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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXIX

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Honestly, I can take Strome or leave him, at this point.

I will say that it's probably better for the team to have him here, if only to act as a safety net for Chytil.

But, seeing as our LD situation is also a huge question mark, I don't see how we need Strome. If we're not going to contend, this is just another building year. Furthermore, I would "contend" that we're not true contenders without an upgrade to Strome, so I'm truly fine rolling the dice this season with Chytil as the 2C. Someone will emerge if he fails.

On the flip side, if we do sign Strome, we have a fail-safe for 2C minutes. Even though Strome is terrible defensively, he's a proven producer with Panarin. He could also be an asset come the TDL. However, we should be a bubble playoff team, so I doubt we would sell him anyway. Teams are also super-tight to the cap, which could effect the TDL. Who knows?
 
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Edge said:
In fairness, the Washington team he went to also had Ovechkin scoring 65 goals and 112 points, along with Green, Backstrom, Semin and even guys like Laich and Kozlov posting some solid offensive totals.

Nylander on his own, was seen as a good but not not great offensive center. His career to that point was often see as a bit of a disappointment that did not quite equal the sum of the parts of his talent.

Low and behold, he comes to the Rangers and posts at a rate somewhere between 20-30 percent higher than that of his career highs to that point. And, offensive uptick in the NHL notwithstanding, he does so at the age of 33 and 34 respectively.

Nylander was a better player than Strome, just as Jagr was a better player than Panarin. But both players benefitted greatly from their chemistry with a superior player --- by the tune of probably 20-30 percent.

Could those star players have chemistry elsewhere? Sure, but I think history warns us that is never a given and I think we have to consider the reality that Chytil isn't there yet, while having Zibanejad center Panarin concentrates a lot of our current offensive firepower in one place.
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I think the Strome-Nylander comparison is actually quite apt.
 
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NYR Viper said:
I made the comparison a few pages back and I'll say that the comparison may not be perfect (what comparison is in sports) but the overall premise is closer than many seem to want to agree with.
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I've made it in the past as well (along with some similarities between Strome and Miller at this stage in their career).

I think it has merit.
 
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SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
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Exactly. Said who? And even if true, paying him $3m, I would just rather pay Strome $4.5 r $5 as you know that he works there and has success.
A lot of selective memory by some. A player who comes here and plays the best hockey of his career is hardly commonplace. Lots of people think it's simple.
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People tend to forget that the percentage of failures far out does the percentage of success. We have seen many, many failures as UFAs here. I would rather have the guy that is several years younger and seems to be trending in the right direction.

But hey, it' so easy. Just go sign a schlep on an ECL, slot him next to Panarin and BAAM......70 point producer. I mean look at the offensive explosion that Fast suddenly developed.
 
The problem with Strome is that he isn’t very strong individually. He is a great fit with Panarin, but stick him at a 4th line and he won’t help much.

Can’t invest much in that long-term.
 
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Ola said:
The problem with Strome is that he isn’t very strong individually. He is a great fit with Panarin, but stick him at a 4th line and he won’t help much.

Can’t invest much in that long-term.
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Strome was more than adequate (definitely not a passenger) when Namestnikov - Strome - Fast was a thing toward the end of 18-19 season.
 
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Ola said:
The problem with Strome is that he isn’t very strong individually. He is a great fit with Panarin, but stick him at a 4th line and he won’t help much.

Can’t invest much in that long-term.
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1) No one is talking about making a long term investment
2) Since coming to the Rangers, ha has played on the 4th line. He still managed to produce points.
3) Why would you want him on the 4th line? Whatever money he is going to make, will be way too much for a 4th liner.
 
True Blue said:
1) No one is talking about making a long term investment
2) Since coming to the Rangers, ha has played on the 4th line. He still managed to produce points.
3) Why would you want him on the 4th line? Whatever money he is going to make, will be way too much for a 4th liner.
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Did he produce on the 4th line? That line was horrible when he was on it.
 
Avery16 said:
Granlund is more consistent, more responsible, and will probably be cheaper.

His offensive output without Panarin is on average higher than Strome’s without Panarin. It stands to reason that he would also do very well on a line with Panarin.

But everyone’s been over this a million times.
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His best hockey was 3 or 4 years ago, at this point he isn't much of an upgrade if he is at all anymore and there is 0 guarantee he plays as well as Strome with Panarin. If you are making a move for the 2c it has to be better than a "possible" upgrade otherwise why bother? And yes they have been over this a hundred times but it keeps coming up as an option for some reason odd reason.
 
Granlund was/is more likely viewed as a Plan B/C that could potentially play center for a spell, maybe play RW as well, and give them a low-cost option.
 
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