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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVI - On the Brink of Wasteland

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DutchShamrock said:
That is so vague and open to interpretation. We assume Tony started it, but it could easily be Georgie confronting him for the body language and shoving him first. It could be Geo crossing a line followed by a disproportionate response from ADA. It could be Tony instigating it totally and Geo is totally the victim. But right now people are letting their bias bleed into their interpretation of very vague reports.
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Jesus Christ with the bias shit. You think the team put him on waivers over one fight? are your brains this broken that you think JD and Gorton were infiltrated by haters and tricked into this?

why is this so hard for many of you to grasp. If he became more trouble than he’s worth, and you guys think he’s worth so much, imagine how much bullshit the team put up with already.

All of the stories citing his long term behavior and the fact that the team, with all of the evidence including tons we don’t have, decided to WAIVE him means people’s dislike for him somehow controlled this situation?
 
Tob said:
BREAKING: Camera man who had serious BEEF with Lias Andersson, did he intentionally trip Lias and doom his NHL career with the Rangers? The camera man is now breaking his silence to speak with Regis Phylbin at 8
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Regis really is prolific to still be doing interviews 8 months after dying.
 
NYRangers16 said:
Given that an A punched him in the face, clearly there is tolerance for all sorts of things. I can send money to a neutral party if you do. People are so dismissing of this like they have some personal inability to reconcile it as possible. Why would a white supremacist, racist, homophobe ever treat our one minority player badly?

The resistance to this is scary. Poor TDA being treated unfairly with rumors and fake news... lol.

Put your money up or wait to see.
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100 bucks (or what ever amount you wish) to any of NHL's Hockey is for Everyone charities.

Hell when nothing else comes out, I'll match what ever you put up.

Also, the reason why you're getting push back and there is "resistance" is because these claims are totally baseless and you're jumping to conclusions with out any solid evidence.
 
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Edge said:
To this point, ADA's personal life and beliefs have been separate from his locker room interactions.

In recent weeks, there has been a breach of that separation. The problem is that it's been...abrasive and causing problems behind the scenes. To this point, it's been an annoyance. But last night's altercation apparently goes beyond just Georgiev.

It was the way he went after Georgiev, and the way he reacted to those who jumped into separate them. The latter almost led to another altercation in the locker room.

Basically, Tony is f***ed because he cannot control himself and now it has become a locker room issue.

As for the state of the Rangers, views around the league are nowhere near as bleak as the board.
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Are you able to confirm if Kreider clocked him?

And any of the more intimate details like how he reacted or what was said?
 
Edge said:
To this point, ADA's personal life and beliefs have been separate from his locker room interactions.

In recent weeks, there has been a breach of that separation. The problem is that it's been...abrasive and causing problems behind the scenes. To this point, it's been an annoyance. But last night's altercation apparently goes beyond just Georgiev.

It was the way he went after Georgiev, and the way he reacted to those who jumped into separate them. The latter almost led to another altercation in the locker room.

Basically, Tony is f***ed because he cannot control himself and now it has become a locker room issue.

As for the state of the Rangers, views around the league are nowhere near as bleak as the board.
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Really thought this guy turned the corner, but an a-hole rarely changes his stripes.
 
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NYRangers16 said:
Given that an A punched him in the face, clearly there is tolerance for all sorts of things. I can send money to a neutral party if you do. People are so dismissing of this like they have some personal inability to reconcile it as possible. Why would a white supremacist, racist, homophobe ever treat our one minority player badly?

The resistance to this is scary. Poor TDA being treated unfairly with rumors and fake news... lol.

Put your money up or wait to see.
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Oh look another unsubstantiated claim that you are trying to pass off as a fact.

Take a hike dude.
 
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Edge said:
To this point, ADA's personal life and beliefs have been separate from his locker room interactions.

In recent weeks, there has been a breach of that separation. The problem is that it's been...abrasive and causing problems behind the scenes. To this point, it's been an annoyance. But last night's altercation apparently goes beyond just Georgiev.

It was the way he went after Georgiev, and the way he reacted to those who jumped into separate them. The latter almost led to another altercation in the locker room.

Basically, Tony is f***ed because he cannot control himself and now it has become a locker room issue.

As for the state of the Rangers, views around the league are nowhere near as bleak as the board.
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See now THIS sounds legitimate. Especially the bolded.
 
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Edge said:
Kreider did not clock him. But the two individuals who broke up the altercation nearly got into with him.

That did not do him any favors.
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And those two individuals were?


This really throws a wrench into the TDA to Calgary trade possibilities we had gone through in the offseason
 
Machinehead said:
Do I also believe DeAngelo would potentially do that? Also yes.
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ANYONE can potentially do that. Even if he does feel a certain way about K’Andre (which I’m 100% certain he doesn’t), there’s no way he’s dumb enough to say it out loud. His life would be over, and rightfully so. This is a very bold claim. The dude is an asshole. He got waived BECAUSE he’s an asshole. Nothing more, nothing less. If more evidence comes out, then I’m with you, but for now, that’s an unfair claim.

I’ll get back to you on the other thing later. It’s very long lol
 
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Buchnevich89 said:
ANYONE can potentially do that. Even if he does feel a certain way about K’Andre (which I’m 100% certain he doesn’t), there’s no way he’s dumb enough to say it out loud. His life would be over. This is a very bold claim. The dude is an asshole. He got waived BECAUSE he’s an asshole. Nothing more, nothing less. If more evidence comes out, then I’m with you, but for now, that’s an unfair claim.

I’ll get back to you on the other thing later. It’s very long lol
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Anyone could, yes, but it's always him.
 
It’s pretty predictable what happened. Tony had his off ice beliefs but as Edge said they were kept out of the room. He’s playing great and everyone is happy. Then as time goes by it starts to seep in to the room and guys who were happy letting things go and just rolling their eyes and shrugging it off, now have been doing that for 2 years and it’s been building up. Then Tony starts playing like shit, has an altercation because he’s frustrated and can’t contain himself and his teammates who have been building up their anger at him for 2 years worth of looking past things now explode. It was a powder keg ready to blow.

That’s what happens when you have a toxic person in the room who isn’t really doing anything to address his behavior but more so just pushing it down and the team putting significant onus on his teammates to not focus on that stuff. You can’t tell me all of his tweeting doesn’t get added to a bank of frustration in the minds of guys like Kreider and Trouba and Mika. Like even if they like Tony it’s very easy to see how this situation of resentment can build up and Tony not doing as much to control himself bc he’s frustrated and the teammates now not biting their tongue bc they’re frustrated with all the losing. And the incident with Georgiev is like lighting the match and tossing it on the wood pile.
 
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Glen Sathers Cigar said:
What I can’t get over is that Tony had the constant off ice headaches that were all completely avoidable. Like I’m not even talking about what his opinions are or aren’t but if the organization tells you to stop tweeting or only tweet hockey stuff, the 9 million dollar contract you just signed and your standing as an NHL player, something you worked your whole life for, isn’t enough for you to stop tweeting? Every time you say something stupid online it makes the organization get that much more fed up with you. So it’s like a million little cuts.

If I worked my entire life to be an NHL player, broke through and had a breakout year and signed a 9 million dollar contract and was warned multiple times and give tons of second chances you can bet your ass that I would not ever tweet and I would be a model citizen in the locker room. It’s ridiculous the immaturity Tony has displayed. And the organization has given him tons of chances.
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100% agree with this, but for some people they don't look at it that way, and once they get something that makes them feel validated, like a big contract, it makes them feel like they no longer need to listen and that they're above the instructions that they're being given. Who knows if that happened in this situation, but it's definitely obvious that for as good as he can be on the ice the organization no longer gives a crap and they don't want them here anymore.
 
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