Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)
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Machinehead
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It's the f***ing roster building thread. Why respond to it?
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Because other teams will have no reason to downgrade to Lindgren unless the Rangers will make them highly motivated with big incentive. To @hardnosed point (if I understand it correctly) teams that are contenders would not want to downgrade immediately, while the teams that are not contenders would have no use for someone like Lindgren either now or down the line.
A plausible scenario might have been if the Rangers played Jones in top-6 and another team would trade potential future upgrade for someone who'd help the Rangers now (like Mikkola last year). I'd even allow for a possibility of this target to take place of Lindgren as 1LD while Lindgren would slide down. Alas the Rangers already have Gustafsson and I just can't see any of LDs losing their spots this season outside of injuries.
Machinehead
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You know you can trade multiple pieces for one piece thanks to the wonders of modern technology? Happens every deadline.
The notion that teams wouldn't downgrade to Lindgren is drivel.
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Interesting that the Rangers' immediate competition has 5 of the top-7 hardest remaining strength of the schedule while we're just south of the the middle.
Correct. I do not see a rebuilding team wanting a guy that is going to walk after next year. He's RFA after this year. UFA after next. And 2 contenders finding a perfect match is highly unlikely. As for just trading Lindgren for future assets; that means Jones is in. No way our management would do that. If they wanted to do it, they could just sit Lindgren and play Jones.
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I saw you going back to this is a roster thread argument so I'm not going to continue to try proving anything. You're right about multiple pieces. Yes, contenders do downgrade their roster. Yes, non-contenders are pursuing Lindgren type during the season too.
Machinehead
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Yeah "maybe we should package some pieces to upgrade at the deadline" only happens in video games.
If you don't like a proposal, ignore it. I ignore half of what @bernmeister posts because it won't happen, and I mostly leave him alone because he's enjoying himself, it's the point of the thread, it's interesting to think about, IT'S THE POINT OF THE THREAD(!!), and 99% of what's proposed online doesn't literally happen.
You are supremely annoying. You probably correct people's grammar in public.
I haven't been this annoyed since people wanted to trade Panarin for Boris Ballscratch in June.
You have ruined six months of serenity and I hope you're proud of yourself.
You are worse for my mood than Kaapo Kakko.
You've ruined Christmas.
Machinehead
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Lindgren is a pending RFA.
I'm going to shave my head and join a cult.
I'm going to shave my head and join a cult.
And that the flyers are the team nearest the Rangers on both dimensions - goddamn Torts.
mrmovies779
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So here are the assertions:
1. The Rangers get a better D (or better fit) than Lindgren
2. Because of the Rangers' cap situation the said better D should have AAV smaller than Lindgren's or the trading team will need to retain to satisfy this cap requirement which is also pretty costly
In order to reconcile this equation for a better D at low cost it will obviously will require a big add from the Rangers. Recent 1st round picks that are not on the roster? Do we want to lose Othmann or Perreault or a 1st round draft pick? I don't think anything on a smaller scale would excite the other team. From the existing roster but not in the line up? I doubt Chytil or Kakko are in play and once again it would be a pretty big overpayment. Losing Lindgren and Jones for one LD? Also doubtful.
The one possibility might actually be Cuylle. Discuss...
mrmovies779
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n8
WAAAAAAA!!!
No GDT today?
Well you all missed this moment. Wheeler doing a wow face reacting to Zib's tip pass from behind the net.
Savant
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So if Wheeler can stick with Kreider and Zibanejad, the Rangers don’t really need a winger? They need a Chytil contingency plan to cover at C and be a bit of a utility guy in bottom six. They certainly need another puck mover if they could commit a roster spot to one. They could make a hockey trade and push the Lindgren button but either way that's (rightfully or wrongfully) a tough move to make. If Rangers want to improve their mix that is one of the few ways to do it
Daves a mess
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Just got home and came here to say that wow, almost 2 periods and Quickie has a
SHUTOUT!
So far
SHUTOUT!
So far
n8
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People, people, people....
not rocket science!
It's all about the competition of ideas
and an honest discussion about them
even if there is dif of op on can they be implemented
regardless of whether any given idea is
'inside' or 'outside' the proverbial box.
n8
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You appear to be asking does Cuylle return enuf profit in return [ostensibly for better D] that trading him makes sense...
As I have said
no sacred cows, theoretically anyone can be dealt as a practical matter if enuf is on the table.
But everything into account, no, want to hang on to Cuy.
If we can extract profit including swap of 2024 1sts w/EDM [top 3 protected] and can acquire Nurse at half = 4. something for Goodrow + smaller adds e.g. Bonino, etc....
then we retain small 1. whatev long term + flip Nurse at 3
+ LaF + Gabe P
for
Sanderson +
that is the type of overpay but get a foundation piece you consider
and yes, when they hang up the skates LaF may be best player in that deal.
But a foundation piece is not a stopgap like a rental
It is a long term investment
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