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Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)
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effen
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Giving up assets for Brady Skjei part 2 and then paying Brady Skjei part 2 market price is a suckers move.
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It's all so tiresome
I would agree, Hanifin is not the right target. He is a lot of flash in terms of how he skates, however the rest of his game is not that impressive.
McRanger92
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We just need another legit defenseman. Trouba has been better recently but we can’t stomach him and Lindgren in the top 4. This team has what it takes but the D is a big hindrance right now
This shouldn’t be a shock he’s not known for his D. He’s an offensive guy
Probably good to get a 6th LD and Gus spares
McRanger92
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New partner for Fox. Lindy-Schneider 3rd pair. Gus/Jones #7
Unfortunately Lindy is probably best as a bottom pairing guy who plays lots of PK minutes going forward. He’s taken a beating so far in his career.
Miller still has a lot of lapses defensively. He needs to probably play middle pairing next to a defensive guy - unfortunately that’s going to likely remain Trouba as Schneider’s D still leaves a bit to be desired as well at times, and he is showing potential to open up his puck moving game a bit.
If you go with:
?? - Fox
Miller - Trouba
Lindgren - Schneider
You’re in a pickle. As it is we’re short a 3C and 2RW. We still don’t have a ton of cap space and we’re adding a top 4 LHD to the list? Kakko is a third liner. Trochek is having a career year, but you probably want a youngish C with middle six upside rather than a pure bottom sixer for the 3C role. Even if you replace Lindgren with Jones or Robertson on the bottom pair, the cap from Lindgren and Chytil probably doesn’t afford us a top 4D and two top-nine caliber forwards.
As long as Mika, Kreider, Trouba and Bread are making silly money, we’re going to have a tough time with this group and getting the right mix.
Miller still has a lot of lapses defensively. He needs to probably play middle pairing next to a defensive guy - unfortunately that’s going to likely remain Trouba as Schneider’s D still leaves a bit to be desired as well at times, and he is showing potential to open up his puck moving game a bit.
If you go with:
?? - Fox
Miller - Trouba
Lindgren - Schneider
You’re in a pickle. As it is we’re short a 3C and 2RW. We still don’t have a ton of cap space and we’re adding a top 4 LHD to the list? Kakko is a third liner. Trochek is having a career year, but you probably want a youngish C with middle six upside rather than a pure bottom sixer for the 3C role. Even if you replace Lindgren with Jones or Robertson on the bottom pair, the cap from Lindgren and Chytil probably doesn’t afford us a top 4D and two top-nine caliber forwards.
As long as Mika, Kreider, Trouba and Bread are making silly money, we’re going to have a tough time with this group and getting the right mix.
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You need Trouba’s money to fill holes
Maybe Perrault is the new RW.
Maybe Perrault is the new RW.
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Not sure, but I heard it's small.
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Laf and Kakko finding their roles in the NHL and Cuylle, Ed, Rempe is helping to bridge the youth with the vets. Were a top team now and have a bright future. Othmann and Perrault in the pipeline as top 6 capable wingers is big. Extending their window in real time.
agreed their development is huge. I still think defense is an issue though. need a top LD to pair with Fox. Lindgren is not a top pair guy on a cup contending team
If thats the cost I make that trade all day then
Hanifin - Fox
Miller - Trouba
Lindgren - Schneider
McRanger92
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With our centers locked up long term, and a ton of young wingers in the system, I think the move is to trade for a top 4 defenseman who they can extend in the summer. We need a two way guy like Hanifin but I’m open to other suggestions. We have the assets to make it happen
I'd push Lindgren out in a trade for Hanifin in a heart beat.
If you have a problem with Gus on the bottom pair, you're really going to have a problem with Lindgren there.
This iteration doesn't really fit with anyone. He's been our worst D on offense and defense since jan 1.
If you have a problem with Gus on the bottom pair, you're really going to have a problem with Lindgren there.
This iteration doesn't really fit with anyone. He's been our worst D on offense and defense since jan 1.
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McRanger92
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Calgary can trade him elsewhere then. In all likelihood he’ll be a Devil. They are the team that should be most desperate to get him.
All of the focus is at forward. There isn't enough money to solve all of the needs. Or enough assets to solve the needs.
irishlaxburger2
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I can’t wait for everyone to realize that Patrick Kane is, yet again, the top line RW that’s available for both low return and salary.
If you want a top RW and multiple other pieces, he’s the obvious answer. And he’s actually playing well.
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Yeah, we don't have as many assets as people think.
We can't really afford to do a lot of 2-for-1s or 3-for-1s anymore. We might have one big move left but then we will be hurting elsewhere. As much as people don't want to hear it, we stopped the talent acquisition phase too early, simply put, and even setting that aside, the Copp, Tarasenko, and Kane rentals were just terrible ideas and terrible values for us. We could really use another 3-4 good prospects right now.
They simply cannot buy this deadline. Yeah, they have talent. But most of that talent isn't at their "last chance," moment quite yet. At the same time, it's not so painstakingly close to winning it all that they just have to try to insulate themselves. They are one of the best 8 or so teams and they could win or lose any round, but you don't throw assets away on a toss-up.
They need to get their youth some experience down the stretch and try to feed minutes to Lafreniere, Kakko, Cuylle, Berard, Othmann, Rempe and Edstrom. Losing Chytil this year really killed them. They would need to go on a legit miracle run without a real 3C. They won't have the firepower at 5v5 in the playoffs - they never did before, they definitely won't now without a real 3C. It would have been nice to have another young center they could have inserted but they don't listen to me or they would have had one or two.
They need to move out Trouba and Goodrow in the offseason at any cost. They have to get out of those salaries. We can table the "is Trouba actually an NHL defenseman," talk but whether he is or isn't, he's too expensive. We can get 2-3 guys who are better than him for his salary. I'm also open to moving Lindgren if he can bring back a package for a long term piece. He has had a very bad year but his prior years were measurably better.
In an ideal world, with the cap going up slightly, you pawn Goodrow off on someone for free (ie, you don't have to pay assets for someone to take him), you trick someone who thinks they need size into paying you a first for Trouba, and Lindgren is swapped for a young center.
Perrault probably isn't ready for next year yet. With Goodrow, and probably Pitlick and Vesey gone, you are looking at
Kreider Zibanejad Kakko
Panarin Trocheck Lafreniere
Cuylle Young Center Othmann
Bottom line some makeup of Brodzinski, Rempe, Edstrom, Berard, journeyman grinder
If Chytil comes back, Cuylle can play bottom line.
Then you use whatever assets you have to go get a top pair defender. Let's say you can use the first you got for Trouba to package for Chychrun (just an example).
Chychrun - Fox
Miller - Schneider
Gustaffson, Robertson, Jones, cheap UDFA
Shesterkybomb
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Was happy to see Rempe up, but you have to wonder what happened when Othmann was called up last time to not have given him this shot.
Nothing they are just letting Othmaan get RW time
Berard and Sykora also simmering
PuckLuck3043
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There are plenty of assets to address some needs if they want. Their 1st rounder, Jones, Robertson, Berard, Sykora, BMB, among others. Even Othmann if they want to go crazy. The only untouchabIe is Perrault. I don't think they should do this but they have the ammo if they want to go for it.
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