Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVIII

[RangersFan1994]

Strome, DeAngelo, Chytil and 22 for Eichel and McCabe ?? too much or fair value??

 

[Inferno]

I'd throw a lot at buffalo to get eichel. You run with it and if mika has to be traded in a year...so be it.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

yes.

the Staal trade was weird and clearly something that was foreshadowing a bigger move.

the 1OA wouldn’t be on the table. JD would never allow for it. Ditto Kakko.

now Chytil/DeAngelo/Strome/Howden/Buch/22OA/ any of the other prospects? Yeah.

I could get behind that, but obviously because none of those come close to Eichel. The besr player in that group by far is ADA. Even if you added Kravstov you’re miles away from Eichel. Unless Eichel really wants out and wants NYR I don’t know how the Rangers make the trade without destroying the foundation of our rebuild.

Staal move I really don’t know how to feel about it.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Strome, DeAngelo, Chytil and 22 for Eichel and McCabe ?? too much fair value??

I would think the offer would have to start with Kakko. That's the part that makes me ill.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

There is no point in adding Eichel if it costs Zibanejad

Well he's better, younger, and locked in for longer, and if they get Eichel without giving up Zibanejad, it'd be way harder to keep Zibanejad in two years when his contract is up

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don't see how A) Buffalo would do it, or B) it would be the best offer for Eichel otherwise

But since no one decided to post the follow up McKenzie tweets, he also said Eichel doesn't want out and Buffalo doesn't want to trade him and they're both on the same page of wanting to get better sooner rather than later

I really don't see anyone who could beat a base of Chytil+DeAngelo+22 and absorb the full hit of that contract.

 

[Trxjw]

They're not acquiring Eichel to play one of those three on the third line.

Just like the Pens didn't acquire Kessel to play him on the 3rd line... and then did... and won a cup in doing so because teams couldn't match up against 3 lines of attack.

 

[RGY]

The player wants out. He does have a heavy cap hit. I think you are looking at only handful of teams that can absorb the cap hit and still function for the next few years with the flat cap, as well as have the assets to satisfy BUF moving the player. Now being only one of a handful of teams, I think it also means the Rangers would not have to trade 1OA or Kakko in the deal.

 

[Irishguy42]

The Rangers will "lose" any trade in which they trade for Eichel now, IMO, just from the sheer amount of assets being given up.

Sabres also would be losing the trade because they will have traded Eichel, who will inevitably be the best player among all the assets in the whole trade.

It is nice to think about though, in these boring times.

But then again, Sabres traded ROR for a bag of pucks and a zamboni, sooooooooooo...

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I absolutely believe Eichel wants out of Buffalo, I think he's just being quiet about it. It does Buffalo nor Eichel any good to blow up the situation and make it untenable.

I have to agree with others in that it is very odd the Rangers were the only team mentioned. Very odd.

Maybe he was only able to get confirmation on us, and not the other teams

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Well he's better, younger, and locked in for longer, and if they get Eichel without giving up Zibanejad, it'd be way harder to keep Zibanejad in two years when his contract is up

That’s why you trade Mika to at least get something back. Eichel has a really good contract for a player of his caliber. Mika would get more assuming he doesn’t crash and burn.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I don't see how A) Buffalo would do it, or B) it would be the best offer for Eichel otherwise

But since no one decided to post the follow up McKenzie tweets, he also said Eichel doesn't want out and Buffalo doesn't want to trade him and they're both on the same page of wanting to get better sooner rather than later

He specifically said “if you take this information at face value”

of course Eichel is going to deny requesting a trade, and Buffalo is going to deny that he asked.

 

[RangersFan1994]

The player wants out. He does have a heavy cap hit. I think you are looking at only handful of teams that can absorb the cap hit and still function for the next few years with the flat cap, as well as have the assets to satisfy BUF moving the player. Now being only one of a handful of teams, I think it also means the Rangers would not have to trade 1OA or Kakko in the deal.

Strome DeAngelo Chytil 22 is more than fair in my opinion for a player like Eichel. maybe some team can beat that offer

 

[Savant]

Well he's better, younger, and locked in for longer, and if they get Eichel without giving up Zibanejad, it'd be way harder to keep Zibanejad in two years when his contract is up

No. The point is to upgrade the Center position. Trading Zibanejad for Eichel does not make them better. It keeps them the same. Its just one in/one out. Don’t think Zibanejad is going to get more money than Eichel either.

 

[rangers1314]

I'd imagine this was something leaked by Eichel's camp. The first public seed planted that he may want out if things don't turn around, and soon.

I'd imagine he plays out this season in Buffalo, and when he is traded at next years draft after Buffalo has another bottom 10 finish...we look at this leaked note to Bob McK as the starting point of his divorce from Buffalo.

 

[LokiDog]

See, I personally think Zib gives you just as good of a chance to win. He may not be as elite offensively, but his all around game makes up for it. This is really only interesting to me if it results in a 1-2 of Zib/Eichel, otherwise it’s just shuffling the chairs.

I don’t know that we’re in a position to make this work. Even if you’re sending Smith the other way, the Kreider contract really inhibits a move like this. You can’t pay Panarin, Eichel, Trouba, Kreider, Zibanejad and then pay Fox, Kakko, Shesty and Laf their raises. Losing Zib doesn’t make sense as you end up in the same situation we’re in now. Sure Eichel is younger and flashier, but you still are shallow at C with one elite player.

Unless Kreider or Trouba were part of it (which I can’t see), I don’t see it really helping us long term. Eichel is just a sexy name. We’d be in the same position.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I would think the offer would have to start with Kakko. That's the part that makes me ill.

if the player request the trade their value goes down especially with a cap hit that he has

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Why would Zibanejad resign with the Sabres? If he had five years left on his deal maybe he'd be in play.

 

[LokiDog]

No. The point is to upgrade the Center position. Trading Zibanejad for Eichel does not make them better. It keeps them the same. Its just one in/one out. Don’t think Zibanejad is going to get more money than Eichel either.

Exactly.

 

[Thirty One]

Buffalo forum has closed down the Eichel thread lol

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Buffalo forum has closed down the Eichel thread lol

They’re in the first stage of grief.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

No. The point is to upgrade the Center position. Trading Zibanejad for Eichel does not make them better. It keeps them the same. Its just one in/one out. Don’t think Zibanejad is going to get more money than Eichel either.

Well again, he's better so he is an upgrade alone. Zibanejad's not going to get more, but the team is going to have to pay Kakko, Fox, and Lafreniere too

 

[Irishguy42]

McKenzie probably only mentioned the Rangers because a while back, when the Eichel-wants-out rumors were fresh and hot, NYR was the primary team mentioned and circulated on social media.

Now out of his margarita hangover (or in a brief pause), McKenzie probably first caught wind of thae now stale rumor, went and checked specifically about "NYR + Eichel" and found out a couple of other teams checked in too, including NYR.

So it makes sense to specifically mention NYR. I don't think it goes deeper than that here.

 

[Savant]

Eichel trade doesn’t make sense unless Trouba is in it. This is not an endorsement to trade Trouba, it is basic salary cap math.

Buffalo probably wanted 1OA, rightfully. The only player on Buffalo I am trading 1OA for is Dahlin.

if there was a package that Gorton liked, methinks this would be done already.

 

[Thirty One]

Why would Zibanejad resign with the Sabres? If he had five years left on his deal maybe he'd be in play.

They could use him for one, make an effort to sign him, and then trade him.