Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVIII

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This is true!

You can set that Chalice in-between the kids on those long drives to the lake on Sundays:D

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Cute kids! Who’s Dad?
 
Interesting. I think he could be a nice fit but isn’t he an rfa? And also the sens may not give him up on the cheap. They need guys like him with a team full of Super young players

Strome for Tierney+?
Buch, Lias+?> for Lindholm


- Panarin | Lindholm | Kakko
- Lafreniere| Zibs | Kravtsov/Gauthier
- Kreider | Tierney | Chytil
- Lemieux | Howden | Gauthier/Barron

thats a pretty nice balance IMO
 
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The thing that worries me a little bit about the Flames is that that they're a team who is rumored to be mixed up in trying to bring in a few bigger name UFAs. They've been linked to Hall, Markstrom, and Pietreangelo in the last few weeks. Markstrom in particular could be a sticking point with Lindholm since I would imagine part of their pitch will be the fact that one of his closest friends is a Flame. They've also been linked to OEL.

On the flip side, maybe if they land a couple of those guys it frees up others for less expensive acquisition costs.

I'm confident that Gorton has other avenues lined up but I hope they don't get tunnel vision here.
 
Hey there Compadre. I have a smoking new Jaguar (full sized) at with 400+ hp... costing a bit in fines and at the gas station. And would I like a functional safe Volvo instead? Naw...

If you already has Lamborghini or Ferrari but need more more reliability and safety features for the Cup and yeah the kids.
 
The question isn’t that Nylander is the more skilled player, the question is what the Rangers need, what they’re looking for, what they can afford, and functionality.

That’s going to be very important to remember when we look at the real world team Gorton is trying to build, as opposed to the one we assemble in NHL 21.
 
You're not a fan of 27-51-78 in 81 GP and 29-25-54 in 70 GP plus good analytics and FO numbers along with C/RW flexibility...?

Great numbers, and he's a cost controlled upgrade over Strome. I don't have a problem with Strome + for Lindholm. That plus would likely have to be the 22 overall pick at least. CGY, who needs depth and players can use that 1st for something else, and you might have other pieces to balance it out.

Does CGY need to pay a tax with Lindholm to cover their other deficiencies? And does that help the Rangers cover said tax?

So to me I see a lot of the merits of why both teams would do this, but it's a classic situation of what're the alternative options for CGY?

Hanifin I couldn't give a rat's ass about. I know they don't have any farm hands they developed coming up on defense, and their depth is 3 UDFA signings. Or three Pionks.
 
I don't think Strome plus is going to net Lindolm...

Agreed. If something isn't centered around ADA, then it's probably Buchnevich.

Strome trade is going to be to recoup assets. Like Georgiev.

Thanks guys. It's what I would be good with, and one that's one you have to think long and hard about. Like I said previously, it's all about ADA's demands. If his body can manage 3 more years of good hockey, he's making the most he can possibly make. If Ada's agent has him going for the 6, Ada should see if the agent wiggles on their own rate to get a deal done, that will tell you who has his best interest at heart.

If it's the following:
  • ADA -> Lindholm
  • Strome-> Multiple 2020 Picks/Assets
  • Georgie-> 2020 picks
I am more than okay with it if further moves follow. More than okay with it. Especially if those picks are coming from the likes of LA, MTL, OTT or DET.
 
Thanks guys. It's what I would be good with, and one that's one you have to think long and hard about. Like I said previously, it's all about ADA's demands. If his body can manage 3 more years of good hockey, he's making the most he can possibly make. If Ada's agent has him going for the 6, Ada should see if the agent wiggles on their own rate to get a deal done, that will tell you who has his best interest at heart.

If it's the following:
  • ADA -> Lindholm
  • Strome-> Multiple 2020 Picks/Assets
  • Georgie-> 2020 picks
I am more than okay with it if further moves follow. More than okay with it. Especially if those picks are coming from the likes of LA, MTL, OTT or DET.
Are we sure Calgary wants DeAngelo?
 
Are we sure Calgary wants DeAngelo?

I'm not. I think CGY needs to make a decision on the identity of their team. I know what they like, but it's a massive shake up. So you have to get back what solves your biggest set of needs now and in the future.

In other words, like my previous post, does CGY need to pay a tax with Lindholm?
 
Are we sure Calgary wants DeAngelo?
I'm not. I think CGY needs to make a decision on the identity of their team. I know what they like, but it's a massive shake up. So you have to get back what solves your biggest set of needs now and in the future.

In other words, like my previous post, does CGY need to pay a tax with Lindholm?

He would be replacing 30 year old Travis Hamonic on the right side who is a UFA after this past season (had a 3.85mm cap hit)

 
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I spoke with a buddy of mine from CGY just a few days ago. He's not in the trade Johnny boat, he's in the one more year for Johnny boat. So like with any transactional business, there are going to be dominoes effects. It is an invariable inevitability of a walled garden that a sports league is.

Does age simply act as a disqualifier for you guys?

What if you had a chance to get an older player who is in the 30-33 range, but a horse? Like you know, athletically gifted, and his body's aging effects isn't the same as others?

Do you guys simply look at a cut-off age and say no? If so, what's that age?
 
To build on the Sens nugget Edge dropped in the Staal thread, this came out of a Garroich article about two weeks ago:

Up front, the Senators could use at least one centre, perhaps even a No. 1 pivot because there’s not much depth now at the moment. Right now, the middle of this roster is made up Colin White, Chris Tierney, Artem Anisimov while Matthew Peca was brought in as a UFA to finish out the season, but it should be noted that need may be addressed in the draft.

After a standout first year in Belleville, centre Josh Norris should push for a spot on the top two lines while Logan Brown, the No. 11 overall pick in 2011, is also going to have the opportunity.

All that being said, the Senators may spend one of those picks to go get a veteran centre who can play top six minutes via trade. The other option is wait for free agency, but there’s not a whole lot available on the UFA market but there’s no shortage of demand.
GARRIOCH: The decision to let Mark Borowiecki go to market will be just one of many changes in Ottawa | Ottawa Sun

Wonder what team has a veteran center that can play in the top-six they'd be willing to give up for picks?

Sens have 7 2nd round picks in the next two years. Sure makes it easier to trade one of yours with Staal if you're confident you can get one back for Strome.
 
One interesting alternative that I wonder how much is being discussed is moving Lafreniere to center. It’s a move that changes the landscape a lot.

Not until he's seasoned in the league a bit. Maybe worth trying then. He's a physical competitor that will do well on the walls.
 
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