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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LII

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I think there are other pieces Arizona would consider trading before moving Keller. He's young and the contract is big, but there are other guys I'd personally move first.

I would also guess the Rangers are out on him, considering we need more wings like a hole in the head
 
GoAwayStaal said:
Talbot had 2 very good seasons there, including a 42 win seasons where he finished 4th in Vezina voting and was involved with Edmonton's deepest playoff run since 2006.

Don't know if I'd call that a bad experience.
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Sure, maybe it was a bit harsh to call that but did it workout as expected when he was brought in and given a long term contract?
 
NYR Viper said:
I’m curious how many teams would even be interested in Keller right now. Do we all think the offers would need to be that great considering everyone knows ARI would be mainly looking to dump salary?

Also yes to Reaves if Vegas looks to trade him. I’m still a fan of adding Roussel if Vancouver is looking to dump salary. Find guys with a year or two left and the Rangers should be able to fit them under the cap. Their contracts will expire right when the Rangers will need the cap space.
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I am a little confused as if to if they even will be looking to dump salary? What are they going to do, roll over and suck for a bunch of years despite not even having any 1st round picks? Have it been reported?
 
Crazy Monday morning thought:

We all agree that any trade of ADA should bring us back a center for the future.

Would anyone be willing to trade ADA, Geo, and our second first round pick ( lets say # 22 ) if Ottawa would bit on number#5 ?

We draft Macro Rossi at number 5.

Ottawa most likely will draft Drysdale at number 5 but ADA has already establish himself as a top offensive defenseman which Ottawa would hope Drysdale becomes.

Georgiev would be there goalie of the future--Number 22 returns them back an additional first round pick--hell they additional draft capital to even move back up.

Ottawa has no issues with cap space so signing ADA is not a problem.

Rossi become the center we need.

Now this maybe fantasy world but does it make sense ?

Out of fantasy world into reality:

With the news coming out of Edmonton I wonder if Buch and Geo for Kelfbom or Nurse would be where Edmonton is looking.

We know they need a goalie and we know they have liked Buch in the past.
 
RGY said:


This is why you need a diverse lineup of player types. You cannot build your lineup just to be all one dimensional players. You need sandpaper. Yes they need to be able to play hockey and Reaves certainly can so Vegas did a great job bringing him in. I have watched this series and Reaves has terrorized Quinn Hughes and Vancouver. Yes during the regular season the need not be as dramatic, but come postseason it certainly will be. Hughes could be Kakko, Lafreniere, Fox, etc. And while Reaves linemates have always played hard, Carrier and Stephenson are absolutely playing an even heavier game knowing he is on their line.
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You can tell that he hasn’t played in the East much, this is what all teams are facing nightly when playing Washington and NYI as well as CBJ haven’t been that far behind. QH must be one of the more overrated players in hockey.
 
kovazub94 said:
Sure, maybe it was a bit harsh to call that but did it workout as expected when he was brought in and given a long term contract?
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Was that on him or the Oilers in general though?

It fell apart for him in his last season there and the season before that wasn't great either, but that team sucked.

I don't think Geo is going to be a target for them straight up for a D, but what happened with Talbot should have no effect on how they feel about Geo. They're different people/players at different staged of their career. Talbot was almost 30 when he was traded.
 
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Crazy Monday morning thought:

We all agree that any trade of ADA should bring us back a center for the future.

Would anyone be willing to trade ADA, Geo, and our second first round pick ( lets say # 22 ) if Ottawa would bit on number#5 ?

We draft Macro Rossi at number 5.

Ottawa most likely will draft Drysdale at number 5 but ADA has already establish himself as a top offensive defenseman which Ottawa would hope Drysdale becomes.

Georgiev would be there goalie of the future--Number 22 returns them back an additional first round pick--hell they additional draft capital to even move back up.

Ottawa has no issues with cap space so signing ADA is not a problem.

Rossi become the center we need.

Now this maybe fantasy world but does it make sense ?

Out of fantasy world into reality:

With the news coming out of Edmonton I wonder if Buch and Geo for Kelfbom or Nurse would be where Edmonton is looking.

We know they need a goalie and we know they have liked Buch in the past.
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I don't agree that DeAngelo should be traded for a center. If he's traded, I think it should be for a shut down LD of similar age.

I don't think Ottawa would do that trade. They are in the prospect accumulation stage of building. #5 gets them a high grade one. Neither DeAngelo nor Georgiev fits their timeline.
 
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Ola said:
You can tell that he hasn’t played in the East much, this is what all teams are facing nightly when playing Washington and NYI as well as CBJ haven’t been that far behind. QH must be one of the more overrated players in hockey.
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Oh boy.

If the east has shown anything so far to me, it's that it's a very mediocre year in this conference.
 
bbny said:
I don't agree that DeAngelo should be traded for a center. If he's traded, I think it should be for a shut down LD of similar age.

I don't think Ottawa would do that trade. They are in the prospect accumulation stage of building. #5 gets them a high grade one. Neither DeAngelo nor Georgiev fits their timeline.
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While I agree with you that Ottawa is in the accumulation stage ( I like how you put that ) ADA and Geo are only 24 years old--how would that not fit Ottawa's rebuilding stage--it's not like those 2 guys are close to 30 years old.

Even if Ottawa takes 3 more years to rebuild that puts both ADA and Geo at 27 years old in the primes of their careers. I would except that Ottawa would want both ADA and Geo extended past 3 years.

Now if you feel Ottawa is going to take longer to rebuild I understand where your coming from--but Jeez that's a long rebuild with all of their draft choices they have and will make.

Again I did say in the fantasy world.
 
I would not deal ADA unless it was a Godfather offer. Put ADA with somebody that can move and play a little defense and I think his game has room to grow. Playing with the human anchor MS has got to be frustrating. It is a shame what MS has become. Injuries and age, plus the game speeding up have left him behind. Remember ADA was on pace for 60 pts and he also adds some grit to a team that needs it.
Trading players like Buch, Strome, maybe losing Fast, and loaning players to the European team is going to leave us short on the 3rd and 4th lines. I dont know if I could watch a season of McKegg , DiGiuseppe , O'Regan, Fogerty, Haley getting that ice time. I would like to see the kids with potential to develop like Barron than career minor league skaters. We are still in a rebuild. Patience.
I know the European guys are only loaned.
 
NYR Viper said:
Also yes to Reaves if Vegas looks to trade him. I’m still a fan of adding Roussel if Vancouver is looking to dump salary. Find guys with a year or two left and the Rangers should be able to fit them under the cap. Their contracts will expire right when the Rangers will need the cap space.
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RGY said:


This is why you need a diverse lineup of player types. You cannot build your lineup just to be all one dimensional players. You need sandpaper. Yes they need to be able to play hockey and Reaves certainly can so Vegas did a great job bringing him in. I have watched this series and Reaves has terrorized Quinn Hughes and Vancouver. Yes during the regular season the need not be as dramatic, but come postseason it certainly will be. Hughes could be Kakko, Lafreniere, Fox, etc. And while Reaves linemates have always played hard, Carrier and Stephenson are absolutely playing an even heavier game knowing he is on their line.
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Disagree with the bolded in regards to Carrier. He played like a runaway freight train even before Reaves showed up here.

Stephenson doesn't play heavy at all, but he's been really good between those guys. He & Carrier can skate like the wind, so Reaves actually holds those guys back because he can't keep up.

As an aside, looks like Nosek isn't gonna be re-signed in Vegas. He's a guy who might be a good add on our 4th line. He can play center or wing, skates well, kills penalties & has a decent amount of skill. Cost wouldn't be more than $1.5 AAV for 2 years.
 
bbny said:
I don't agree that DeAngelo should be traded for a center. If he's traded, I think it should be for a shut down LD of similar age.

I don't think Ottawa would do that trade. They are in the prospect accumulation stage of building. #5 gets them a high grade one. Neither DeAngelo nor Georgiev fits their timeline.
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Forget about Ottawa. Gorton would not do that trade
 
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We need another Finn. It still baffles me that we let an 18-year old kid, who was being hyped as the savior of one of the most storied and popular franchises in the league, come to the biggest city in the world where he barely spoke the native language and we didn't get him another countryman. The only player who spoke his native language was Zibanejad and that's because his mother is Finnish. Get. Another. Finn.

That or the Knicks should trade for Lauri Markkanen and MSG should have a reality show centered around Kakko and Markkanen living together in Manhattan.
 
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Kakko was compared to Jonathan Huberdeau by the panel at the Draft; Lafreniere was compared to Huberdeau by Central Scouting, I believe. You know what that means...


Trade for Huberdeau, convert one of them to C and play all of them on the same line. Voila! The new Triplets. :)
 
Has this been posted?

14. Jacques Martin, let go in Pittsburgh, could replace Lindy Ruff with the Rangers.
 
NYR Viper said:
I’m curious how many teams would even be interested in Keller right now. Do we all think the offers would need to be that great considering everyone knows ARI would be mainly looking to dump salary?
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I think there would be interest in Keller but I don’t think the Coyotes are ready to give up on him. His contract is a big ticket and has long term. He is still marinating.
 
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