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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part L

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bobbop said:
I’m not sure I saw your original post but the idea does have some merit. Lindholm is a very good player. He’s two years older than Tony and is locked in at $5.2MM for the next two years. Given their respective ages and Lindholm’s existing contract I’d expect a bit more from Anaheim to make this happen. Swapping out DeAngelo for Lindholm would really give the defense much more balance.

It’s an idea worth pondering.
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I like Lindholm a lot but it's unclear what the Ducks are doing right now. They seem to be trying to retool not rebuild. And Lindholm is a guy you keep around if you're only retooling. Just too much term to other guys in their late 20's early 30s that leads me to think they're not going to blow it up entirely.

My gut is, if they move Lindholm it would need to be in a trade to bring back a young top 6 forward like Nylander. An impact player who would be part of the new core. Not a complimentary player. TDA is a great secondary scorer. But he's not a core piece. I think Lindholm would cost Kravtsov + our other 1st rounder.
 
Fitzy said:
It needs to be a real top end guy too, so we can shift Lindgren and Smith down into the 2D and 3D roles that fit them well. A stopgap isn't going to cut it.

I'm talking someone measurably better than Brady Skjei, and that's going to cost a pretty penny. Thankfully we have some expendable assets.
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Strome for Brodin seems to fit both teams... Similar ages, similar contracts, Minnesota needs guys up front and we need guys in the back
 
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Igor Shestyorkin said:
Do you seriously think we'd have to give up THAT much for Elias Lindholm? Is he an elite player to you???
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Absolutely crazy. ADA was literally a top 10 D in value last season and we are going to be adding to him to get Elias f***ing Lindholm? Lindholm is good don't get me wrong, but the value seems misplaced.
 
If possible, i would like to add a left handed center for the 2nd line. I know it doesn't really matter but i just want a variety on this team
 
Also, what about Alexander Wennberg? Not a bad contract, young. I think he can do good with a change of scenery and we have the wingers to maybe help him out. Doubt he would cost a lot to acquire.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Panarin-Wennberg-Kakko
Lafreniere-Chytil-Fast/Kravstov
Lemieux-Howden-Gauthier

if Fast leaves and Kravstov isn't ready, put Chytil at 3RW and sign a cheap veteran 3rd line center.
 
Elias Lindholm is a right wing, is he not?

Played center for Carolina and wasn’t good there, didn’t break out until he was switched to wing.

Unless I am I missing something, why are we trading for a guy to play him at a position that he is worse at?
 
NYR Viper said:
This would seem to be a fit
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TheTakedown said:
Strome for Brodin seems to fit both teams... Similar ages, similar contracts, Minnesota needs guys up front and we need guys in the back
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Moving Strome for Brodin is changing one hole for another. Rangers don’t have anyone that can play 2C if they deal Strome. Brodin is a nice name, but don’t see the point if that means need to make another trade to fill another hole. Also have seen some concern about my the Brodin-Trouba fit. Trouba May be better off with some one more offensive minded/puck carrying.
 
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Savant said:
Moving Strome for Brodin is changing one hole for another. Rangers don’t have anyone that can play 2C if they deal Strome. Brodin is a nice name, but don’t see the point if that means need to make another trade to fill another hole. Also have seen some concern about my the Brodin-Trouba fit. Trouba May be better off with some one more offensive minded/puck carrying.
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Yeah, I think any Strome trade is dependent on Gorton getting another center.
 
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Igor Shestyorkin said:
Do you seriously think we'd have to give up THAT much for Elias Lindholm? Is he an elite player to you???
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Elias Lindholm is 25 years old, turning 26 in December. He put up 78 points in 81 games last season. He finished this season top 25 in scoring for centers. If you want to throw around point production, that's more points than Bo Horvat, Claude Giroux, Dylan Larkin, Tyler Seguin, Pierre Luc-Dubois, and Sean Monahan.

Lindholm is signed at a very friendly $4.8M for the next 4 years and is putting up very good production without the luxury of passing the puck to Artemi Panarin. Respectfully, I don't think it's an overpayment.
 
Savant said:
Elias Lindholm is a right wing, is he not?

Played center for Carolina and wasn’t good there, didn’t break out until he was switched to wing.

Unless I am I missing something, why are we trading for a guy to play him at a position that he is worse at?
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I’d be curious to see his ice time breakdown by position. Hockey Reference doesn’t have that split.
 
This board has long overvalued defenseman points. Their first job is to keep the puck out of the net and TDA is not good at it. He's average on his best days. Things would be much better if Lundkvist came over but the NHL season is starting late so he probably will get a good amount of time next season if the corona crap isn't out of hand. I don't see anyway TDA will be here for much longer.
 
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RGY said:
I’d be curious to see his ice time breakdown by position. Hockey Reference doesn’t have that split.
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don't think you're going to find a breakdown of TOI by position anywhere. He was fourth on calgary in even strength faceoffs taken, but second in pp faceoffs taken, and first in shorthanded faceoffs. Granted, it could be a situation like in Vancouver where JT Miller takes Pettersson's faceoffs and then they switch for positioning, but either way I don't think it makes much of a difference.
 
Ranger Spice said:
Elias Lindholm for Alex Georgiev and the rights to Ryan Strome.

Who says no?
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Calgary. And the player that Calgary has shown great interest in, (which @Edge has already stated here) is Buchnevich. And, he also revealed that the Rangers have already inquired about Lindholm. So, if a deal was to be done, it's likely going to centered around those two players.
 
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BBKers said:
A. Mantha might be a target, I heard just now. Would cost a bit, but interesting... He is likely on the older side in Detroits rebuild process. Fits better into our timeline. Younger assets would go the other way
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Ive always liked Mantha. I’d be curious who goes the other way. Andersson for sure
 
Savant said:
Moving Strome for Brodin is changing one hole for another. Rangers don’t have anyone that can play 2C if they deal Strome. Brodin is a nice name, but don’t see the point if that means need to make another trade to fill another hole. Also have seen some concern about my the Brodin-Trouba fit. Trouba May be better off with some one more offensive minded/puck carrying.
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I think this type of deal would be predicated on someone like ADA being moved for a center. Say for arguments sake that is Elias Lindholm +.

As far as Brodie is concerned I’m less concerned with who he specifically plays with as I am just finding a good two-way d-man. An argument could be made that a Lindgren-Trouba pairing makes sense while a Bronson-Fox pairing makes sense as well
 
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