Dr. Ogrodnick
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I'll take Edge's sources over your biased beliefs.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVII - Holding a Lead for Dummies (Info in OP)
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TominNC
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Big difference between Tony using his last straw and Georgiev, as far as we know, with his first offense. I would expect that he was spoken to and told not to resort to physical altercations.
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17futurecap
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More like the dog did a bunch of shitty things, the owner told him to stop, and then the dog bit a person in the face and had to be put down.
Bottom line is if this was one incident then DeAngelo wouldn't have been put on waivers and the team wouldn't be done with him. If it was one "he got in an altercation with his teammate" they would have dealt with it in the room and smoothed things over. DeAngelo isn't gone because Georgiev swung at him and he retaliated. He's not being punished for something Georgiev did. There's been ongoing issues and he was specifically warned by Gorton to stop it and stay clean and he didn't.
Again if DeAngelo was just a regular ol' player with no history and no ongoing issues with the team and management then this whole thing wouldn't have happened this way. He's gone because of ongoing issues of which this incident was just the latest.
e: from what we've been told management and the coaches have also been trying to work with DeAngelo on this kind of stuff for his tenure here, they've been trying to help him and "train him" so to speak, but someone has to want to be helped and DeAngelo clearly hasn't wanted that
Again if DeAngelo was just a regular ol' player with no history and no ongoing issues with the team and management then this whole thing wouldn't have happened this way. He's gone because of ongoing issues of which this incident was just the latest.
e: from what we've been told management and the coaches have also been trying to work with DeAngelo on this kind of stuff for his tenure here, they've been trying to help him and "train him" so to speak, but someone has to want to be helped and DeAngelo clearly hasn't wanted that
TheBloodyNine
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When there are reports that Tony started it physically:
MAKES SENSE, plus it's typical for him because he's a racist!
When there are reports that Georgiev struck first:
So what? Tony said a bad word to him and hurt his feelings after having a horrendous game!
See how that works?
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Probably some ire about being putatively moved up to the first pair, which he may have seen as offsetting your point #1, but then being demoted immediately back down to third pair before even getting a chance.
TominNC
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As childish as giving shit to your goalie after losing a game? Come on, hockey is a game where fighting is ALLOWED. These guys are brought up to only take so much. I'm sure Georgiev was given a talking to
NYRFANMANI
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No.
It's like an untrained dog, that got his leash shortened, lashed out once to often and is now going to be brought back to the shelter.
We shouldn't talk about the possibility, that the dog was partially trained by a fraud though.
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Please make trade soon. Please make trade soon. 
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Crease
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There was almost certainly tension between ADA and Georgiev before this episode. And I doubt that tension existed because of anything Georgiev has done.
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3. The Rangers have made it clear they will eat salary to facilitate a Tony DeAngelo trade. GM Jeff Gorton provided clarity on why DeAngelo was cut: The organization felt DeAngelo “wasn’t able to move on” from his early-season benching and warned him one more incident would be the end of his tenure. That came Saturday night, after the 5–4 overtime loss to Pittsburgh. DeAngelo delivered a sarcastic, cutting comment to Alexandar Georgiev in the aftermath of that defeat. The goalie clocked DeAngelo before the two were separated, and the decision to put him on waivers was made that night.
New York will try to trade him, but it’s not going to be easy. Any acquiring team knows there will be heat. Gorton indicated the Rangers currently are not pursuing a termination of DeAngelo’s contract, and it appears unlikely they’d be able to do it unless the player agreed, for whatever reason. Since he does not turn 26 until October, he can be bought out for one-third of the $5.3-million salary on his contract for 2021–22.
3. The Rangers have made it clear they will eat salary to facilitate a Tony DeAngelo trade. GM Jeff Gorton provided clarity on why DeAngelo was cut: The organization felt DeAngelo “wasn’t able to move on” from his early-season benching and warned him one more incident would be the end of his tenure. That came Saturday night, after the 5–4 overtime loss to Pittsburgh. DeAngelo delivered a sarcastic, cutting comment to Alexandar Georgiev in the aftermath of that defeat. The goalie clocked DeAngelo before the two were separated, and the decision to put him on waivers was made that night.
New York will try to trade him, but it’s not going to be easy. Any acquiring team knows there will be heat. Gorton indicated the Rangers currently are not pursuing a termination of DeAngelo’s contract, and it appears unlikely they’d be able to do it unless the player agreed, for whatever reason. Since he does not turn 26 until October, he can be bought out for one-third of the $5.3-million salary on his contract for 2021–22.
DutchShamrock
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Honestly, it would be very interesting. He is outspoken and supportive of LGBT causes. This recent event made me think of that incident against the Isles with the homophobic slur and gesture, on TV, that resulted in I believe a 2 game suspension for Wisnewski. 8 games for one statement, 2 for another. Today, I imagine it's a reversal. With the other situation resulting in rehab and a defacto season long suspension. I don't know if we could accurately predict how Avery would far today.
Back then Avery or today Avery? Today Avery...I don't know. Strikes as a MAGA, considering some of his socials content. Could be wrong.
Fitzy
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Seems almost like it'd be better asset management to sit on ADA and buy him out at season's end rather than trade him at half salary, unless we could actually get something of value for him.
2.6 mil next year is worse than 800k for the two following years
2.6 mil next year is worse than 800k for the two following years
I'm pretty confident they'll only move him for something they feel is valuable. Whether the fans feel that is valuable is another story all together. If they can't get something worthwhile, they'll probably just send him home for the year assuming the NHLPA doesn't throw a tantrum about it.
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