Roster Building Thread: Part VII (2023-24)

[UnSandvich]

There's someone on the trade boards trying to push for a Zucc return to the Rangers. Take a wild guess who that is hahaha

 

[haohmaru]

There's someone on the trade boards trying to push for a Zucc return to the Rangers. Take a wild guess who that is hahaha

We... no, I won't do it.

 

[RangersFan1994]

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[RGY]

Love Zucc but would rather have Kane @ $2-$3 million on a 1 year deal than to pay Minnesota the insane cost to retain 50% and acquire him.

 

[TGWL]

I wouldn't hate if PP2 got to start a power play once a game when the PP1 guys had just had a long shift. I think it happened like twice last year in the games I saw.

They probably would get that opportunity if we were in a position where the game wasn't tied, we were losing by a goal, or barely winning.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

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[TGWL]

We can talk about usage but his teammates are getting the exact same usage. The next Ranger on the list who was with the Rangers all three years is Chris Kreider and he ranks 38th.

If you want to include anybody who played on the team, it's Ryan Strome at 136th. If you want to include a guy that only really played on PP2, it's Pavel Buchnevich who managed to get to 76th despite playing on our second unit.

In 20-21, on our second unit, Buchnevich had 8 points. Running joke Colin Blackwell had 5. Lafreniere had zero in more minutes than Blackwell.

On his own team, Lafreniere sits in his own dimension. Nobody else on our second unit (Kakko, Trouba, Chytil) played enough minutes to quality for the list, which goes to show that Lafreniere is playing on the powerplay more than you think he is. He just historically sucks at it.

I think 4 of those came with pp#1 players. But I agree, I haven't seen Laf do anything on the powerplay that gives me the impression he'd be a good option, yet.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Where has Laf played on the PP? What position?

 

[Webster]

There's someone on the trade boards trying to push for a Zucc return to the Rangers. Take a wild guess who that is hahaha

I'm not pushing anything. I just brought it up because it was reported by The Hockey News that he's a possible trade target for the Rangers.

I normally wouldn't react to it, but it makes sense in many ways, looks like you could use a RW who puts up 60+ points a season. Teams have cap issues, but Zucc at age 36 will come cheaper. $2M of his salary this season is signing bonus, should make a trade easier?

If Drury brings him back I guess it should help your marketing department, as Zucc still seems to be loved by most NYR fans.

 

[SA16]

I'm not pushing anything. I just brought it up because it was reported by The Hockey News that he's a possible trade target for the Rangers.

I normally wouldn't react to it, but it makes sense in many ways, looks like you could use a RW who puts up 60+ points a season. Teams have cap issues, but Zucc at age 36 will come cheaper. $2M of his salary this season is signing bonus, should make a trade easier?

If Drury brings him back I guess it should help your marketing department, as Zucc still seems to be loved by most NYR fans.

Zucc would not want to come back to the Rangers after how they treated him. Trading all his friends away. Then trading him when he wanted to sign an extension and not leave.

 

[frozenrubber]

I'm not pushing anything. I just brought it up because it was reported by The Hockey News that he's a possible trade target for the Rangers.

I normally wouldn't react to it, but it makes sense in many ways, looks like you could use a RW who puts up 60+ points a season. Teams have cap issues, but Zucc at age 36 will come cheaper. $2M of his salary this season is signing bonus, should make a trade easier?

If Drury brings him back I guess it should help your marketing department, as Zucc still seems to be loved by most NYR fans.

After his signing bonus (which was probably July 1st), Zuccarello's 2023-24 actual salary will be 3M. However, that only matters to internal budget teams, he still counts 6M towards any teams' cap unless Minnesota retains.

 

[TominNC]

Kane is coming back. Mentally prepare yourself.

So we can rearrange everything for an old former star from another team. Oh joy

 

[Webster]

Zucc would not want to come back to the Rangers after how they treated him. Trading all his friends away. Then trading him when he wanted to sign an extension and not leave.

Time heals wounds. There's very little left of the 2019 Rangers, except his buddies Kreider and Zibanejad. And Drury wasn't the GM who called him at 10pm and told him to pack his bags and take a 4am flight to Chicago and join the Stars there.

I'm sure Zucc will never forget the standing ovation NYR fans gave him, first time he was back at MSG in a Wild jersey.

After his signing bonus (which was probably July 1st), Zuccarello's 2023-24 actual salary will be 3M. However, that only matters to internal budget teams, he still counts 6M towards any teams' cap unless Minnesota retains.

Yeah, heard that a trade was easier with a signing bonus involved. Don't understand why.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

I'm not pushing anything. I just brought it up because it was reported by The Hockey News that he's a possible trade target for the Rangers.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

They probably would get that opportunity if we were in a position where the game wasn't tied, we were losing by a goal, or barely winning.

They didn't however. I remember a game where we were up 4-0, 5-0 in the 3rd and Gallant kept trotting out PP1. There was multiple times throughout the year to do it and he didn't.

It probably doesn't matter. Their only play was pass back to Trouba for the big strong 95 mph slapshot that never did much.

 

[huerter]

I wouldn't hate if PP2 got to start a power play once a game when the PP1 guys had just had a long shift. I think it happened like twice last year in the games I saw.

The PP1 guys are on two different lines and probably are finishing a shift like 75% of the time a penalty is drawn.

 

[RGY]

So we can rearrange everything for an old former star from another team. Oh joy

He scored at a 0.78 PPG pace on one hip. With the repaired hip? Say he has limited PP time. I still have him at 0.60 PPG output. He has always been clutch. I would take him at that on the 3rd line.

 

[Machinehead]

Zuccarello is a RW who's elite at passing and puts up a ton of points at even strength.

It would be a great fit even if his fanbase is annoying.

 

[RGY]

Zuccarello is a RW who's elite at passing and puts up a ton of points at even strength.

It would be a great fit even if his fanbase is annoying.

We cannot afford his fit. That’s the issue.

 

[Machinehead]

We cannot afford his fit. That’s the issue.

Sure, and I don't know if I'm moving mountains to fit Zuccarello in, that's a fair a point.

 

[Synergy27]

He scored at a 0.78 PPG pace on one hip. With the repaired hip? Say he has limited PP time. I still have him at 0.60 PPG output. He has always been clutch. I would take him at that on the 3rd line.

A one dimensional power play specialist playing in the third line. What could go wrong?

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Zuccarello is a RW who's elite at passing and puts up a ton of points at even strength.

It would be a great fit even if his fanbase is annoying.

Meh…

I could put up a ton of points playing with Kaprizov…

 

[RGY]

A one dimensional power play specialist playing in the third line. What could go wrong?

PP specialist? This guy has scored a ton at ES in his career…. Sure his numbers would be adjusted if he was getting PP2 minutes, which we know would be a limited amount, but he would clearly still be a talented threat at ES. You can never have enough of talented depth.

 

[egelband]

I'm sure y'all have other interests and hobbies. Ever think to yourself that this is the only one where you can't control the outcome?

Good point. The way some people get worked up, you’d think they had real skin in the game.

It’s just entertainment.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

If Zuc comes back it's most likely next summer on a short deal (Wheeler replacement). He'd easily revert back to a 50 point player.

He was pretty good at times yet everyone treated him like a first ballot HOFer and when he was traded it was a little over the top.