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Last night on TSN Insider trading, they mentioned Kayliev as wanting a trade. He's been a healthy scratch for LAK, but LAK are hesitant to move him. I think he would be a great add to at least the 3rd line (maybe fit with KZ). Young kid who has a shoot first mentality with a quality shot. Prob needs to work on his two-way play more but if he becomes available what do you think would be a fair offer for him?
 
RangerBoy said:
Chris Kreider and Jacob Trouba. Their NMC's expire this summer. 15 team no trade list for both players. Three more seasons for Kreider. Two more seasons for Trouba. Which player would you trade?

I would trade Kreider. I know he is a home-grown Ranger. Goal scoring record. Open up a LW spot in the top 6. Panarin isn't going anywhere for the next two seasons.

Trouba is the only Ranger who likes to play a physical game. The Rangers are already a soft team.

The Rangers are stale. Drury needs to make major moves reshaping the team. Summer time moves.
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absolutely agree if Leetch can be traded as MVP of SC so can 20. It may wake up 93. Unless there is a big overpayment you keep 8. We need young talent full stop. Bread's amazing start has been fools gold...any team with size, patience and good coaching will beat us in a 7 game series.
 
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Gospel of Prospal said:
Kakko is not a top-6 F. Sorry. He's not.


Brodzinski and Goodrow are not NHL regulars.
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He’s a middle 6 defensive forward. He’s a bigger version of fast, who everyone cries that we let go. He might eventually find his offensive gear a little later in his career and he has occasionally made some moves to flash, but I definitely am seeing that he’s still a bit too passive and slow on his release to get clean shots off now.
 
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After this season and after Zibanejad's signing bonus is paid, he will have 6 years left on his deal with a TOTAL salary owed to him of $39.5m. That's an average salary of $6.58m per year for 6 years. The NMC is in place, yes, players have waived their NMC's in the past. There are A LOT of teams who I am sure would be interested in Zibanejad at $8.5m cap but with an actual salary owed of ~$2m less per season.
 
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NYR Viper said:
After this season and after Zibanejad's signing bonus is paid, he will have 6 years left on his deal with a TOTAL salary owed to him of $39.5m. That's an average salary of $6.58m per year for 6 years. The NMC is in place, yes, players have waived their NMC's in the past. There are A LOT of teams who I am sure would be interested in Zibanejad at $8.5m cap but with an actual salary owed of ~$2m less per season.
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Yeah, but the real question is will he be interested in moving?
 
RangerBoy said:
Chris Kreider and Jacob Trouba. Their NMC's expire this summer. 15 team no trade list for both players. Three more seasons for Kreider. Two more seasons for Trouba. Which player would you trade?

I would trade Kreider. I know he is a home-grown Ranger. Goal scoring record. Open up a LW spot in the top 6. Panarin isn't going anywhere for the next two seasons.

Trouba is the only Ranger who likes to play a physical game. The Rangers are already a soft team.

The Rangers are stale. Drury needs to make major moves reshaping the team. Summer time moves.
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Unless we can convince MEEka to waive his NMC and somehow get a top-6 center in return, trading Kreider will have to be the move.

Only real idea I have is selling 93 on SoCal, warm weather, solid local DJs to learn from. Trade him to the Ducks for Zegras, and pray that Zegras can play center.
 
Guyute said:
Unless we can convince MEEka to waive his NMC and somehow get a top-6 center in return, trading Kreider will have to be the move.

Only real idea I have is selling 93 on SoCal, warm weather, solid local DJs to learn from. Trade him to the Ducks for Zegras, and pray that Zegras can play center.
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I think the move is to go into a rebuild so most of the NMC get waived.

You start by getting rid of the guys that you can... Kreider and Trouba both have value around the league. You get rid of them, Mika maybe is ok with a trade.
 
RangerBoy said:
Chris Kreider and Jacob Trouba. Their NMC's expire this summer. 15 team no trade list for both players. Three more seasons for Kreider. Two more seasons for Trouba. Which player would you trade?

I would trade Kreider. I know he is a home-grown Ranger. Goal scoring record. Open up a LW spot in the top 6. Panarin isn't going anywhere for the next two seasons.

Trouba is the only Ranger who likes to play a physical game. The Rangers are already a soft team.

The Rangers are stale. Drury needs to make major moves reshaping the team. Summer time moves.
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I would trade Trouba because he’s terrible and eating up 8M in cap space.
 
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Machinehead said:
Again, people are not trading Kreider because "look, this stinks, let's just change course entirely." That I could be convinced of.

They're trading Kreider thinking it makes the team better and that's absolutely hilarious.
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Yep, there is no reason to trade Kreider unless something amazing is coming back the other way. Like part of a package for McDavid.
Trouba would be addition by subtraction, you could sign a $2 million D to do what he does.
 
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I'd trade Zibanejad to Tampa for Stamkos just to get out of the contract. Tampa has nice weather and no taxes. Good club scene too.
 
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Shesterkybomb said:
I wouldn't trade kreider, but i would split him from Zibanejad. He works harder when he isn't playing with him, not sure if it's him trying to get back on his line or if he just lets Zibs do all the skating but he plays a better game with Trochek. I'd call up Rempe, i mean with Bonino and Pitlick what are we clinging to? Rempe is younger, bigger and will actually hit someone.

Next game should be

Kreider Trochek Kakko
Panarin Zibanejad Lafreniere
Cuylle Brodzinski Wheeler
Vesey Goodrow Rempe
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keep mika away from panarin - we need chytil back badly
 
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Paulie Walnutz said:
Could WiFi be an option outta Montreal? I’m not trying to spell his name. I know he’s been in the minors, too shitty?
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He's tough but defensively he leaves a lot to be desired. He'd be a guy you would need to shelter and you hope that he can develop into a heavyweight who can take a regular 3rd pairing shift.
 
Gospel of Prospal said:
Kakko is not a top-6 F. Sorry. He's not.


Brodzinski and Goodrow are not NHL regulars.
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If you're going to keep KK, bury him on the 3rd line, where he can do his fancy stat stuff that says he's pretty good.

Don't know what voodoo its
going to get a top 6 RW with the Rangers having 11 bucks to spend at the deadline.
 
Daves a mess said:
If you're going to keep KK, bury him on the 3rd line, where he can do his fancy stat stuff that says he's pretty good.

Don't know what voodoo its
going to get a top 6 RW with the Rangers having 11 bucks to spend at the deadline.
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They need to find a way to get rid of Goodrow's contract, hopefully to bring back Tarasenko at 50% retention and center depth (I want Ridly Greig but his stock keeps rising), even if it means moving a prospect in Hartford like Berard or Edstrom (but not Othmann) and a pick to do it (which is certainly will).

Tarasenko gives them someone who can beat a goalie clean from the circle without needing a screen, a royal road pass, a rebound, or a deflection.

If they're able to bring him back, I also stick Lafreniere with him for 30 minutes before or after practice just to work on shooting.

There is absolutely a need for a 200 foot player who can absolutely snipe, even if he's lost a step, on this roster.

Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere
Kreider-Chytil-Tarasenko
Cuylle-Zibanejad-Kakko
Vesey-Greig-Wheeler

PP1:
Kreider - Panarin/Trocheck/Lafreniere - Fox
Cuylle - Zibanejad/Chytil/Tarasenko - Gustafsson
 
Chytil can't comeback soon enough to provide some combination options.

Outside of it or even independent of it I think it's time to move Lafreniere to Zibanejad line and Kakko to Panarin's.
 
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TopShelfSnipes said:
They need to find a way to get rid of Goodrow's contract, hopefully to bring back Tarasenko at 50% retention and center depth (I want Ridly Greig but his stock keeps rising), even if it means moving a prospect in Hartford like Berard or Edstrom (but not Othmann) and a pick to do it (which is certainly will).

Tarasenko gives them someone who can beat a goalie clean from the circle without needing a screen, a royal road pass, a rebound, or a deflection.

If they're able to bring him back, I also stick Lafreniere with him for 30 minutes before or after practice just to work on shooting.

There is absolutely a need for a 200 foot player who can absolutely snipe, even if he's lost a step, on this roster.

Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere
Kreider-Chytil-Tarasenko
Cuylle-Zibanejad-Kakko
Vesey-Greig-Wheeler

PP1:
Kreider - Panarin/Trocheck/Lafreniere - Fox
Cuylle - Zibanejad/Chytil/Tarasenko - Gustafsson
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love these lines - ideally wheeler is replaced with a high energy banger
 
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