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Name them...haven't seen anyone say that here.
I spent twenty minutes searching the archives (not exhaustively), found four people calling for a five year deal and another two calling for a four year deal. At least one person okay with 7x7 (holy f***ing shit). Not going to blast them, but theyre out there.

EDIT: Maybe I'll post just one:
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Bobby Mac with an update on Tony.

Doubt its anything new

I won't be shocked if DeAngelo trade happens at the draft. what team would want to trade for him knowing he hasn't played competitive hockey lately. the longer teams wait, the less chance of him getting dealt at the deadline
 
I won't be shocked if DeAngelo trade happens at the draft. what team would want to trade for him knowing he hasn't played competitive hockey lately. the longer teams wait, the less chance of him getting dealt at the deadline
There’s also the expansion draft. I can’t see us protecting him at all.
 
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I was told today that the Rangers have had conversations about DeAngelo with the LA Kings. No further derails available.
Dont even know how we line up there.

Gorton has said he wont take back a bad contract. Bobby Mac dropped a small bit in intermission about how his agent Pat Brisson is based in LA. Was he hinting something? Either way I dont know what we would be looking for from LAK
 
I'm really looking forward to the teams future, I really like Mika, just how he snap out of whatever is wrong with him, if not, maybe we could end up getting someone like Jack Eichel or Alexsandar Barkov.

Also in 2021-2022 it'd be great to all 2018 1st Round Picks on the Rangers, 9th overall RW Vitali Kravtsov, 22nd overall LD K'Andre Miller(who has been great so far this season), & 28th overall RD Nils Lundkvist, I know if we deal for someone like Eichel or Barkov it may require trading someone like Krav or Nils.

I just wonder, if we're able to hang onto our key prospects, what the team will look like next season, who gets protected in the Seattle Kraken expansion draft.

LW 10 Artemi Panarin
LW 20 Chris Kreider
LW 13 Alexis Lafreniere
LW 48 Brendan Lemieux
RW 89 Pavel Buchnevich
RW 24 Kaapo Kakko
RW 74 Vitali Kravtsov
RW 12 Julien Gauthier
C 93 Mike Zibanejad
C 16 Ryan Strome
C 72 Filip Chytil
C 21 Brett Howden
C 47 Morgan Barron

LD 79 K'Andre Miller
LD 55 Ryan Lindgren
LD 57 Yegor Rykov
LD 25 Libor Hajek or 97 Matthew Robertson
RD 8 Jacob Trouba
RD 23 Adam Fox
RD 64 Nils Lundkvist
RD 51 Tarmo Reunanen

G 31 Igor Shesterkin
G 40 Alexandar Georgiev

According to CapFriendy.com, the following Rangers are exempt from the expansion draft.

Alexis Lafreniere
Justin Richards
Kaapo Kakko
Patrick Khodorenko
Morgan Barron
Vitali Kravtsov
Austin Rueschhoff
Jacob Elmer
Patrick Newell
K'Andre Miller
Adam Fox
Yegor Rykov
Matthew Robertson
Tarmo Reunanen
Adam Huska
Tyler Wall
Igor Shesterkin

Plus all unsigned draft picks are exempt.

Now, you can protect either 7F/3D/1G or 8FD/1G.

The following can be exposed, players with NMC's have to be protected unless they agree to waive that to be exposed.

Artemi Panarin (NMC)
Chris Kreider (NMC)
Mike Zibanejad (NMC)
Ryan Strome
Pavel Buchnevich
Brendan Lemieux
Filip Chytil
Brett Howden
Julien Gauthier
Ty Ronning
Kevin Rooney
Anthony Greco
Tim Gettinger
Colin Blackwell
Gabriel Fontaine
Jonny Brodzinski
Phillip Di Giuseppe

Jacob Trouba (NMC)
Brendan Smith
Jack Johnson
Ryan Lindgren
Libor Hajek
Anthony Bitetto
Darren Raddysh
Brandon Crawley

Alexandar Georgiev
Keith Kinkaid

So, Kreider, Mika, Panarin, and Trouba must be protected, no way they expose Lindgren IMO, Buch hopefully is kept, if Chytil can come back strong, he's an obvious protect IMO, I don't want to lose Gauthier. Does anyone think Seattle would take Strome if exposed? The 3rd D if we went that way, Hajek makes sense. If for some reason we can't deal DeAngelo, then he, and Bitetto should exposed, I know there is a rule about games played, some of our guys won't have the required amount of games played. If DeAngelo is dealt, then we need another Defender to expose, so, I guess we hope to get someone on Defense in a deal at the deadline to be able to expose him.

So my list would be.

7F

Artemi Panarin
Mike Zibanejad
Chris Kreider
Pavel Buchnevich
Filip Chytil
Julien Gauthier
Brendan Lemieux or Brett Howden

3D

Jacob Trouba
Ryan Lindgren
Libor Hajek

1G

Alexandar Georgiev

Let me know what everyone thinks?
 
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Dont even know how we line up there.

Gorton has said he wont take back a bad contract. Bobby Mac dropped a small bit in intermission about how his agent Pat Brisson is based in LA. Was he hinting something? Either way I dont know what we would be looking for from LAK
Lias
 
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I haven’t seen one poster refer to Strome as anything but a short term stop gap, if he continues to put up some points with Panarin then fine. My Strome plan is to work out a deal with the Kraken that we leave him exposed for them for a 3rd unless someone offers a stoopid return at deadline
Don’t worry, no stupid return for Strome.
 
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I was told today that the Rangers have had conversations about DeAngelo with the LA Kings. No further derails available.
LA does have a lot of cap space. Outside of Doughty and Maatta, their blueline is also a comical game of "who's that?"
 
I just want to know what the thought process is with both JD and JG.

1. With regard to coaching, I find it hard to believe that at this point, they believe that David Quinn is the right man for the job. I think they brought him in to develop the young kids during the rebuild years and to his credit, K'Andre and Fox look great out there. And Kakko and Laf look good...at times, but yet, they're not accumulating points and at the end of the day, that's what matters. Laf and Kakko are the two best prospects this organization has ever had and yet they're not being put in positions to succeed. Yes, they're still very young and yes, there needs to be a certain amount of patience, but they also were the first and second overall picks. Management, fans and really the NHL see these guys as potential transcendent, superstar players, but yet, they've only shown brief flashes and glimpses of that. It hasn't been nearly enough. Some of that does fall on the players, but some of that falls on the coaching staff, who are tasked to develop and enhance the skills these players have.

Fact of the matter is that this team has not taken the necessary steps forward. They are not progressing or getting better and that should be quite alarming. Quinn seems like a really good guy and an easy guy to root for, but he just seems to be in over his head.

Now, why don't they fire him now? Perhaps they don't have anyone in mind to replace him with. I personally think Gerard Gallant would be an absolute slam-dunk hire right now or at the end of the year, but I don't know if JD and JG feel the same and obviously if you hire someone like Gallant midseason, you basically have to keep him next year, even if the team does worse under him than they are doing under Quinn.
Perhaps management has an assistant coach on another team in mind to be the next head coach, but they obviously can't hire that person until after the season. And if they decide to can Quinn now, but guys like Gallant, Babcock, Hitchcock, Boudreau, Sutter, etc. aren't appealing, they would most likely name Jacques Martin as interim HC. However, that's obviously a lot of responsibility and may be too much to ask of Martin, especially if you let go Oliver along with Quinn.

2. And regarding the roster, look, I'm not looking to trade for the sake of trading. I'm not. But there does need to be some kind of shake-up. This team looks lifeless out there. Perhaps a trade would set a fire under some of their asses. There are obviously untouchable guys like Panarin, Kakko, Laf, Fox, K'Andre, etc. but I would look to potentially sell off some pieces. Strome, Buch, Trouba (though that's a pipe dream), etc. I would even gauge what a team would be willing to offer for Zibanejad.

At the end of the day, I don't like how this team looks. I don't like how they're playing; I don't like their body language; I don't like the constant switching up of the lines; and most of all, I don't like the fact that Laf and Kakko are not accumulating points. That's the most damning, in my opinion. If they were accumulating points, I'd be more lenient and forgiving. As a whole, we should have sufficient offensive talent. The defense looks fine for the most part, but I expected A LOT more from some of our forwards and I've been extremely disappointed with our season as a whole.

Something's gotta give.
 
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I just want to know what the thought process is with both JD and JG.

1. With regard to coaching, I find it hard to believe that at this point, they believe that David Quinn is the right man for the job. I think they brought him in to develop the young kids during the rebuild years and to his credit, K'Andre and Fox look great out there. And Kakko and Laf look good...at times, but yet, they're not accumulating points and at the end of the day, that's what matters. Laf and Kakko are the two best prospects this organization have ever had and yet they're not being put in positions to succeed. Yes, they're still very young and yes, there needs to be a certain amount of patience, but they also were the first and second overall picks. Management, fans and really the NHL see these guys as potential transcendent, superstar players, but yet, they've only shown brief flashes and glimpses of that. It hasn't been nearly enough. Some of that does fall on the players, but some of that falls on the coaching staff, who are tasked to develop and enhance the skills these players have.

Fact of the matter is that this team has not taken the necessary steps forward. They are not progressing or getting better and that should be quite alarming. Quinn seems like a really good guy and an easy guy to root for, but he just seems to be in over his head.

Now, why don't they fire him now? Perhaps they don't have anyone in mind to replace him with. I mean I think Gerard Gallant would be an absolute slam-dunk hire right now or at the end of the year, but IDK if JD and JG feel the same and obviously if you hire someone like Gallant midseason, you basically have to keep him next year, even if the team does worse under him than they are doing under Quinn.
Perhaps management has an assistant coach on another team in mind to be the next head coach, but they obviously can't hire that person until after the season. And if guys like Gallant, Babcock, Hitchcock, Boudreau, Sutter, etc. aren't appealing right now, they would most likely name Jacques Martin as interim HC, but that's obviously a lot of responsibility and may be too much to ask of Martin, especially if you let go Oliver along with Quinn.

2. And regarding the roster, look, I'm not looking to trade for the sake of trading. I'm not. But there does need to be some kind of shake-up. This team looks lifeless out there. Perhaps a trade would set a fire under some of their asses. There are obviously untouchable guys like Panarin, Kakko, Laf, Fox, K'Andre, etc. But I would look to potentially sell off some pieces. Strome, Buch, Trouba (though that's a pipe dream), etc. I would even gauge what a team would be willing to offer for Zibanejad.

At the end of the day, I don't like how this team looks. I don't like how they're playing; I don't like their body language; I don't like the constant switching up of the lines; and most of all, I don't like the fact that Laf and Kakko are not getting points. That's the most damning, in my opinion. If they were accumulating points, I'd be more lenient and forgiving. As a whole, we should have sufficient offensive talent. The defense looks fine for the most part, but I expected A LOT more from some of our forwards and I've been extremely disappointed with our season as a whole.

Something's gotta give.
Good post. I agree with all of it and i would definitely look into making a few trades. Too many content guys here and no energy.
 
I just want to know what the thought process is with both JD and JG.

1. With regard to coaching, I find it hard to believe that at this point, they believe that David Quinn is the right man for the job. I think they brought him in to develop the young kids during the rebuild years and to his credit, K'Andre and Fox look great out there. And Kakko and Laf look good...at times, but yet, they're not accumulating points and at the end of the day, that's what matters. Laf and Kakko are the two best prospects this organization have ever had and yet they're not being put in positions to succeed. Yes, they're still very young and yes, there needs to be a certain amount of patience, but they also were the first and second overall picks. Management, fans and really the NHL see these guys as potential transcendent, superstar players, but yet, they've only shown brief flashes and glimpses of that. It hasn't been nearly enough. Some of that does fall on the players, but some of that falls on the coaching staff, who are tasked to develop and enhance the skills these players have.

Fact of the matter is that this team has not taken the necessary steps forward. They are not progressing or getting better and that should be quite alarming. Quinn seems like a really good guy and an easy guy to root for, but he just seems to be in over his head.

Now, why don't they fire him now? Perhaps they don't have anyone in mind to replace him with. I personally think Gerard Gallant would be an absolute slam-dunk hire right now or at the end of the year, but I don't know if JD and JG feel the same and obviously if you hire someone like Gallant midseason, you basically have to keep him next year, even if the team does worse under him than they are doing under Quinn.
Perhaps management has an assistant coach on another team in mind to be the next head coach, but they obviously can't hire that person until after the season. And if they decide to can Quinn now, but guys like Gallant, Babcock, Hitchcock, Boudreau, Sutter, etc. aren't appealing, they would most likely name Jacques Martin as interim HC. However, that's obviously a lot of responsibility and may be too much to ask of Martin, especially if you let go Oliver along with Quinn.

2. And regarding the roster, look, I'm not looking to trade for the sake of trading. I'm not. But there does need to be some kind of shake-up. This team looks lifeless out there. Perhaps a trade would set a fire under some of their asses. There are obviously untouchable guys like Panarin, Kakko, Laf, Fox, K'Andre, etc. but I would look to potentially sell off some pieces. Strome, Buch, Trouba (though that's a pipe dream), etc. I would even gauge what a team would be willing to offer for Zibanejad.

At the end of the day, I don't like how this team looks. I don't like how they're playing; I don't like their body language; I don't like the constant switching up of the lines; and most of all, I don't like the fact that Laf and Kakko are not accumulating points. That's the most damning, in my opinion. If they were accumulating points, I'd be more lenient and forgiving. As a whole, we should have sufficient offensive talent. The defense looks fine for the most part, but I expected A LOT more from some of our forwards and I've been extremely disappointed with our season as a whole.

Something's gotta give.
I couldn't give this enough likes. Sums up my thoughts exactly. Bravo.
 
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I just want to know what the thought process is with both JD and JG.

1. With regard to coaching, I find it hard to believe that at this point, they believe that David Quinn is the right man for the job. I think they brought him in to develop the young kids during the rebuild years and to his credit, K'Andre and Fox look great out there. And Kakko and Laf look good...at times, but yet, they're not accumulating points and at the end of the day, that's what matters. Laf and Kakko are the two best prospects this organization have ever had and yet they're not being put in positions to succeed. Yes, they're still very young and yes, there needs to be a certain amount of patience, but they also were the first and second overall picks. Management, fans and really the NHL see these guys as potential transcendent, superstar players, but yet, they've only shown brief flashes and glimpses of that. It hasn't been nearly enough. Some of that does fall on the players, but some of that falls on the coaching staff, who are tasked to develop and enhance the skills these players have.

Fact of the matter is that this team has not taken the necessary steps forward. They are not progressing or getting better and that should be quite alarming. Quinn seems like a really good guy and an easy guy to root for, but he just seems to be in over his head.

Now, why don't they fire him now? Perhaps they don't have anyone in mind to replace him with. I personally think Gerard Gallant would be an absolute slam-dunk hire right now or at the end of the year, but I don't know if JD and JG feel the same and obviously if you hire someone like Gallant midseason, you basically have to keep him next year, even if the team does worse under him than they are doing under Quinn.
Perhaps management has an assistant coach on another team in mind to be the next head coach, but they obviously can't hire that person until after the season. And if they decide to can Quinn now, but guys like Gallant, Babcock, Hitchcock, Boudreau, Sutter, etc. aren't appealing, they would most likely name Jacques Martin as interim HC. However, that's obviously a lot of responsibility and may be too much to ask of Martin, especially if you let go Oliver along with Quinn.

2. And regarding the roster, look, I'm not looking to trade for the sake of trading. I'm not. But there does need to be some kind of shake-up. This team looks lifeless out there. Perhaps a trade would set a fire under some of their asses. There are obviously untouchable guys like Panarin, Kakko, Laf, Fox, K'Andre, etc. but I would look to potentially sell off some pieces. Strome, Buch, Trouba (though that's a pipe dream), etc. I would even gauge what a team would be willing to offer for Zibanejad.

At the end of the day, I don't like how this team looks. I don't like how they're playing; I don't like their body language; I don't like the constant switching up of the lines; and most of all, I don't like the fact that Laf and Kakko are not accumulating points. That's the most damning, in my opinion. If they were accumulating points, I'd be more lenient and forgiving. As a whole, we should have sufficient offensive talent. The defense looks fine for the most part, but I expected A LOT more from some of our forwards and I've been extremely disappointed with our season as a whole.

Something's gotta give.

What they did with ADA proves they are stupid and selfish, so don't expect them fire Quinn and even if they do they will once again he the wrong people.
 
I think Jacques Martin gets just as much credit as anyone for K’Andre Miller’s transition to the NHL. I think Fox has looked even better this year. Is that a credit to Martin too? I don’t know. But the team defense has all the sudden looked a lot better. Much more responsible. This is DQ’s 3rd year. Martin’s 1st with this team.

Bottom line is I don’t think DQ is the man for this job. We have read Kakko’s recent quote regarding last season. Lafreniere is being buried on a talentless 3rd line. Brendan Lemieux is getting PP time over Julien Gauthier, who can’t even get minutes when he scores. The team’s offense has regressed this year. The PP has significantly regressed — and unfortunately, what is different from last year is no DeAngelo. Some of the blame does reside with the players, but the personnel decisions have constantly been in question. The in game coaching has especially been in question.

I am not sure who the better options are. I like Boudreau more than Gallant but would be interested in either. Knoblauch probably isnt ready for the NHL level and Hartford hasnt exactly been the class of the AHL like Keefe had the Marlies as. Patrick Roy? Claude Julien, Laviolette, and Trotz would have been good options. John Stevens? Mike Yeo? Kirk Meuller?
 
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