Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

[DanielBrassard]

Kakko needs to shoot, Chytil has more shots on goal than him, he has two goals in 17 games, and his shooting percentage is still 9.5 because he doesn’t get shots on goal.

He has had this problem his entire career, he doesn’t shoot because he can’t get into shooting position consistentl, either because he is always funneling himself to the boards or he doesn’t have the awareness to find those quiet areas on the ice to make himself available.

 

[Kendo]

The correct solution would be for Drury to call up Trotz and find a way to rescue Phil Tomasino. He’s been in and out of the lineup all year, helps add more long-term W depth, and also would be a great boost to our overall team speed.

Slot Wheeler as 3C which he did plenty in WPG, bump Kakko back up to 1RW, Bonino to 4L, and Tomasino as 3RW

I really thought Wheeler's C experience was part of the package we were getting with him. The whole point was to make sure that Goodie/Boner don't have to slot up to 3C in case of injury. If Lavs doesn't want Wheeler to play C, then we need one. If we go 50 - 17 - X for the 3rd line, then Tomasino would certainly be an option for one more W.

Trenin is a good player. UFA. Big. Physical.

Good option as well.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

@mas0764

 

[bhamill]

Kakko’s play is doing the job better than I ever could. No chance in hell he’s earned the Chytil contract he’s going to want this summer There’s nothing I want more than for him to solidify himself in the top 6 but unfortunately in year 5 his production has gone down. He’s also been outspoken about a bigger role (which he received and did nothing with). He needs a wakeup call.

Long story short, I’d rather have a player I know is good, like Gourde, for 2 years instead of hoping Kakko decides to shoot the puck enough times to justify his draft position.

I very often agree with you. Here I don’t. In two years Kakko will still be 24 (going on 25) and probably have 8+ more effective years in the league ahead of him. KK is far from untouchable, but IMO 2 years of Gourde is poor value as a return.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Kakko’s play style is just not a flashy one like Laf’s is right now and needs to be. Kakko needs to drive the net more. He’s going to score greasy goals off a forecheck. That’s going to be his style for success in this league. He was billed as a bull power forward type. Yet to see it. But until he gets into that mindset, he will be ineffective offensively.

 

[egelband]

They did need Fox on that day they had Mackey, Brodzinski, and Domingue all up

Got it. So they actually used the LTIR cap benefit for a bit? I didn’t realize that. I think this is the mystery (inasmuch as anyone was interested) solved. Thank you!

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[RangerBoy]

Goodrow and a pick to for Trenin would be good business if Drury could pull it off. I’m sure Goodrow would go to Nashville and Trotz watched him on Tampa up close

I was thinking Goodrow and Jones to Nashville for Trenin and Lauzon. The money matches up. $3,641,667 for Goodrow, $1.7M for Trenin. $2M for Lauzon for this and the next two seasons. Nashvile adds Jones for taking on Goodrow's contract. The Rangers shed the Jones money which gives them more cap flexibility. $812,500. Goodrow has three seasons remaining. He has a 15 team NTC list. Tennessee has no state income taxes. The Rangers shed Goodrow's contract. Trenin is a rental. Trenin can also play in the middle. He is mostly a LW. He would be a 4th line guy on the Rangers. Vegas was a four line team and this coach uses four lines. More depth. Laviolette was in Nashville when Trenin turned pro. Lauzon is a big body on D. Physical. He is a regular D for Nashville. Injuries happen. Lauzon could be Lindgren insurance if Ryan wants crazy money and term. Jones gets his opportunity in Nashville. They have holes on D to fill. Barrie and Carrier are free agents. Vince said someone told him(August podcast) Jones would be a top 6 D on 70% of the NHL teams. Nashville is one of them.

 

[Chytilmania]

He has had this problem his entire career, he doesn’t shoot because he can’t get into shooting position consistentl, either because he is always funneling himself to the boards or he doesn’t have the awareness to find those quiet areas on the ice to make himself available.

It’s okay, David Quinn is very proud of his elite board work.

 

[surlysailor]

I was thinking Goodrow and Jones to Nashville for Trenin and Lauzon. The money matches up. $3,641,667 for Goodrow, $1.7M for Trenin. $2M for Lauzon for this and the next two seasons. Nashvile adds Jones for taking on Goodrow's contract. The Rangers shed the Jones money which gives them more cap flexibility. $812,500. Goodrow has three seasons remaining. He has a 15 team NTC list. Tennessee has no state income taxes. The Rangers shed Goodrow's contract. Trenin is a rental. Trenin can also play in the middle. He is mostly a LW. He would be a 4th line guy on the Rangers. Vegas was a four line team and this coach uses four lines. More depth. Laviolette was in Nashville when Trenin turned pro. Lauzon is a big body on D. Physical. He is a regular D for Nashville. Injuries happen. Lauzon could be Lindgren insurance if Ryan wants crazy money and term. Jones gets his opportunity in Nashville. They have holes on D to fill. Barrie and Carrier are free agents. Vince said someone told him(August podcast) Jones would be a top 6 D on 70% of the NHL teams. Nashville is one of them.

As much as I would like this deal, why would anyone want to help the nyr by taking on the goodrow deal? Nyr make out like bandits here. They clear future cap without giving up much. You have to add a least a 2nd for someone to take on 3 more years of goodrow. On top of that trenin>>>goodrow. Lauzon & jones is a wash maybe jones has more potential but not a good enough prospect player to help shed the goodrow contract.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I was thinking Goodrow and Jones to Nashville for Trenin and Lauzon. The money matches up. $3,641,667 for Goodrow, $1.7M for Trenin. $2M for Lauzon for this and the next two seasons. Nashvile adds Jones for taking on Goodrow's contract. The Rangers shed the Jones money which gives them more cap flexibility. $812,500. Goodrow has three seasons remaining. He has a 15 team NTC list. Tennessee has no state income taxes. The Rangers shed Goodrow's contract. Trenin is a rental. Trenin can also play in the middle. He is mostly a LW. He would be a 4th line guy on the Rangers. Vegas was a four line team and this coach uses four lines. More depth. Laviolette was in Nashville when Trenin turned pro. Lauzon is a big body on D. Physical. He is a regular D for Nashville. Injuries happen. Lauzon could be Lindgren insurance if Ryan wants crazy money and term. Jones gets his opportunity in Nashville. They have holes on D to fill. Barrie and Carrier are free agents. Vince said someone told him(August podcast) Jones would be a top 6 D on 70% of the NHL teams. Nashville is one of them.

Great idea but why does Nashville do this?

 

[maddskkilz]

Getting rid of Goodrow will cost at least a 2nd and even that might require salary retention. He’s a 4th liner who PKs with minimal offensive touch and is paid $3.6m.

If Rangers are serious about gearing up for the playoffs they need to strengthen their middle 6 especially if Chytil is out longer term

Zibanejad as 1C, Trochek as 2C and Bonino as 4C is fine. Still leave middle six center position hole.

On the wings Laf, Panarin, Kreider are all legit top 6 wingers. Kakko slot in by default but really need him to up his game.

Bottom six wingers - Vesey, Wheeler, Cuylle are fine but again we need an upgrade from Goodrow.

Brodzinski can’t be much of a drop off from Goodrow (if we can move on from him) and fills in the bottom six wing spot.

We need a 3C and 3rd / 4th line winger.

 

[McRanger92]

I was thinking Goodrow and Jones to Nashville for Trenin and Lauzon. The money matches up. $3,641,667 for Goodrow, $1.7M for Trenin. $2M for Lauzon for this and the next two seasons. Nashvile adds Jones for taking on Goodrow's contract. The Rangers shed the Jones money which gives them more cap flexibility. $812,500. Goodrow has three seasons remaining. He has a 15 team NTC list. Tennessee has no state income taxes. The Rangers shed Goodrow's contract. Trenin is a rental. Trenin can also play in the middle. He is mostly a LW. He would be a 4th line guy on the Rangers. Vegas was a four line team and this coach uses four lines. More depth. Laviolette was in Nashville when Trenin turned pro. Lauzon is a big body on D. Physical. He is a regular D for Nashville. Injuries happen. Lauzon could be Lindgren insurance if Ryan wants crazy money and term. Jones gets his opportunity in Nashville. They have holes on D to fill. Barrie and Carrier are free agents. Vince said someone told him(August podcast) Jones would be a top 6 D on 70% of the NHL teams. Nashville is one of them.

Sign me up

 

[LOFIN]

Yay

 

[Fitzy]

No need to rush Chytil but we sure as shit are going to need him come playoff time.

 

[LOFIN]

No need to rush Chytil but we sure as shit are going to need him come playoff time.

We have been winning games, but it sure as hell would be nice to get more than 1 offensive line. Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko sounds pretty exciting to me.

 

[IDvsEGO]

We have been winning games, but it sure as hell would be nice to get more than 1 offensive line. Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko sounds pretty exciting to me.

F that.
Cuylle - trocheck - Kakko

 

[Fitzy]

We have been winning games, but it sure as hell would be nice to get more than 1 offensive line. Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko sounds pretty exciting to me.

Every extra game helps, but I wouldn't put him back out there until he is 100% symptom free.

You never know with guys like this when the next hit might be their last.

 

[Savant]

F that.
Cuylle - trocheck - Kakko

I don’t see any reason to break up the Lafreniere line. Like at all.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Glad to hear on Chytil.

Hopefully he remains symptom free.

 

[bhamill]

Goodrow is at 3.6M, a multiple cup winner and a serviceable 3rd liner on many teams. There are teams that could definitely use him. Plus the cap rising next year. I’m not sure why so many people seem fixed on the idea we’d have to add a 2nd or something. He’s NOT Nemeth. We may not get much FOR him, but adding a 2nd? Terrible. I don’t see it.

 

[zlev]

Goodrow is at 3.6M, a multiple cup winner and a serviceable 3rd liner on many teams. There are teams that could definitely use him. Plus the cap rising next year. I’m not sure why so many people seem fixed on the idea we’d have to add a 2nd or something. He’s NOT Nemeth. We may not get much FOR him, but adding a 2nd? Terrible. I don’t see it.

yes. just have to find a GM dumb enough to think he's useful. shouldn't be too hard, there's a lot of them.

 

[duhmetreE]

Cuylle Chytil Kakko could be an effective forechecking line.

Bonino does save them in the D-Zone. Chytil has been poor imo in that regard

Their best defense would be to keep the puck in the ozone the entire shift. I trust Kakko and even Cuylle to some extent defensively.... Chytil has brainfarts in coverage that usually end up bad and the middle of the ice open

 

[bhamill]

yes. just have to find a GM dumb enough to think he's useful. shouldn't be too hard, there's a lot of them.

There are teams he’d be more useful to than us. Just have to hope one of them is not on his no trade list. Haha. If not I see a buyout rather than paying assets to move him… OR he just plays 4th line here again next season.

 

[Alluckks]

What this team really needs it Kreider, Zib, and Wheeler all doing more at 5v5, whether that is on a line together or broken apart