Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVIII

[bl02]

Be interested to see what Ottawa would offer. May be the #26?

Even their two seconds if they don’t wanna give up #28. They have 4 second rounders

 

[The S5]

Dougie Hamilton was considered pretty disappointing for a while. That doesn't mean that Hanifin will figure it out, but sometimes it takes a while, particularly for defensemen. I haven't watched him enough to really know, but if management thinks he can be a good compliment to Trouba on a shutdown pair, I'll take their word for it.

Dougie was considered disappointing, while putting up 40+ points and playing average D. Hanifin putting up fewer points playing below average D. Hanifin is in no way a shut down D. As it is, Trouba has shown himself to be less than a shut down D.
As a Canes season ticket holder, I watched Noah every game and the kid is just underwhelming. He hasn't done anything in Calgary to distinguish himself I might take a shot at him if the price was low, but otherwise, there are better options.

 

[bl02]

The problem with the speculation mostly from this board about lindholm is that, Calgary from what i hear is more interested in moving Gaudreau than him.

Please we don’t need Gaudreau please don’t do anything stupid JG

 

[RGY]

Brady Skjei 2.0
Jokes aside, Hanifin has been pretty disappointing.

Yep and were not trading a 50 point 25 year old winger on the upswing PLUS a prospect for mediocrity

 

[bl02]

I know The Gourde secret is out of the bag but that is the type a guy I would love. Non stop motor pest and can bury big goals

 

[GAGLine]

Please we don’t need Gaudreau please don’t do anything stupid JG

There's no chance we trade for Gaudreau. It doesn't make sense on any level.

 

[RGY]

I know The Gourde secret is out of the bag but that is the type a guy I would love. Non stop motor pest and can bury big goals

Yep, he just buzzes around the ice and gets under the opponents skin.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Even their two seconds if they don’t wanna give up #28. They have 4 second rounders

Yeah, maybe 33 and 60.

 

[Avery16]

Be interested to see what Ottawa would offer. May be the #28?

I doubt that.

 

[Synergy27]

Dougie was considered disappointing, while putting up 40+ points and playing average D. Hanifin putting up fewer points playing below average D. Hanifin is in no way a shut down D. As it is, Trouba has shown himself to be less than a shut down D.
As a Canes season ticket holder, I watched Noah every game and the kid is just underwhelming. He hasn't done anything in Calgary to distinguish himself I might take a shot at him if the price was low, but otherwise, there are better options.

Honestly, the biggest issue with Hanifin for me is simply the fact that Carolina moved on from him. They are a defenseman factory. If he couldn’t succeed there, that speaks volumes to me.

 

[Avery16]

Even their two seconds if they don’t wanna give up #28. They have 4 second rounders

Especially since we just gave up ours, I think this is more likely

 

[Mikos87]

Staal's contract terms were debated for years. Brooks tried to get a handle on it by asking the agent and management. Even capfriendly had changes to the terms.

I saw one report that quoted Yzerman as saying Staal didn't waive for Detroit. Can't find it now but the article in the Post today has:

It's how you define NMC and NTC. In legal documents, such as a contract, if you have two terms that are going to be defined--> then they typically stand for two mututally exclusive components of said agreement.

What got confounded, is that the NTC was always considered to be under the NMC. Meaning, No-Move = No movement at all. What it really should say, is a No-Move, is a No-Waivers/No-Demotion clause. That allows you to keep the trade lever (Full, Partial) and the waivers, and demotion levers the same.

If I was a GM, I would make a "No-Move" conditional. You come into camp overweight... voided.... you don't come close to your production level.... voided. Players still get paid, but if they are going to be a vegetable, then they don't get in the way of a team competing. Just a financial mistake, and not a long-term hockey one.

 

[Avery16]

7 years for possibly 8+ mil for a 29 year old would cost us a LOT

It’s only cap room. That’s like, not even a real asset.

 

[SA16]

Is cirelli really good... Or does he just play for a really good team.

Like namestnikov before him.

I feel like a lot of the cirelli hype is based on his teammates. Could be wrong tho, wouldn't be the first time.

I'm lukewarm on cirelli.

Cirelli does not play with Stamkos/Kucherov like Namestnikov did. His linemates are nothing special.

 

[Mikos87]

Brady Skjei 2.0
Jokes aside, Hanifin has been pretty disappointing.

It's a case of a kid being an NHL ready player at 17. Just physically mature at that age and could skate. CAR brought him in too early, and paid him too early. I look at him as the same player he was drafted as. A good 4-5 guy on a solid core.

I have zero interest in him. Milktoast mediocrity.

 

[bleedblue94]

Can you kind folks explain to this simpleton that hasn't been following this why I keep hearing Calgary, Lindholm, and Hanifin?

Edge.

Edge has all but paid for a sign on a billboard stating that this is something NYR keeps discussing with the flames and they haven't been told no

 

[Mikos87]

Does Edge do social media? Where can I follow him?

 

[bleedblue94]

If we are trading for Cirelli, we have to trade Strome somewhere else.

Edge said strome to ott is a thing if NYR can land other trades

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Edge said strome to ott is a thing if NYR can land other trades

Howd i miss that?

 

[bleedblue94]

Howd i miss that?

It may have been in the staal trade thread. He was bouncing around a little bit last night.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Ottawa inquired about Strome, and the Rangers are listening. Putting everything together, if the Rangers can complete a deal for a 2C, (which can be inferred through the continued discussions with Calgary about Lindholm), then they would move Strome, probably for a couple of picks.

Could also be part of the reason for the Staal trade.

 

[aufheben]

Is cirelli really good... Or does he just play for a really good team.

Like namestnikov before him.

I feel like a lot of the cirelli hype is based on his teammates. Could be wrong tho, wouldn't be the first time.

I'm lukewarm on cirelli.

Not quite. He plays #2C and gets all the tough assignments. Very important to Tampa.

 

[Michal]

Courtesy of @Edge. The Rangers and Flames have had a lot of discussions for a while now, and reportedly, both Lindholm and Hanifan have been asks from the Ranger side. (And they haven’t been rebuffed.). The Flames have expressed interest in Buchnevich, Hajek and Andersson.

Lindholm's contract is so good. Why would Calgary want to trade him? (Especially for Buch, Lias and Hajek)

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I like Cirelli but please tell me where this is coming from? Im really doubtful Tampa lets him go.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

It may have been in the staal trade thread. He was bouncing around a little bit last night.

Appreciate it, ill go take a look. Strome to Ottawa would be interesting, they have loads of draft capital.