Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVII - Holding a Lead for Dummies (Info in OP)

[NYblades]

He will find himself in Lias limbo to start. After that who knows

Saw this article:

A source indicated the Rangers are "hopeful for a better resolution."

What does that mean? There are two logical options.

The first is find a trade partner. The Rangers would have to eat a sizable chunk of the money owed to DeAngelo, which works out to an average annual value of $4.8 million, and they couldn't expect much in return. But if they can pull it off, it would provide the most immediate path to moving on.

The other option is to keep DeAngelo off the active NHL roster — essentially sending him home for the rest of the season — and then buy him out this summer.

In that scenario, the Rangers would shave $1.075 million off this year's salary cap charge for DeAngelo while still being on the hook for $3.725 million. That's not ideal, but it would provide a little more cap wiggle room. And once they're able to buy out the contract, the cap hits would be manageable at $383,333 for the 2021-22 season and $883,333 in 2022-23, according to CapFriendly.

Tony DeAngelo clears waivers: What's next for him and the NY Rangers?

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Que the virtue signaling and cancel culture.

 

[Machinehead]

I'm sure it's absolutely not in good faith, but it might be misguided political infighting rather than racism. Stemming back to some of the very conversations that have taken place on this board, some on the right feel persecuted as a result of the race debates happening in this country right now and push back against the direction of those debates could be both divisive and harmful in a locker room context without being motivated by racism. Again given the reports that he apparently has no issue with Miller but apparently a pretty big one with Georgiev would lead me to believe this is a political divide not a racial one. Still Tony being stupid and he deserves the blame, though.

Sources have confirmed his comments were motivated by race relations. He has a proven history of slurs and abuse. He has a long-rumored history of racism.

The puck has been rifled into the back of the net on this one and we're still trying to see if it completely crossed the line.

 

[Kovalev27]

At the end of the day again let’s remember this is not a first time offense this is a last straw offense as deemed by the organization.

Tony isn’t the victim here in any way shape or form. Very obvious he’s had multiple opportunities to figure it out but refuses too because his belief system is literally to feel aggrieved at all times for everything. So reprimanding him most likely played into that more than helped solve anything

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Even at half his salary I have trouble believing a GM would want to being trouble into their locker room, unless they are in support of his views.

 

[Machinehead]

Que the virtue signaling and cancel culture.

For all this talk of getting cancelled, we have a bunch of people on here who won't even be convinced his actions were malicious.

 

[Fitzy]

Que the virtue signaling and cancel culture.

I found his thread ridiculous but that's just one media guy mouthing off. It's not an indication that ADA has been treated unfairly at all.

Yeah this writer is a jackass, but there's no reason why that should be a distraction from whats going on here.

 

[Sayba]

At the end of the day again let’s remember this is not a first time offense this is a last straw offense as deemed by the organization.

Tony isn’t the victim here in any way shape or form. Very obvious he’s had multiple opportunities to figure it out but refuses too because his belief system is literally to feel aggrieved at all times for everything. So reprimanding him most likely played into that more than helped solve anything

Weren't most of if not all the issues before he was on the Rangers?

 

[MrAlmost]

As I said before, this could well be grounds for termination of contract since the evidence is starting to point to harassment of a specific player due to race, people told him to stop, and he continued. I would venture a guess that DeAngelo is done in this league.

 

[Kakko]

Feel like a lot of this is speculation wanting the situation to be worse than it could be. Not sure why anyone wants that, but alright.

fwiw, everyone seems to still be following Tony on Instagram, and vice versa. Gonna keep an eye on it.

 

[Kovalev27]

Weren't most of if not all the issues before he was on the Rangers?

from what’s been reported their have been numerous issues in just the last few months!

I mean we’re 8 games in and he’s already been pressboxed for not taking his benching well (we don’t know what more went into that) and obviously this fight

but we also know from reports he’s been in trouble for his tweets and interactions with fans over the past few months including inviting a fan to meet him in the MSG parking lot to fight.

I’m not even talking about last year or his junior antics. This is the immediate past!

 

[17futurecap]

Maybe with the 1 million savings with Tony on the taxi squad they can not shuttle the kids to the taxi squad on off days and pay them their nhl salary.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I found his thread ridiculous but that's just one media guy mouthing off. It's not an indication that ADA has been treated unfairly at all.

Yeah this writer is a jackass, but there's no reason why that should be a distraction from whats going on here.

I agree. Just ticked me off, going after the entire org because of one moron.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

As I said before, this could well be grounds for termination of contract since the evidence is starting to point to harassment of a specific player due to race, people told him to stop, and he continued. I would venture a guess that DeAngelo is done in this league.

We don't know the full terms of his latest contract. Given his history I wonder if its A) possible to include behavioral restrictions into the language or B) if the CBA/NHLPA would even agree or allow to include such language.

However, if there are some specific stipulations within all NHL contracts that the Rangers can tap into to void the contract you would have to think they would need to supply ample evidence of such to do so.

 

[RGY]

Feel like a lot of this is speculation wanting the situation to be worse than it could be. Not sure why anyone wants that, but alright.

fwiw, everyone seems to still be following Tony on Instagram, and vice versa. Gonna keep an eye on it.

This is spot on for the Tony DeAngelo haters. Couldn’t have described it better. The hate for this young man runs so deep that we are conjuring up things such as he must be a racist because he used a homophobic slur as a teenager in the OHL. Must be. That group will do anything to destroy the young man even though there has been nothing to suggest such egregious claims. You would think after all these years, and ESPECIALLY in the current landscape of the country/society, that there would be multiple former teammates and opposing players coming out to bring Tony down with past incidents. You would think they would jump at the opportunity if he was such a terrible person and offended them.

The fans that want to see the demise of this young man are no better than DeAngelo and his devoted beliefs and opinions.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

A lot of teams flat out can't claim him because they'd be over the salary cap.

So in theory if NYR retained half, there might be some interested parties.

That said, there are some teams that could have taken him at his full hit, and that no one did isn't a promising sign about how he's seen around the league. I mean look at it from the perspective of one of the teams with cap space- he's a free asset, RFA at contract's end, and is coming off a huge season.

And to be clear, the number wasn't 3-4, it was closer to 12. People need to look at Tony's current cap hit vs. the team's current cap space. Teams have more space, and Tony costs less, than they did at the beginning of the season.

 

[Zibanejbread]

Gonna miss Tony D, but have to do what's best for the team. Curious to see what comes next and hopefully this sparks the team to go on a little run now.

 

[bobbop]

Trouba and Miller do come out of this really well.

Partners on and off the ice.

As it should be.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I';ll post this again

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FOUR teams can take Denagelo's full contract right now. Those 4 teams passed on him... The other 26 teams may still be intersted, but not at $4.8M

Check your math. All the numbers should be CURRENT cap hit. Approximately a third of the league could have claimed him. Probably more with minor moves to make room.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Feel like a lot of this is speculation wanting the situation to be worse than it could be. Not sure why anyone wants that, but alright.

fwiw, everyone seems to still be following Tony on Instagram, and vice versa. Gonna keep an eye on it.

Because people are generally disappointed when things aren't super complex and dramatic. It doesn't allow them to beat their self-righteous chest. Chalking it up to "Tony is a dick and this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone" isn't going to be enough.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Does anyone know when media availability is today? Quinn said they would talk about it more, even if I'm sure it'll just be coachspeak

 

[BondraTime]

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[Fitzy]

Gonna miss Tony D, but have to do what's best for the team. Curious to see what comes next and hopefully this sparks the team to go on a little run now.

We need a 3-4 game winning streak in the worst possible way.

 

[Levitate]

Remember when guys doing things like Tony is doing were just considered pieces of shit and everyone agreed and moved on?

Now you got this both sides whataboutism for everything. Even for hockey players.

“What about georgiev?”

“Tony’s not a cancer teams like him I’m going to Ignore everything I know about them not wanting him for free or in a trade even though he’s a super talented player and believe that because hes like me”

“Cuomo and the lockdowns caused this rage”

No sorry at some point people have to start taking responsibility for their actions again.

yeah this his hilarious and sad. This is on DeAngelo, locker rooms and teammates and organizations don't just give up on a player like this at the drop of a hat. He made himself unwelcome with the Rangers and pushed across lines until everyone said enough. This is him.

even if you're sympathizing with his political views and thinks that's why he was booted you gotta realize hockey is one of the most conservative right leaning sports and there are undoubtedly many on the Rangers who share most of even all of his views and he STILL pissed off enough people that they want him gone.

I'm sure it's absolutely not in good faith, but it might be misguided political infighting rather than racism. Stemming back to some of the very conversations that have taken place on this board, some on the right feel persecuted as a result of the race debates happening in this country right now and push back against the direction of those debates could be both divisive and harmful in a locker room context without being motivated by racism. Again given the reports that he apparently has no issue with Miller but apparently a pretty big one with Georgiev would lead me to believe this is a political divide not a racial one. Still Tony being stupid and he deserves the blame, though.

It doesn't f***ing matter. Stop excusing this shit. Regardless of his views it was becoming an issue in the locker room, he was asked to stop and to leave that shit at the door and he refused. If he and some teammates want to get together separately for some political debate that's fine but "on hte job" is not the time and everyone apparently got sick of it and he was gfiven multiple chances to stop.

 

[Kakko]

Does anyone know when media availability is today? Quinn said they would talk about it more, even if I'm sure it'll just be coachspeak

Vince said nothing til 5:30

No guarantee they talk about it then either, imo