Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part IX: Trying To Reason With The Upcoming Season

[Oscar Lindberg]

Yeah I’ll second that, Button’s rankings are...something

Turcotte at 12 is a head scratcher, even more so is Newhook at 28 lol

 

[haveandare]

The old "this is the year the Blue Jackets take a huge step!" prediction. I'll believe it when I see it. They were supposed to be great next year for the past like 5 years.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The old "this is the year the Blue Jackets take a huge step!" prediction. I'll believe it when I see it. They were supposed to be great next year for the past like 5 years.

They were pretty good last year

 

[haveandare]

They were pretty good last year

Pretty good regular season, but did nothing in the playoffs yet again.

 

[Machinehead]

Do you post anything that isn't negative?

The Rangers being terrible IS positive to him. It's what he's always wanted. Something something process.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Well if you think long term, it is absolutely good that we suck short term.

 

[Machinehead]

Well if you think long term, it is absolutely good that we suck short term.

That doesn't mean we have to be happy about it, but some folks have rooted for this team to be terrible for a long time, even when they were good.

 

[SA16]

Is it good if the Rangers are the worst team in the league and Chytil/Andersson/Howden/Pionk/DeAngelo etc. fail to make the team or make the team and are huge disappointments?

 

[Machinehead]

Is it good if the Rangers are the worst team in the league and Chytil/Andersson/Howden/Pionk/DeAngelo etc. fail to make the team or make the team and are huge disappointments?

For some, absolutely. We'll get another high pick that might fail.

Nobody wants to acknowledge any downsides or any notion that rebuilds fail.

I'd rather pick 9th again if it means the five guys you mentioned were all great.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

That doesn't mean we have to be happy about it, but some folks have rooted for this team to be terrible for a long time, even when they were good.

Why do you give a f***?

 

[Machinehead]

Why do you give a ****?

Because I feel some people root against this team on this team's own forum, and I don't think that's fair to the fans of this team.

 

[darko]

That doesn't mean we have to be happy about it, but some folks have rooted for this team to be terrible for a long time, even when they were good.

Don't bother.

 

[haohmaru]

The Rangers being terrible IS positive to him. It's what he's always wanted. Something something process.

What's negative about wanting a team of 18-22 year olds on one year contracts with a shitload of draft picks?

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

That doesn't mean we have to be happy about it, but some folks have rooted for this team to be terrible for a long time, even when they were good.

I’ll never forget the discussions about blowing the roster up and tanking during both the 2014 and 2015 playoff runs.

For some, absolutely. We'll get another high pick that might fail.

Nobody wants to acknowledge any downsides or any notion that rebuilds fail.

I'd rather pick 9th again if it means the five guys you mentioned were all great.

Bingo. Especially the last point.

Not to mention we can both root for the team to be good, maybe even fight for a playoff spot and also want Gorton to proceed with the process. It’s not necessarily necessary that we be literal hot garbage for this to work.

I get that some people have their mind made up that you need to fully bottom out and ignore the examples of teams that botttomed out and got tons of high picks and still suck and won’t acknowledge that fact that team building isn’t as easy as following one blueprint, there’s a lot of randomness and luck involved and there are different blueprints and paths you can follow.

Because I feel some people root against this team on this team's own forum, and I don't think that's fair to the fans of this team.

I hate it so much.

 

[LORDE]

People are in for a long year if they think this team is anything but bottom 5

 

[RangerBoy]

Didn't Colorado pick 4th after having one of the worst records in history, post-cap?

Awful luck

 

[Tawnos]

Awful luck

You’ve been a Rangers fan for a long time. What in the world makes you think we won’t have awful luck too?

 

[mas0764]

You’ve been a Rangers fan for a long time. What in the world makes you think we won’t have awful luck too?

We are overdue for some good luck?

 

[I Eat Crow]

We are overdue for some good luck?

Nonsense. The Rangers used up 25 years of luck on Henrik Lundqvist.

 

[Webster]

I expected them to sign a top d-man, didn't happen. Right now our blueline is worse than the bad one we had last year after losing McDonagh. I feel sorry for Hank, he's probably going to toss the net over the boards at some point if they fail to help him out.

 

[Tawnos]

I expected them to sign a top d-man, didn't happen. Right now our blueline is worse than the bad one we had last year after losing McDonagh. I feel sorry for Hank, he's probably going to toss the net over the boards at some point if they fail to help him out.

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It’s exactly the same one, plus a healthy Shattenkirk.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

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It’s exactly the same one, plus a healthy Shattenkirk.

Plus Pionk and ADA are a year older and should be better, Smith should be better than last year.

Then you factor in the defensive zone play will likely be different.

I'm not expecting a good defensive team or anything, but I am expecting them to be better than last year.

 

[bobbop]

Is it good if the Rangers are the worst team in the league and Chytil/Andersson/Howden/Pionk/DeAngelo etc. fail to make the team or make the team and are huge disappointments?

The only acceptable outcome for this season is a) the Rangers play hard every night and are at a minimum competitive, b) young players take strides. If these things happen, I can accept a bottom five finish. If these things don't happen, we've got a big problem and the current management team will have an even bigger problem.

 

[NYR]

The only acceptable outcome for this season is a) the Rangers play hard every night and are at a minimum competitive, b) young players take strides. If these things happen, I can accept a bottom five finish. If these things don't happen, we've got a big problem and the current management team will have an even bigger problem.

No PTO's.
After watching these kids in Traverse, do you really see any of them capable of making the big club or are they just going throw them into the fire?
I don't see them as being ready to make the jump and unlike some of the other posters, I do think that this tournament is extremely important for evaluation.
It's it sole purpose for existing.

Excuses are getting old around here.
Every other team goes into this on the same exact terms and to blame the coaching or saying that there's no chemistry or it's a weak roster just doesn't fly in my book.

Clark was super pissed last year to the point where they even removed his interview from the NYR website so if anyone actually thinks that these tournaments aren't important to the organization are completely out to lunch IMO..

 

[Machinehead]

It's ok, we've got Cody "Glue" McLeod to push for a spot.