Anthony5967
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You make a compelling case for Strome and then say is he good? No. Lol. Fact of the matter is he is good. People on here are just similar to the ones on Twitter—in love with certain guys and have hate for others.
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does anyone remember who Strome's linemates were when he scored 50 points with the Islanders?
egelband
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Lazy and sloppy are different. But I’m on record as believing 99.9% of these guys are not lazy.
egelband
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Totally agree.
Strome is limited. But great at some things. Not Pirri-limited but he needs to play within himself. As most of these guys do.
pld459666
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Put me in the group that don't care about his 1 penalty every 3 games.
Not well enough to justify his current salary, let alone what he stands to win in arbitration after a season with Panarin.
PuckLuck3043
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I think he is average at best. It's a mixed bag of good point production playing with Panarin and some obvious weaknesses that he has. My point is that he is not the total dumpster fire that some on here make him out to be and 4-4.5 mil for 1 year for our 2c right now is a reasonable deal.
Amazing Kreiderman
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That's 3C money. If you can get 40-50 points out of a center for <5m playing with Panarin, that's a good deal
NYR Viper
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And this is where I fall. Specifically when your 1C is making 2C money and your 3C is on his ELC, paying Strome 3C money shouldn't be an issue for a year or two as a stop-gap. He has his warts, as most players do, but he adds to the team in a positive way.
1) please point out where I refer to him as first line talent
2) A multi year deal is not the same thing as a long-term deal.
Amazing Kreiderman
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2019-20, Ryan Strome had 59 points. 33 of those, Panarin was involved. He had 18 goals in back to back seasons, one with and one without Panarin. Only 11 of his 45 assists where on Panarin goals.
Now, if you want to make the case that Strome has benefited from playing with Panarin, I am sure nobody would argue with you. But Panarin is signed for 6 more years. He isn't going anywhere. Stroms for 2-3 years at ~5m AAV is fine. IMO he is another Brassard. A guy who can support better players rather than carrying his line. Having Strome on the team gives us the luxury of splitting up Panarin and Zibanejad.
Unless someone is really convinced Chytil can put up 50+ points playing with Panarin, I really don't see a reason to jettison Strome just yet.
Now, if you want to make the case that Strome has benefited from playing with Panarin, I am sure nobody would argue with you. But Panarin is signed for 6 more years. He isn't going anywhere. Stroms for 2-3 years at ~5m AAV is fine. IMO he is another Brassard. A guy who can support better players rather than carrying his line. Having Strome on the team gives us the luxury of splitting up Panarin and Zibanejad.
Unless someone is really convinced Chytil can put up 50+ points playing with Panarin, I really don't see a reason to jettison Strome just yet.
Raspewtin
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not to speak for the Strome skeptics but you can definitely count me in this camp and quite a few others too.
What in your view is the worth of a 43 point player who can slide from center to wing?
Would I rather it was less than 4? Sure. But at a reasonable price, would I be ok with 4 years? Sure. A non-bank breaking salary for a player who can seamlessly fit with your best player, slide back to play either wing or center on the third line or slide an play wing on the second line, is still only 26? Why not? As has been pointed out, just gives you time to evaluate if Chytil can take the role or do trading options need to be explored. And if Chytil is ready, then he can slide to one of the positions that I am mentioning.
charliemurphy
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Seems like the same thing is being rehashed whether its Strome or TDA.
IMO, if Strome is resigned to whats being thrown around then I think its inevitable that both he and TDA are moved within the next season.
IMO, if Strome is resigned to whats being thrown around then I think its inevitable that both he and TDA are moved within the next season.
Not sure how you can debate that it is top line production. Look around the league. Look at how many top lines there are and then what points all of the players are putting up. If 50 points is top line (and it IS as the facts tell you), then how can you argue that Strome's 70 that he was trending to last year are not??
Two years ago when over 63 games with the Rangers, he was averaging .52 points per game. That is more than a large enough sample.
Jesus christ. There are appropriate times to project the points total of a player for an incomplete season, and then there's every time you project points for Strome.
I look at what he has done here. You want to take points away for him playing on a line with Panarin and you seem to look at his 63 games the prior year s if it were 15. Here's the fact. Strome has produced since he has arrived here. You seem to want to somehow discount his time with Panarin and before Panarin. If 63 games are not enough, then let's look at the totality of his gameplay here, shall we? Then there is no need to project anything and we can just deal with the bottom line.
This looks an awful lot like your insistence that Trouba was to be traded.
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