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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVI - On the Brink of Wasteland

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Geeze. This is not the way the start of the season was supposed to go.

But I will say this: No reason to keep an A Hole in the room when you are trying to build a winner.

You can complain about the coaching and the asset management. All fair. ADA made his own bed. Plenty of chances. Unfortunate situation all around.

The difference with Anthony now is he went after a teammate or incited the altercation in some way. You can’t have that go undisciplined. If it was a one off you let it go. We don’t know if this hasn’t happened multiple times in some form. The guy excels at being a dick. That isn’t what this franchise is about.

So. Final straw. Good bye. I’d draw the line there too given his history and repeated chances to get it together. He is a child. The Rangers did everything they could including showing trust in him by giving him a new deal worth millions. He violated that trust and that is squarely on him.

A shame for sure. The kid is very talented. Hopefully he is claimed and he will becomes someone else’s problem.
 
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smoneil said:
Same. But we went to college. People think that kids become more socially liberal in college because professors brainwash them. As a professor, I've got to tell you, if I had the power of brainwashing, I'd use it to make sure the students actually did the reading, haha. When you come from a town like mine (with no, or maybe one "token" race other than white), college QUICKLY dispels all of the assumptions about race that we were raised to have. Most of these kids didn't go to college. They went to juniors and then the minors of the whitest sport on the planet. That's not excusing it, but there are teaching moments and there are "you are dead to me moments" and--as a gay man--if I always opted for that latter option, I wouldn't have all that many people left to talk to, haha.
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FACTS!!!

I can't even get these people to do homework and folks think I indoctrinate them.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Avery was the last guy I remember where we, as a board, just couldn't stick to his on-ice contributions. Like Avery, I think this one is also coming to an abrupt resolution.
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Avery took a different trajectory though. I thought he was some insta-rocket fuel for a morass veteran team when he first came through. I dont think you'll find a fan that lamented about him in that first run/playoff run. Then the warts started to show. I disliked him more and more as time went by, but he always just seemed to come off as an aloof dude always in it for himself. The one thing him and DeAngelo have in common is they don't know how to turn off the A-hole switch.
 
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SA16 said:
Not it isn't. The PA would not allow a contract to be terminated because a player doesn't get along with his teammates.
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Pretty sure they haven’t written the employment contract that can survive physically assaulting a co-worker on company property (should mgmt press the issue), especially nowadays. We’ll see.
 
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Buchnevich89 said:
Do you? I’m going based off the fact there’s zero evidence of what you’re suggesting. Quite the opposite actually.

-Tony said he is more open to listening to black people about BLM
-He defended K’Andre and said he’s more than welcome on the team after the zoom call incident with the fan calling K’Andre a racial slur
-Even something minor like getting the puck out of the net for K’Andre and being visibly ecstatic for him after his first goal
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And the fact that if you look through his Instagram comments he is friends with basically every Black teammate he’s ever had (Anthony Duclair, Justin Bailey, Josh Ho-Sang, Seth & Caleb Jones, etc) they comment on each other’s posts all the time. Plus there were no POC on Sarnia when he said a slur to a teammate as a child, it was very unlikely anything race related. It broke a policy that includes homophobia, sexism, etc. There is no precedent here, other than the one created by the reddit/twitter mob who one look at their bios are clearly politically motivated, write fanfic about how Miller must want to punch Tony out. I’m sure they’d assume I hate Tony too since I’m a POC and they generalize people based on race. Man I feel for Miller, the kid is playing lights out and people are talking about his race and imagining him fighting with DeAngelo.
 
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“ I don’t want to get into specifics. In 24 hours we’ll probably be able to be more specific and address the situation differently.”

Telling quote from Quinn out of the Athletic
 
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Lindberg Cheese said:
Pretty sure they haven’t written the employment contract that can survive physically assaulting a co-worker on company property (should mgmt press the issue), especially nowadays. We’ll see.
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Well all the reports/rumors had stated he was the one who was assaulted not the other way around (though Edge says the whole punch thing didn't even happen).
 
Edge said:
To this point, ADA's personal life and beliefs have been separate from his locker room interactions.

In recent weeks, there has been a breach of that separation. The problem is that it's been...abrasive and causing problems behind the scenes. To this point, it's been an annoyance. But last night's altercation apparently goes beyond just Georgiev.

It was the way he went after Georgiev, and the way he reacted to those who jumped into separate them. The latter almost led to another altercation in the locker room.

Basically, Tony is f***ed because he cannot control himself and now it has become a locker room issue.

As for the state of the Rangers, views around the league are nowhere near as bleak as the board.
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Everybody is pissed and stressed over the pandemic situation. Everybody needs to calm down.
 
Quinn after the game..
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Lindberg Cheese said:
Pretty sure they haven’t written the employment contract that can survive physically assaulting a co-worker on company property (should mgmt press the issue), especially nowadays. We’ll see.
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If it was a scuffle, pushing and shoving, I can't really see any way a termination would be possible. There'd have to be a lot more to it than that. Scuffling between teammates isn't terribly uncommon.

I think for this to rise to the level of a termination, it would have to be like when IK Enemkpali cold-cocked Geno Smith out of nowhere and broke his jaw. Obviously there are no guaranteed contracts in the NFL so that was an automatic, but just talking about that kind of scenario--an actual physical assault, not just a shouting match turning physical or a shove or something like that. The NHLPA would fight that tooth and nail and pretty likely win.
 
RGY said:
And those two individuals were?


This really throws a wrench into the TDA to Calgary trade possibilities we had gone through in the offseason
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Can't confirm the second one, but I know that right as they got into it, someone shouted "Oh my God...That's Henrik Lundqvist's ring music!" :)
 
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I’m wondering if Gorts asked around the league to see if there was any interest in claiming him on the wire, after offering him up in a trade.

Maybe they knew he would have a suitor or two if it came to this.

If I had to bet I’d say he would go unclaimed, which basically tells you all you need to know
 
smoneil said:
As a professor, I've got to tell you, if I had the power of brainwashing, I'd use it to make sure the students actually did the reading, haha.
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I’ve spent 6 years at Rutgers University - New Brunswick. Very liberal. The amount of brainwashing is crazy. And students listen. They really do. People have no idea. You’re one professor. I’ve dealt with 50+. Just because you don’t try to brainwash anyone, doesn’t mean others don’t. It’s very subtle, but hey, if I was a professor myself, I might try to impose my world view on my students too.
 
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Tony definitely has some anger issues. Why would you bark to your teammates after loss? Blaming others is a great way to lower moral of the whole team. And now if he has turned against even those guys who came to stop the whole thing makes Tony look uncontrollable, mad and what else.

E: I really don't pity the guy. He has privilege to play in the best hockey league in the world, and make some nice money, and now he is ruining it with bad temper and anger issues.

Good riddance!
 
nyr2k2 said:
Avery was the last guy I remember where we, as a board, just couldn't stick to his on-ice contributions. Like Avery, I think this one is also coming to an abrupt resolution.
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It's tough--both players have been as defined by their persona/history as they have been by what they do on the ice. It's like trying to talk about Trump but banning references to what he posts on Twitter, or trying to talk about the Knicks but banning any references to the owner of the team. Those things are all so tightly interwoven that you really can't discuss one without the other. Going wholesale towards the one side of things (like talking about politics without any reference to how they relate to the situation with ADA) is a problem, but generally, I haven't seen a lot of people doing that.
 
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