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Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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NYR Viper said:
The player to waive is Goodrow. He won't be claimed and he helps the team accrue more cap space even if he doesn't physically go down to the AHL and it's just a paper transaction.
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As a general take (not saying you think this), you cant think moving Lindgren will disrupt the locker room and then be fine with waiving Goodrow because of one bad loss. He wears an A and has 2 Cup wins. We may not care but that matters to his teammates.
 
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McRanger92 said:
As a general take (not saying you think this), you cant think moving Lindgren will disrupt the locker room and then be fine with waiving Goodrow because of one bad loss. He wears an A and has 2 Cup wins. We may not care but that matters to his teammates.
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I get all of this but waiving Goodrow doesn't mean he goes to the AHL. It's a pure transactional paper move that helps the team accrue cap space
 
McRanger92 said:
As a general take (not saying you think this), you cant think moving Lindgren will disrupt the locker room and then be fine with waiving Goodrow because of one bad loss. He wears an A and has 2 Cup wins. We may not care but that matters to his teammates.
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That shit ain’t winning games and I doubt the locker room put that A on his chest. Good money after bad.
 
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Machinehead said:
If you think they're 25-10-1 going through the motions, then you think they're a lot better than they are.
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Some players more than others .

I mean how many individual players on this team can you definitively say are playing better under Lav than they did under gallant last season?

Panarin, Trochek, and Laf for sure.

Outside of them? I’d say most have taken a step back or are injured.

Yet they’re still in first place.

Maybe it’s luck, maybe it’s the system , maybe it’s Jonathan Quick.

But I think they have more to give, so yes they are pretty good and maybe underrated.
 
The team really put out their A+ game earlier in the season, especially when Fox was out.

Now that they're fairly comfortable in the standings, you're going to see a lot more packing it in when the game gets to a certain point in either direction, like you did in Tampa and last night. It's the smart thing to do.

It doesn't mean they're a soft or lazy team. The stat was posted the other day: they're like a million and 20 since the Tom Wilson thing. Soft, lazy teams don't consistently win.
 
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KirkAlbuquerque said:
Some players more than others .

I mean how many individual players on this team can you definitively say are playing better under Lav than they did under gallant last season?

Panarin, Trochek, and Laf for sure.

Outside of them? I’d say most have taken a step back or are injured.

Yet they’re still in first place.

Maybe it’s luck, maybe it’s the system , maybe it’s Jonathan Quick.

But I think they have more to give, so yes they are pretty good and maybe underrated.
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Some players are playing the same because that's who they are, but I can't think of a single guy who's worse, except maybe Lindgren, and the cause of that could be a number of things.

I would say the team as a whole is night and day from Gallant hockey. The team still has flaws; a lot of the same flaws people have already talked about, but at least I enjoy it now. They got pretty damn close to unwatchable last year. That's not all Gallant's fault, either. Tarasenko was never a fit and Kane nuked the lineup. Basically, from the Kane trade through to the end of the season, it was disjointed, boring bullshit.

Panarin had the hat-trick in Carolina in a game that otherwise sucked, then a horrible Canadian trip that included three losses and an ass ugly win in Vancouver, then the 4-1 loss in Detroit where Andrew Copp had three points (that was the game I pretty much closed the book on the 2022-23 Rangers). Immediately after that they got smoked in Washington in the game Lindgren was hurt. Then came the K'Andre Miller spit game which was fine, followed immediately by more losing. Then they had that back to back where they outscored the Pens and Predators 13-0 and that gave everyone false hope, although let's be honest, they scored on six straight shot attempts against Nashville. Vesus wept. And then, yeah, .500 the rest of the way.

Panarin's hat-trick was on Feb. 11th. The season ended Apr. 13 followed immediately by the NJ series which was one game we stole, two good games, and four games that were bonafide torture porn.

A solid almost three months, all told, where watching the Rangers was my least favorite thing to do.

Prior to last night, what was the last game under Laviolette that was hard to finish? It's a lot different.
 
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Machinehead said:
Some players are playing the same because that's who they are, but I can't think of a single guy who's worse, except maybe Lindgren, and the cause of that could be a number of things.

I would say the team as a whole is night and day from Gallant hockey. The team still has flaws; a lot of the same flaws people have already talked about, but at least I enjoy it now. They got pretty damn close to unwatchable last year. That's not all Gallant's fault, either. Tarasenko was never a fit and Kane nuked the lineup. Basically, from the Kane trade through to the end of the season, it was disjointed, boring bullshit.

Panarin had the hat-trick in Carolina in a game that otherwise sucked, then a horrible Canadian trip that included three losses and an ass ugly win in Vancouver, then the 4-1 loss in Detroit where Andrew Copp had three points (that was the game I pretty much closed the book on the 2022-23 Rangers). Immediately after that they got smoked in Washington in the game Lindgren was hurt. Then came the K'Andre Miller spit game which was fine, followed immediately by more losing. Then they had that back to back where they outscored the Pens and Predators 13-0 and that gave everyone false hope, although let's be honest, they scored on six straight shot attempts against Nashville. Vesus wept. And then, yeah, .500 the rest of the way.

Panarin's hat-trick was on Feb. 11th. The season ended Apr. 13 followed immediately by the NJ series which was one game we stole, two good games, and four games that were bonafide torture porn.

A solid almost three months, all told, where watching the Rangers was my least favorite thing to do.

Prior to last night, what was the last game under Laviolette that was hard to finish? It's a lot different.
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i think we've had a good number of unwatchable performances this season, not just last night.
 
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KirkAlbuquerque said:
i think we've had a good number of unwatchable performances this season, not just last night.
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We had that really bad run where we got beat up by Toronto, Ottawa, and Washington and technically beat the Sharks. Beyond that...??? It's not that bad.

I still think they won their worst game of the season. I'm still having visions of the Sabres hitting the post.
 
McRanger92 said:
As a general take (not saying you think this), you cant think moving Lindgren will disrupt the locker room and then be fine with waiving Goodrow because of one bad loss. He wears an A and has 2 Cup wins. We may not care but that matters to his teammates.
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Found Michelettis burner. Can we just stop with the cup win nonsense already.
 
Machinehead said:
The team really put out their A+ game earlier in the season, especially when Fox was out.

Now that they're fairly comfortable in the standings, you're going to see a lot more packing it in when the game gets to a certain point in either direction, like you did in Tampa and last night. It's the smart thing to do.

It doesn't mean they're a soft or lazy team. The stat was posted the other day: they're like a million and 20 since the Tom Wilson thing. Soft, lazy teams don't consistently win.
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games like the other night are kinda frustrating because they were obviously just fighting it and Carolina was on that night and so you think "lazy f***ers just aren't trying hard enough!" but it's 82 games, some are bad and sometimes you run into a team that's having a good night.
I remember when Lindros got raked over the coals because he said "it's a long season, you can't go 100% every game" but it's true...even if you try to go 100% every game everyone has ups and downs that might not even be linked to anything in particular, bad days/games happen

If the Rangers go into a freefall and start strugglign all over the place then I'll worry but right now they're just not quite as dominant as they were to start hte season but still doing fine.
 
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Fix the lines....Zib and Kreider can't do it together at even strength. Move laf and Panarin with Zibs. Kreider Trochek and Cuylle, Vesey Goodrow Wheeler, and i dont care whos on the 4th, just play them limited mins a game. It's not rocket science, we need to be better at even strength, when the pp and pk fail we're sitting ducks
 
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80shockeywasbuns said:
Found Michelettis burner. Can we just stop with the cup win nonsense already.
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Reading comprehension is tough eh. I don’t care about his 2 cup wins but his teammates definitely do. Willful ignorance doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I’m over Goodrow, as I said earlier I’d trade a first today to get rid of his contract. You must’ve missed that one.

Othmann call up. Drury was watching closely last night I reckon.
 
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