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Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

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NYR Viper said:
My guess with Goodrow is that the team probably thinks there is an opportunity to move him next offseason. I happen to agree with that.
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I think they also have their sights set on winning the Cup and want a 2 time Cup winner on the roster as someone who has been there and done it. Weather that's flawed or what, I think that's their thought process. Goodrow isn't useless, but he's badly overpaid. If he were making what the other 4th line guys on the roster are making we would be happy with him. That contract has to go.
 
Kocur26 said:
The only #NYR skater with fewer 5v5 points than Mika Zibanejad this season is Jonny Brodzinski, who played just 1 game.

The Rangers need two centers.
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Yeahhhhh no they do not.

Its truly amazing how some here are reacting as if Zib has not gotten off to a slow start before. Is this worse than other years, sure. But he is right there. He is still doing the other things on the ice well enough to not be some black hole out there. He is a responsible player and is a leader on this team. He is going to be fine.
 
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If the team didn't have Goodrow, Nick Bonino and Johnny Brodz are half your centers and you have dead cap.

He's important because Chytil hasn't shown any durability.

Rangers need to address the center ice position and LHDs in the draft.

They're in a position where even if they don't go all the way the next three years, they have enough ELC/young depth to keep them competitive for a bit and only have 1-2 potentially painful retool years.

Depth wins and they need to finally luck out with some of these picks.
 
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Roo Returns said:
If the team didn't have Goodrow, Nick Bonino and Johnny Brodz are half your centers and you have dead cap.

He's important because Chytil hasn't shown any durability.

Rangers need to address the center ice position and LHDs in the draft.

They're in a position where even if they don't go all the way the next three years, they have enough ELC/young depth to keep them competitive for a bit and only have 1-2 potentially painful retool years.

Depth wins and they need to finally luck out with some of these picks.
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Maybe they should actually attempt to draft a center this time. Chytil was the last one.
 
KirkAlbuquerque said:
Maybe they should actually attempt to draft a center this time. Chytil was the last one.
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I have been fighting that lonely fight for the last five years. It's me and @bernmeister.

It's my co #1 soapbox issue along with hiring a sport psychologist and developing an analytical-based emotional intelligence test after the nearly dozen or so headcases Gorton drafted.
 
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I honestly would only draft centers in the first round. I mean It. Can always shift to wing. Can’t shift to center.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
I honestly would only draft centers in the first round. I mean It. Can always shift to wing. Can’t shift to center.
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You want to take the best player like Perrault when he falls, but all other things being equal, and often in the 20s your remaining players will be relatively equal, yeah, take the center.

How far ahead of the game would we be if we took Wyatt Johnson over Brennan Othmann?
 
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If you wanted to really go for it this, I honestly wouldn't be opposed to something like this

Schneider + 2024 1st for Lindholm + Zadarov (retention as needed - would likely need quite a bit, hence the cost)
Chytil for Buchnevich (retention as needed)
Extra trade for a vet D as 7th D
Maybe consider an upgrade for 3rd line LW

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin Trocheck Laf
Cuylle Lindholm Wheeler
Goodrow Boninio Kakko
Vesey/Pitlick

Lindgren Fox
Miller Trouba
Gustafsson Zadarov

Edit: forgot Kakko
 
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Alluckks said:
If you wanted to really go for it this, I honestly wouldn't be opposed to something like this

Schneider + 2024 1st for Lindholm + Zadarov (retention as needed - would likely need quite a bit, hence the cost)
Chytil for Buchnevich (retention as needed)
Extra trade for a vet D as 7th D
Maybe consider an upgrade for 3rd line LW

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin Trocheck Laf
Cuylle Lindholm Wheeler
Goodrow Boninio Pitlick
Vesey

Lindgren Fox
Miller Trouba
Gustafsson Zadarov
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Church of kakko gonna be rickd
 
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Jim Ramsay said:
Has Othmann really shown a lot so far down in Hartford? Its hard to see the Rangers putting him at one of the top RW spots unless he really starts piling up some points in Hartford
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He hasn’t on the scoreboard, but he’s still adjusting. Though I don’t think he’s looked out of place, and the goals will start coming. Also I doubt nyr would move him up to the nhl to play rw. They still have him playing lw down in the a.
 
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NYR Viper said:
My guess with Goodrow is that the team probably thinks there is an opportunity to move him next offseason. I happen to agree with that.
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Goodrow is here for these reasons:

Penalty killing
Swiss Army knife dude that can play LW, C, or RW in a pinch is someone gets hurt
Leadership / Elevated playoff player

Is that worth his salary? No. Is he a piece that might be important in April/May? Absolutely. The Rangers kept him because of the above.
 
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Alluckks said:
If you wanted to really go for it this, I honestly wouldn't be opposed to something like this

Schneider + 2024 1st for Lindholm + Zadarov (retention as needed - would likely need quite a bit, hence the cost)
Chytil for Buchnevich (retention as needed)
Extra trade for a vet D as 7th D
Maybe consider an upgrade for 3rd line LW

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin Trocheck Laf
Cuylle Lindholm Wheeler
Goodrow Boninio Pitlick
Vesey

Lindgren Fox
Miller Trouba
Gustafsson Zadarov
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no
 
Can Henrique still play? Feels dirty because of his Devils history but he seems like a good fit as a middle 6 guy who can play on any line. Good career faceoff numbers, kills penalties. Missed some time over the past couple seasons but hes always been good for a 35-40 point ~20 goal pace.

The other guy Id be all over if the Kraken continue to fall out of the race would be Gourde. Getting him for 2 years with money retained would be a homerun. I would trade Kakko for him.
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
Lindholm would be hated almost immediately if the Rangers traded for him.

He is not that good.

Buch isn't the answer either unless you want someone else who is going to get swallowed in the playoffs.
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Trading Chytil for Buch would be the Mika/Brassard trade again, only not in a good way for us.
 
kovazub94 said:
So you’d pass on Perreault?
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I wouldn’t have passed on Perrault, but if Perrault busts, we surely need to learn from that. As it stands I’m kind of out of drafting pass first wingers in general except for special cases that are by far BPA like Perrault was, but there definitely are some strengths to going into a draft with some rules before hand
 
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Savant said:
I wouldn’t have passed on Perrault, but if Perrault busts, we surely need to learn from that. As it stands I’m kind of out of drafting pass first wingers in general except for special cases that are by far BPA like Perrault was, but there definitely are some strengths to going into a draft with some rules before hand
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Othmann wasn’t a pass first winger.
 
IDvsEGO said:
Othmann wasn’t a pass first winger.
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Correct. I believe that you have to draft goals, especially if you are taking a wing. 5x5 goals especially a bonus as we have seen

but to be fair and honest I did not love the Othmann pick either. I wanted Wallstedt at the time.
 
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