Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[SML2]

No. He isn't good, and he would likely not be good with the current roster.

Also why the f*** are we signing a free-agent in the middle of the season? The roster is fine. If anything, make roster changes at the trade deadline (note: the roster is fine and Drury shouldn't do anything tbh).

The team is doing fine, and Corey Perry doesn't solve/help any issues with the forward group, let alone the defensemen issues.

What is the difference between picking him up or making a trade for someone?

What good does it do to have him
Sit and not play games?

You are on one tonight

You know, I should trust the judgement of a guy who calls himself "GoAwayPanarin" in the midst of Panarin having one of the best offensive seasons on recent memory, but I can do without your 2 cents on this one.

 

[IDvsEGO]

My only issue is center, but everywhere else, what should he be doing? His first draft was the Othmann draft. None of the young guys are really ready, but they're 21 at most.

22 and up came from Gorton/JD. He added tons of extra guys, but he needs to basically use them all. This isn't just 2 long term injuries.

Maybe if Henriksson wasn't a bust he'd have been the 4C by now and could be elevated. We'd have no center issues if Andersson wasn't one either. At least for Edstrom it is cause of injury. I think he has a legit shot to be a 3rd/4th liner.

We had to shop in the 800k pool of players. I can't blame Drury for needing to get 5-6 AAAA players because the pool is a year away from being able to impact.

This should be much less of an issue come next camp where you have maturation of younger players and a salary cap increase.

Henricksson would never have been a 4c. He was always a risk/reward pick.
Howden had he actually been developed properly would've been the perfect 4c.

 

[GAGLine]

Something to keep in mind regarding call ups. Hartford is limited in how many vet AHL players they can suit up each night. Therefore, calling up a development player may not be possible.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

He should be in the bottom 6 with reduced minutes

Sign Perry!

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

What is the difference between picking him up or making a trade for someone?


You know, I should trust the judgement of a guy who calls himself "GoAwayPanarin" in the midst of Panarin having one of the best offensive seasons on recent memory, but I can do without your 2 cents on this one.

The f*** are you even talking about?

 

[JimmyG89]

Just so we're clear:

"Drury, in his 2.5 years as GM, has not done anything to give us proper depth, which is arguably the easiest thing to do in free agency if you know who to target."

Having no cap space is not robbing you of any opportunity to bolster your bottom-6. Wheeler, Nash, Belzile, Bonino, and Pitlick are the forwards he signed in free agency. Were these the best free agents available under 1m?

It's basically a wash when you sign someone for that price tag. There really isn't a better option. Getting Wheeler at 800k with bonuses was a huge get on 7/1. Quick has been as good as you could have asked.

You also need guys you know can sneak through waivers but can fill in for 5-10 games. We're hitting the I'd call this guy up for a game or two territory.

Everyone knew Bonino was trash but was signed for two things, his PK and he knows the system. Helps in camp and early on. He'd be sitting if no injuries at this point.

Once they decided to not buyout Goodrow, this had to be the path. The team has overachieved, is missing key pieces, and has the flu running through it.

 

[bernmeister]

Brandon Scanlin has to be called up. He has to be better defensively than Jones.


Need to see what they have with him. He will be RFA with Arbitration rights. For some reason it seems like certain players no matter how good they're doing in Hartford, Rangers seem to ignore them.

expect Scanlin will impress at camp, but it is pushing it to ask for him before

the eff up here is not giving Robertson mins over Jones

 

[RangersFan1994]

expect Scanlin will impress at camp, but it is pushing it to ask for him before

the eff up here is not giving Robertson mins over Jones

Scanlin has been better than Robertson in the AHL. Robertson drafted in 2019 and still hasn't played 1 game in the NHL with LD being weak. Has to go through waivers next summer. He will be dealt at the deadline. The Rangers rather go with Harpur or Mackey is very telling.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Scanlin has been better than Robertson in the AHL. Robertson drafted in 2019 and still hasn't played 1 game in the NHL with LD being weak. Has to go through waivers next summer. He will be dealt at the deadline. The Rangers rather go with Harpur or Mackey is very telling.

Scanlin is good defensively, reads the game well, and is positionally sound. He's lacking for offense and lacking on physical tools (speed, agility, shot, passing), but serviceable if need be.

Robertson still handles the puck like a grenade and is a faster skater, but not very agile yet. He's physical and has a decent shot, but won't get in position enough to use it in the AHL and is guilty of some horrific turnovers.

Scanlin is fine for AHL depth and one of Hartford's better defensive defensemen. Robertson is a potential two-way physical defenseman, but he's plateaued the last couple years and needs to get over the hump if he wants to take his career to the next level.

 

[Guyute]

Scanlin is good defensively, reads the game well, and is positionally sound. He's lacking for offense and lacking on physical tools (speed, agility, shot, passing), but serviceable if need be.

Robertson still handles the puck like a grenade and is a faster skater, but not very agile yet. He's physical and has a decent shot, but won't get in position enough to use it in the AHL and is guilty of some horrific turnovers.

Scanlin is fine for AHL depth and one of Hartford's better defensive defensemen. Robertson is a potential two-way physical defenseman, but he's plateaued the last couple years and needs to get over the hump if he wants to take his career to the next level.

Is there any chance he can become the next Lindgren? Someone like Lindgren should have a cap hit below $2 million.

Between dealing Lindgren and buying out Goodrow this summer, there’s an easy $5 million in cap savings.

 

[Guyute]

Is there any chance he can become the next Lindgren? Someone like Lindgren should have a cap hit below $2 million.

Between dealing Lindgren and buying out Goodrow this summer, there’s an easy $5 million in cap savings.

Unless, of course, someone is dumb enough to trade for Goodrow. You never know, it only takes one idiot and there are 31 potential idiot GMs. Most of these guys aren’t rocket surgeons either….

 

[SML2]

The f*** are you even talking about?

Alright, Im going to own my part in this.

I started a thread asking about Corey Perry. Some OCD mod moved it to the roster building thread and put my question in between the previous discussion and your reply, thus making it look like you were replying to me.
The way you replied made me reply with a possible oversnarky comment. I didn't know when I did it you weren't replying to me.

So, my mistake. Sorry.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Alright, Im going to own my part in this.

I started a thread asking about Corey Perry. Some OCD mod moved it to the roster building thread and put my question in between the previous discussion and your reply, thus making it look like you were replying to me.
The way you replied made me reply with a possible oversnarky comment. I didn't know when I did it you weren't replying to me.

So, my mistake. Sorry.

No worries, you're good.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Is there any chance he can become the next Lindgren? Someone like Lindgren should have a cap hit below $2 million.

Between dealing Lindgren and buying out Goodrow this summer, there’s an easy $5 million in cap savings.

Scanlin? Or Robertson?

Peak Lindgren was a better skater than both, and beats both on agility even today. Robertson has a better shot, but everything else is inferior to Lindgren right now. Scanlin is similarly weak offensively as Lindgren is, his reads are 3rd pair D NHL level, but everything else isn't.

Neither would be ready to play a key role this year. Scanlin is a good AHLer, but would be weak in the NHL. Robertson would be a dumpster fire in the NHL right now, but at least has some upside, though he's got to take some strides in his game because he really hasn't improved much in the last 12 months or so.

If we're looking to move Lindgren and fill his LD spot and make a decent run this year, neither Scanlin nor Robertson is the answer.

 

[Guyute]

Scanlin? Or Robertson?

Peak Lindgren was a better skater than both, and beats both on agility even today. Robertson has a better shot, but everything else is inferior to Lindgren right now. Scanlin is similarly weak offensively as Lindgren is, his reads are 3rd pair D NHL level, but everything else isn't.

Neither would be ready to play a key role this year. Scanlin is a good AHLer, but would be weak in the NHL. Robertson would be a dumpster fire in the NHL right now, but at least has some upside, though he's got to take some strides in his game because he really hasn't improved much in the last 12 months or so.

If we're looking to move Lindgren and fill his LD spot and make a decent run this year, neither Scanlin nor Robertson is the answer.

Sorry for being unclear, I meant the potential for Scanlin to be a Lindgren replacement beginning next year. Thanks for the info.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Sorry for being unclear, I meant the potential for Scanlin to be a Lindgren replacement beginning next year. Thanks for the info.

Ah, gotcha.

Unlikely unless he significantly improves his skating ability and outlet passing. Scanlin goes to the right areas, but he'll get beat wide by anyone with above average NHL speed, especially the way the Rangers' system seems to involve pinching the D/standing up to hold the puck in the offensive zone more this year, absent something changing tactically.

 

[Avery16]

https://x.com/wolfpackahl/status/1745929939570860246?s=46&t=WWGwhyQiVsqtB6-tfs442w

I wanted Blidh to get a call up this season, but he hasn’t shown much in Hartford recently. Also can’t believe we could see Leschyshyn for another game.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

https://x.com/wolfpackahl/status/1745929939570860246?s=46&t=WWGwhyQiVsqtB6-tfs442w

I wanted Blidh to get a call up this season, but he hasn’t shown much in Hartford recently. Also can’t believe we could see Leschyshyn for another game.

Blidh definitely > Leschyshyn, especially on a 4th line role. Blidh at least has speed and hits people, which is good for energy. Leschyshyn literally does nothing.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

How is clearing space such a revolutionary concept to some people?

It’s definitely revolutionary to Ryan Martin

 

[n8]

No. He isn't good, and he would likely not be good with the current roster.

Also why the f*** are we signing a free-agent in the middle of the season? The roster is fine. If anything, make roster changes at the trade deadline (note: the roster is fine and Drury shouldn't do anything tbh).

The team is doing fine, and Corey Perry doesn't solve/help any issues with the forward group, let alone the defensemen issues.

You say doing fine but I also see a 4th line with Bonino-Leschyshyn-Zac Jones a defenseman. I'm not saying Perry is the solve but I'm saying our current alternatives do not inspire confidence.

 

[Avery16]

Blidh definitely > Leschyshyn, especially on a 4th line role. Blidh at least has speed and hits people, which is good for energy. Leschyshyn literally does nothing.

Laviolette will have you know that Leschyshyn is our best all-around player in Hartford.

I was surprised too.

 

[RangerBoy]

So the flyers essentially tried to play games with his elc status.
Yeah he has a right to tell them to F off.
They could’ve risked him waiting another two years, and him walking to ufa.
That’s not a baby, the flyers did something stupid, and then there’s a consequence.
You don’t draft someone in the top 5, have them have a great d+1 and then say “we want you to wait another year to start your nhl contract so we don’t have to pay you as quickly”.
If that was the plan, you need his buy in before you draft him.

What? The Flyers would have signed the player last summer and started the contract for this season. Players do sign ATO's to play in the AHL and begin the ELC the following season. The bonuses would have started in October.

His buy in? He is 18 years old. He was born in 2004 when the NHL locked out the players to get the salary cap. He doesn’t have a clue how this stuff works. Gauthier has a reputation now. PLD has a reputation. A few days ago against TB, the Kings dropped him to the 4th line and everyone went wild because he requested trades twice in his career. His third team is really happy with him.

The Flyers were in the process of firing their GM and changing their organizational structure.

Gauthier refused to meet with the Flyers during international tournaments. Go out for a Starbucks. He didn't attend their prospect camp last summer. He can't articulate his reasons to the Flyers in person. That's a baby.

Starting the contract early isn't as a big a benefit as it seems. The player needs 7 seasons accrued or 27 to become a free agent. An accrued season is 40 NHL games on the roster. Gauthier isn't becoming a free agent sooner by beginning the contract a few months earlier.

 

[bernmeister]

Scanlin is good defensively, reads the game well, and is positionally sound. He's lacking for offense and lacking on physical tools (speed, agility, shot, passing), but serviceable if need be.

Robertson still handles the puck like a grenade and is a faster skater, but not very agile yet. He's physical and has a decent shot, but won't get in position enough to use it in the AHL and is guilty of some horrific turnovers.

Scanlin is fine for AHL depth and one of Hartford's better defensive defensemen. Robertson is a potential two-way physical defenseman, but he's plateaued the last couple years and needs to get over the hump if he wants to take his career to the next level.

Well said.
Given reality Jones = not so much, we MUST give Rob mins Now
SINK OR SWIM
HE CAN'T BE WORSE THAN JONES

Give Scanlin 1st pair max mins for now
4 games cup o coffee vs weaker team to give him a taste/incentive, fine, but Scan gets mins now
Gambling on the upside of Robertson to kick in is the only short term hope here, Obi Wan

 

[Avery16]

Monahan blows

That and Monahan won’t be under the radar. He’ll be shopped for highest bidder in a relatively weak rental market. He’ll come here and probably be Strome II, only maybe w/o chemistry with Panarin.

 

[Savant]

Laviolette will have you know that Leschyshyn is our best all-around player in Hartford.

I was surprised too.

I mean the only think I would say to this is the Rangers are basically down to what the 18th/19th-ish forwards on the depth chart due to injury? not many teams would be that much better off when you have to go that far down

But you can remedy this a bit if you can get Corey Perry in on a decent deal