.
The Rangers have a Shattenkirk problem. The Rangers dressed 7 D yesterday. Shattenkirk played just 7:29. 3:22 of that that came on the PP. Back to back games. Shattenkirk is coming off major knee surgery last January.
Shattenkirk looked awful on the first Carolina goal. He lost a puck battle in the corner to Foegele. He decides to chase Williams behind the net after Staal has decided to go after Necas leaving the front of the net and the spot where Shattenkirk is supposed to be all alone for Foegele to tap in the goal. Quinn doesn’t want his D to chase. He wants them to protect the front of the net. This is not AV’s system. He played for Quinn twice before. He should know how Quinn wants to play.
On the 7th Carolina goal, Shattenkirk’s man is Foegele. He has his stick at Foegele’s waist and Foegele stlll manages to score the goal. Soft play.
Tie up his stick.
Quinn said he wanted to get ADA into a game. He picked a back to back situation. Shattenkirk played just 4 minutes at even strength and was directly responsible for 2 goals.
$16M of the $26.6M is paid in the first two years. At the trade deadline, Shattenkirk is still owed $1.7M. $6.6M next season and $4M in 20-21. $12.3M in total.
$6.65M cap.
The Rangers will probably need to retain some of that money.
Shattenkirk has a 10 team no trade list. The Rangers would have 20 teams to work with.
Bad decision making. Soft plays.
Trade him.
Teams were knocking each other over trying to acquire Shattenkirk. Edmonton had a deal worked out for Shattenkirk but he wouldn’t sign an extension. It was for Hall or RNH. Tampa wanted to acquire Shattenkirk for either Drouin or Johnson. Yzerman offered $42M over 6/7 years but the player wasn’t interested. Arizona made an acceptable offer to the Blues but Shattenkirk wasn’t interested in signing there.
There should be a good market for him unless the other teams scout the Rangers and realize that Shattenkirk has major issues.
Shattenkirk looked awful on the first Carolina goal. He lost a puck battle in the corner to Foegele. He decides to chase Williams behind the net after Staal has decided to go after Necas leaving the front of the net and the spot where Shattenkirk is supposed to be all alone for Foegele to tap in the goal. Quinn doesn’t want his D to chase. He wants them to protect the front of the net. This is not AV’s system. He played for Quinn twice before. He should know how Quinn wants to play.
On the 7th Carolina goal, Shattenkirk’s man is Foegele. He has his stick at Foegele’s waist and Foegele stlll manages to score the goal. Soft play.
Tie up his stick.
Quinn said he wanted to get ADA into a game. He picked a back to back situation. Shattenkirk played just 4 minutes at even strength and was directly responsible for 2 goals.
$16M of the $26.6M is paid in the first two years. At the trade deadline, Shattenkirk is still owed $1.7M. $6.6M next season and $4M in 20-21. $12.3M in total.
$6.65M cap.
The Rangers will probably need to retain some of that money.
Shattenkirk has a 10 team no trade list. The Rangers would have 20 teams to work with.
Bad decision making. Soft plays.
Trade him.
Teams were knocking each other over trying to acquire Shattenkirk. Edmonton had a deal worked out for Shattenkirk but he wouldn’t sign an extension. It was for Hall or RNH. Tampa wanted to acquire Shattenkirk for either Drouin or Johnson. Yzerman offered $42M over 6/7 years but the player wasn’t interested. Arizona made an acceptable offer to the Blues but Shattenkirk wasn’t interested in signing there.
There should be a good market for him unless the other teams scout the Rangers and realize that Shattenkirk has major issues.
No trade runs out in feb so before the March deadline ? I think he waives anyway . Maybe NJ would take him ?
DutchShamrock
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He's also not as bad as fans make it out to be. And he provides a level of stability.
I think ADA should he in there over McQuaid but adding more rookies beyond would be problematic. On top of the new system and big turnover, you have ADA and Poink. It looks chaotic even compared to the end of last season.
The just be patient. Let them learn the system and each other. Then it's more feasible to work in more rookies.
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A player or 2 will be dealt at the 20-25 game mark to a team that was supposed to be contending but may be struggling. I can see a team looking at Hayes or Names. I can see McQuaid (Hopefully he keeps up the solid play) and Zucc going to deadline day.
Makes no sense to retain and trade Staal w the teams current cap situation.
Makes no sense to retain and trade Staal w the teams current cap situation.
I don't think extreme is the correct term. I just point out possible issues that might need fixing/improving. probably less than 2% of my suggestions are actually "extreme".
it sure did, he missed a lot of games with injury and now barely has any skating speed. Not many teams are interested in 6.5 mil cap hit for that type of player.
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While I agree Shattenkirk should be moved, Ola and I have been on that page for a while, I am not sure which team trades for him.
I think it's kind of safe to eliminate any team
who is rebuilding
on his no trade list
has a RD PPQB already
who does not want to allocate that cap hit, even with retention given his remaining term
who does not have a RD or two to play ahead of him 5on5 & pk
who will not trade enough futures
Lots of puzzle pieces there
Redden got sent to Hartford smith sent to Hartford girardi bought out
Brad Richards healthy scratched in playoffs.
It’s very doable. We’ve done worse to veterans than making them a healthy scratch as the 7th dman. Especially when it’s obvious their play warrants it
Because it would increase the number of teams who would be in on him and increase the return.
LORDE
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All these posts about trading guys who have sucked so far... Kirk, Names...
Who wants them if they blow????
Who wants them if they blow????
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