Roster Building Thread: Part VII (2023-24)
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I don't get what fans saw in him. He was a speed PK and nothing else. Its not like he was the next Carl Hagelin
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Motte needs new agents. A fourth liner trying to get paid when guys like Wheeler are signing for 800k is just misreading the market. Did the same thing last year. If he were willing to sign for 1x800k when free agency opened then he’d be here. Instead Drury knew how little cap space he had and I’m sure told him what he was willing to do and when Motte wanted more Drury just pivoted and brought in Pitlick. It’s pretty obvious this is what happened but Larry coming through to confirm: https://x.com/nyp_brooksie/status/1700594553927987681?s=46
haohmaru
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Overrated 4th liner. He does nothing
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What's the difference? Most of his comparables got about the same amount. He held out for more and didn't get it. He'll end up making more in Tampa than NY with the taxes. Seems his agents did fine.
Motte fired his agent and hired Pat Brisson last week.
He wanted a 3 year deal from Vancouver, they passed and traded him to NYR. He wanted a multi year deal last offseason and signed with Ottawa late after he failed again. One more kick at the can and struck out and picked up near league minimum a week out from training camp.
This should put the conversation to bed…for most people, anyways.
Hard to tell who overvalues Motte more between motte and the roster building thread.
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Motte wasn't necessary here, imo ny probably wasn't really interested in him as much as some folks here were. I see Cullye as a guy who needs a spot Motte would probably take on him. It's time for this franchise to involve the draft picks we made and coveted so much into the team. A guy like Cullye provides much the same as Motte and wi do it for the same price for multiple years while gelling as a member of this team going forward. Having guys come in and out of the lineup isn't helpful, give the kids the team and see what we got, Jones included.
So Motte fights and is a big forward with some skill. Motte and Cuylle are not the same type of player at all despite taking his spot on the roster
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And he only got a contract because Archibald had his contract terminated for stepping away from hockey. If it wasn't for that, Motte would be on a PTO anywhere in the league next week.
His agent f***ed him over, misread the market and it resulted in this.
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I wanna say I don't get it with Motte, but I kind of do. Speed is noticeable and he doesn't get enough chances to annoy people like Gauthier does. Classic "bad enough to be a good 4th liner" type of case.
If people think you can do more, they don't like you, even if you do just as much as the guy who can't do more.
To me, he's a body. He's not hurting you compared to the average 4th liner but at the same time, there's 50 guys like him.
If people think you can do more, they don't like you, even if you do just as much as the guy who can't do more.
To me, he's a body. He's not hurting you compared to the average 4th liner but at the same time, there's 50 guys like him.
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Fans like fourth liners who fill their role well and don’t play stupid hockey trying to get promoted. Motte was that way. So was Dom Moore.
To be fair to Motte, hard to look at a GM that gave out the Goodrow contract and not think he can make some magic happen.
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I mean it’s just an observation. They could’ve tried to prioritize term. Perhaps the Rangers would’ve been willing to go to 1x1 or 2x1 even to re-sign him considering they clearly like him. This is two summers in a row he didn’t sign until a week before training camp for much lower than he was apparently looking for.
Sure, I couldn’t care less about not bringing him back. He was fine and I liked his wheels but he’s a dime a dozen player. Just my observations on his situation.
Which would be absurd anyway but knowing the flat cap situation and that next year the cap will go up so he’s be better poised for a better paying deal. Even then he won’t get a 2m AAV so again, that goes to my point about his agents. Need to be realistic especially in this current cap climate.
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What really stood out to me about Motte was his possession-philosophy especially on the PK. It was a breath of fresh air when he was on the ice and, when the situation allowed for it, held on to the puck for a bit longer killing off valuable seconds. It also made opponents more cautious and helped neuter their PP.
However, that alone isn't reason enough for me to get up in arms about losing him. He was a good 4th liner but if you want to be a contender, you have to develop these guys yourself.
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I liked Motte and do believe if he was willing to sign for $800k here in NY (which we don’t know) then he was a better option than Pitlick.
But oh well no big deal. Moving on.
But oh well no big deal. Moving on.
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They both fill a 4th line role at this point, each can handle the 6 mins they'll get here, I'm not exactly sure why people are so enamored with Motte. For all the ice time he'll get here , he's easily replaced.
Cuylle scored 20 goals in the AHL in his 1st pro season, wasting him on the 4th line is a mistake. He has more than Tanner Glass potential.
Not true at all. I’ve played LW my entire life. I can’t play the right side for shit. Obviously I’m not a pro but I have played with and against fairly high players.
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I agree he's got potential, but he's not jumping into the top 9 right away, not on this team. The AHL isn't a good marker for what a someome will do when they make the jump, Brodzinski had 21 goals last year.
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I honestly have no idea why people have a problem playing either side, it's just basically using your iq to play the position and adjusting where you shoot from and how you play pucks off the wall . Lafreniere, Kreider, Panarin, they're all good enough to switch sides, problem is that none of them want to except for Lafreniere, but Gallant wouldn't let him get used to the right side before he pulled him. I've always prefered my off wing, but I've played all 3 forward positions growing up, outside of faceoffs there's little difference once you know where you're supposed to be.
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