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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VII: Return of Beaver Brad

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Pavel Buchnevich said:
And the goaltending got much worse. Went from probably the best back up in the NHL to the worst. How many points is that worth? Hank should only get worse. I hope he gets better, but the trend of goalies his age is worse, not better.

There are many who have suggested we could miss the playoffs. The guy at the Athletic, I think there was a USA Today columnist who said so, some people here have stated that. Take a look at the main boards, there was a poll up for the top cup contenders, we were listed 11th, 3 teams in our division ahead of us, the three everyone would expect. We have a tough division to begin with. Maybe we are a top 16 team in the NHL, but I don't agree with the assertion that we'll make the playoffs, barring injuries. I think we could, but I think its very much on the fence this year. I don't think we can throw out injuries as the excuse if we don't make it. We might not be good enough, we'll have to wait and see.
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meh, every year it's the same. Hank's declining. No elite forwards. Poor center depth. Raanta was nothing special when we got him, was a big question mark following Talbot. Talbot was a nobody coming in. If your biggest concern is goaltending, then best thing to improve is defense, no?

don't really care about polls or pundits. Puckdaddy has the Flyers being more of a cup contender than us. None of it is new, same thing every season. Nobody talks about the difference between 20 minutes of Girardi and 20 minutes of Shattenkirk. We were 11th on the PP last year with 37 games of Zibanejad and 41 of Buchnevich. Add Shattenkirk, maybe DeAngelo. Does it get worse? Do we have a top 10 PP? McDonagh is playing with a top-pairing defenseman. Smith is a top-4 guy, better than Staal, Holden, Klein, Girardi.

9 teams in the league with a lower average age on the roster. only ever hear about the window closing, aging core. if anybody had anything to say about what was added as well as what was removed I'd listen to them, but most ignore it.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
And the goaltending got much worse. Went from probably the best back up in the NHL to the worst. How many points is that worth? Hank should only get worse. I hope he gets better, but the trend of goalies his age is worse, not better.
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Talbot was no one and turned into a solid G, Raanta was 3rd string when we got him too, so if anyone can turn Pavelec into a competent backup its Allaire. It's a valid concern but I far from worst.
 
remind request
pls

when trading how many contracts can you retain up to 50% in a single season?
Forgot if it was 2 or 3.
my understanding is you can't add another until the you are back under this limit.
 
bernmeister said:
remind request
pls

when trading how many contracts can you retain up to 50% in a single season?
Forgot if it was 2 or 3.
my understanding is you can't add another until the you are back under this limit.
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The Rule is that you can only have 3 retained salary transactions on your cap roster at the same time. The only way to undo those retained transactions is if you trade for the player back and then trade him again as a fully salary retained player.

There is no rule for Single Season trades. Just 3 at a time on your roster.

Canucks are a good example. They've retained on both Luongo and Hansen. They can't trade both sedins at 50% because that would be 4 retained contracts, which is not allowed.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks
 
TheTakedown said:
The Rule is that you can only have 3 retained salary transactions on your cap roster at the same time. The only way to undo those retained transactions is if you trade for the player back and then trade him again as a fully salary retained player.

There is no rule for Single Season trades. Just 3 at a time on your roster.

Canucks are a good example. They've retained on both Luongo and Hansen. They can't trade both sedins at 50% because that would be 4 retained contracts, which is not allowed.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks
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thanks
3 it is
 
PMII said:
Wouldn't be surprised if this team won 50 tbh

I'm really expecting the overhauled blueline to change everything
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I want to agree, but I have dark ages PTSD. Lots of turnover this year. It might take this team awhile to gel. There is something to be said for year to year consistency.
 
Happy with Shattenkirk, but a bit disappointing that it ultimately puts the Rangers out of the running for adding a player like Doughty/Karlsson.
 
DrRecchi said:
Happy with Shattenkirk, but a bit disappointing that it ultimately puts the Rangers out of the running for adding a player like Doughty/Karlsson.
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I know we're the Rangers, but we weren't getting either of those. At least not until they're like 36-37.

Shattenkirk was the absolute best available, by a long shot. ADA, Bereglazov and Pionk are promising also. We're miles better.
 
DrRecchi said:
Happy with Shattenkirk, but a bit disappointing that it ultimately puts the Rangers out of the running for adding a player like Doughty/Karlsson.
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I can't see Karlsson leaving Ottawa unless they decide to completely rebuild and trade him. Ultimately, I think he stays there for life (or at least through most of his prime)

Doughty could have been interesting, but I think he ultimately goes to the Oilers, just like Shatty had his heart set on the Rangers.
 
I think the Rangers might want to see what Lias can do straight out of the gate and they will in preseason. We still need a top-6 C, we're cap-strapped and we're supposedly dangling Nick Holden. In other words, we might have to go forward with what we have.


Screw Bobby Farnham and I don't think Jagr or Hudler are in the plans. Someone like Lauri Korpikoski would be a very nice PTO. Another option would be to see who shakes loose on waivers.



My IDEAL (not necessarily realistic) Lines would be:


Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Nash - Bozak or someone of the ilk - Zuccarello
Vesey - Hayes - Miller
Grabner - Desharnais/Andersson/PTO - Fast (injured)/Puempel
Puempel/Nieves/PTO



I wouldn't be opposed to trading Miller and Holden in a package for Duchene, for example. Then move Grabner up to the third line and have a guy on a PTO as a fourth-liner.
 
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PMII said:
Wouldn't be surprised if this team won 50 tbh

I'm really expecting the overhauled blueline to change everything
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I think we are making the POs. BUT, if we go back to 05', one thing I have noticed is that when we have made changes over the years -- good or bad, warranted or not -- it has very often taken time to get everything going again. Sometimes long into the spring, sometimes more than a season.

During the regular season, we have done well whenever we have four functioning lines that play good hockey and a PK that isn't a disaster.

My point is this, I do not think that we can assume that everything will be alright since Girardi was addition by subtraction, Shatty is an addition, Lindberg wasn't that great and JT can replace Stepan -- if you get what I mean. We will only be alright if line 1, line 2, line 3, line 4, PK 1, PK 2, PK 3 and so forth "works" as units.

Previous years, when we have lost guys like Betts, Moore, Prust and the likes, there have often been a lot of adversity to get all parts of the team back on track. And back in those days, I definitely often did not expect that much adversity. Now we have made big changes, this is a big challenge for us.
 
Also, further to what I wrote above, I also think that its a good mindset to have when going into the season that we can face adversity for that reason. I.e. since it simply takes time to get a team together after making big changes. If we do, it does not have to be Shattenkirk or Hayes or Hanks or whomevers fault.
 
It can be a difficult with Pos if our goalies struggle this regular season - Henrik has many years left so I`m not worried. But our backup goalie struggled last season and Henrik can`t play all the games.
 
Idlerlee said:
Is any team a playoff team if their goalie doesn't play well?
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Not often, but there are teams that wouldn't necessarily be playoff teams even with good goalie play.

If we're solid between the pipes we have enough other talent to get in.
 
Top-4 team in East. We'll win 50 games.

For all the doom and gloom this team won 48 games last season. This year's team is better.
 
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