Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

What was it from though? Unknown.

He did not go into detail....

 

[DanielBrassard]

Not that I'm actively asking for this, because I'm not sold on Zegras being a guy that makes a difference come playoff time...but, with rumors about him and NYR, Henrique and Vatrano, I wonder if Drury is dangling Kakko + this years 1st as part of a deal for 2 or all 3 of them.

I have no insider source or anything at all, and part of me feels the Vatrano noise is just Rangers fans on twitter wanting a good thing a 2nd time... but would

Kakko + Goodrow + Jones/Robertson + 2024 1st + 2026 cond. 3rd (1st in 2025 if NYR win 2024 or 2025 Stanley Cup) get it done?

Goodrow also has NTC and may not want to go to ANA as a cap dump.

Believe with the 5M the Rangers have in Cap space now, + the 6M cleared with Kakko+Goodrow+Jones/Robertson, Rangers would be able to fit Vatrano @ 50%, Henrique @ 50% + Zegras.

Not saying what Rangers are offering is even enough, or that this all gets done in one deal, or if even any of these 3 players end up as Rangers at any point....just seems to be alot of smoke with ANA players and NYR to go along with Larry reporting Rangers are set to push chips to middle and atleast entertaining a Kakko move

verbeek also seems like a shrewd GM who may not want to retain 50% on 2 contracts without holding the Rangers at a ransom and demanding more than what the Rangers should be willing to pay

No Vatrano, just make it Zegras and Henrique. Both of them would fit at either RW or Center.

 

[Levitate]

Gauthier needed to transform his game and just didn’t do it.

With that size/reach and speed he had every tool to be an effective defensive player in this league.

He didn’t do it.

Wants to be a scorer and he's like 95% of the way there (has great physical tools, can create his own chances, etc) but that last 5% escapes him because he cannot finish at all and still can't. Also not a passer so he can't get by on wracking up assists

 

[Rongomania]

Wants to be a scorer and he's like 95% of the way there (has great physical tools, can create his own chances, etc) but that last 5% escapes him because he cannot finish at all and still can't. Also not a passer so he can't get by on wracking up assists

Pass

 

[The Last Red]

100%.

That pick is most likely going to be Bobrov'd though so the excitement will turn to anger in a few months.

The pick will be included in a package later, most likely.

 

[will1066]

Is it bad that while everybody is guffawing over the first goal. I'm looking at the second goal and wondering why daddy Trocheck looks like he went to the K'Andre Miller school of defense?!?!

The nepotism never ceases to amaze me.

 

[RangersFan1994]

no KK returning Ras even w/1st is overpay
Lindy + Jones
for
Ras + 2nd


NO
Lindy + Jones
for
Ras + 2nd

nice to see finally someone picking up on my overture for J Per + Helleson...


Othamann ++ for Zegras _
hopefully we can incorporate BMB for Helleson + something we can live with for J Per.


Whether or not Per/Hel are "above average" they are useful pieces for us

Hel is hulking righty RD and we are threadbare there
J per fine esp if we deal his bro to MON for profit

I refuse to move Othmann. He adds an element that Rangers don't have much of if any. Id do those Ras deals though. I'd move Kakko before Othmann

 

[McRanger92]

Not that I'm actively asking for this, because I'm not sold on Zegras being a guy that makes a difference come playoff time...but, with rumors about him and NYR, Henrique and Vatrano, I wonder if Drury is dangling Kakko + this years 1st as part of a deal for 2 or all 3 of them.

I have no insider source or anything at all, and part of me feels the Vatrano noise is just Rangers fans on twitter wanting a good thing a 2nd time... but would

Kakko + Goodrow + Jones/Robertson + 2024 1st + 2026 cond. 3rd (1st in 2025 if NYR win 2024 or 2025 Stanley Cup) get it done?

Goodrow also has NTC and may not want to go to ANA as a cap dump.

Believe with the 5M the Rangers have in Cap space now, + the 6M cleared with Kakko+Goodrow+Jones/Robertson, Rangers would be able to fit Vatrano @ 50%, Henrique @ 50% + Zegras.

Not saying what Rangers are offering is even enough, or that this all gets done in one deal, or if even any of these 3 players end up as Rangers at any point....just seems to be alot of smoke with ANA players and NYR to go along with Larry reporting Rangers are set to push chips to middle and atleast entertaining a Kakko move

verbeek also seems like a shrewd GM who may not want to retain 50% on 2 contracts without holding the Rangers at a ransom and demanding more than what the Rangers should be willing to pay

Any trade where you get Zegras and dump Goodrow is ok in my book. You’re probably dealing Othmann/Perrault on top of Kakko and a 1st.

It’s an interesting idea. Shake up the team but in a way that they are much better in paper? Still would need to add on D and in the grit department but Zegras & Henrique/Vatrano @ 50 for Kakko Othmann 1st all while getting rid of a liability in Goodrow sounds good to me

 

[surlysailor]

What about Duclair? Maybe he could be had for less than a first or a good prospect? Would be a rental but that's ok.

The person I was quoting, was asking about centers.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

If Zegras/Henrique is the goal then it’s gonna be Kakko/Scnieder+ but we can get Lybushin back

 

[Vitto79]

No Vatrano, just make it Zegras and Henrique. Both of them would fit at either RW or Center.

Is Zegras playing RW? He’s not a defensive player

It’s costing Kakko and Schneider

Lybushkin could fill in on RD

Henrique gonna cost a 1st after these recent deals I’d pass and get cheaper depth Cs

 

[RangersFan1994]

If Zegras/Henrique is the goal then it’s gonna be Kakko/Scnieder+ but we can get Lybushin back

Not a fan of Lybushin. Downgrade from Schneider. Rather go after the giant finn on defense

 

[effen]

Any trade where you get Zegras and dump Goodrow is ok in my book. You’re probably dealing Othmann/Perrault on top of Kakko and a 1st.

It’s an interesting idea. Shake up the team but in a way that they are much better in paper? Still would need to add on D and in the grit department but Zegras & Henrique/Vatrano @ 50 for Kakko Othmann 1st all while getting rid of a liability in Goodrow sounds good to me

I don't see what Zegras does for them on the 3rd line. He's not displacing Mika or Tro for probably two years.

If they're stuck with Mika which is likely, I'd rather they just stand pat.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Zegras can line up at wing too but no. Not what we need.

 

[zlev]

weird that a player that good would get waived, he isnt that good...

newsflash: like 80% of nhl front offices are really stupid

 

[effen]

newsflash: like 80% of nhl front offices are really stupid

They can be stupid AND correctly identify Gauthier as being spare parts. Because he is.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

newsflash: like 80% of nhl front offices are really stupid

The stupid ones continue to give him chances. He's nothing.

 

[Raspewtin]

guys, Gauthier sucks lol

atrocious defensive player and has maybe 2-3 good games a year

give it up already

 

[haveandare]

Prices for mediocre rentals are really high. Any centers under $5M with a year left who are miserable to play against?

 

[LOFIN]

Prices for mediocre rentals are really high. Any centers under $5M with a year left who are miserable to play against?

Sure sounds like Frank the Tank to me!

 

[RGY]

guys, Gauthier sucks lol

atrocious defensive player and has maybe 2-3 good games a year

give it up already

Hmmm, still prefer him to Brodshitsky.

 

[mas0764]

We aren’t gonna get Zegras. It’s not Drury’s way. He’ll overpay for some plug who doesn’t address our 5v5 issues or our long term need for skill.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Zegras henrique vatrano strome

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I don't see what Zegras does for them on the 3rd line. He's not displacing Mika or Tro for probably two years.

If they're stuck with Mika which is likely, I'd rather they just stand pat.

Something with the two big pieces being Zegras for kakko is a move I can see happening. But in the offseason

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Yanni Gourde is the guy. If they can somehow pry him away…