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Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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Nickmo82 said:
It's basically a guarantee that, should he get traded, Kakko will suddenly become a consistent producer, right? And whatever we get for him will fall off a cliff.
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Drury’s first TDL was great. Last year was the opposite. I believe we’re going to see something in between.
 
Fitzy said:
You never know with such a high draft pick, there might always be a GM or two lurking around absolutely certain that they can turn him into the 70 point player he was expected to be when drafted.
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100% also if you move him for a rental you’ll end up having to pony up $ for a replacement in the off season. Sure maybe Othman can take his spot next season but that would be another player moving to his off wing and then you still need to replace Wheeler too. If you move kakko it has to be for a similar player who is under team control.
 
NYR Viper said:
What about:

Kakko + Robertson for Hanifan
Lindgren for Pinto + 3rd

Fills the center spot and LD spot
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Brutal overpayment for nyr on the first one. The 2nd sens say no. They already are trying to move a lhd (chych) because they have Sanderson & Chabot. Also I don’t get why they’re moving pinto. They have him for league minimum and did right by him during the whole investigation that he most likely rescinded any trade request. The deals would make more sense for the other teams if you swap the nyr players. Cgy needs lhd & ott would prob like to add kk it still don’t think they would give up pinto.
 
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I do not know if the KK rumors are true or not but anytime a #2 overall forward pick has 6 points after 28 games in his 5 season there will likely be talk.
 
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JimmyG89 said:
Hard no on that. He's lost steps and is a 3C, but not for Kakko.

I think it might be Girard. Lindgren becomes available and can be used to get assets for other deals or another hockey trade.
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Oh I’m not doing that either, just trying to follow the bread crumbs.

Don’t think Avs are moving Girard.

Lindgren is literally the first guy I’d be trying to trade on this roster right now, maybe the second behind Igor, but I’m also not in charge. The issue is we are too zeroed in on centers, that it becomes hard to move dmen at the moment
 
How can we be surprised at going all in? From Drury's perspective its to save his job and with Dolan it is the cash. You are talking 20 million plus in profit if you win 2 rounds, Its a no brainier for those in charge. If 24 is the main piece for Lindholm it will be a big upgrade. I would try to get Hanafin also. Then deal with resigning in offseason. Kreider needs to go along with Goodrow in the summer. Mika without his bro could want out also. This is how we roll. Bread has held up his end
 
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Savant said:
Oh I’m not doing that either, just trying to follow the bread crumbs.

Don’t think Avs are moving Girard.

Lindgren is literally the first guy I’d be trying to trade on this roster right now, maybe the second behind Igor, but I’m also not in charge. The issue is we are too zeroed in on centers, that it becomes hard to move dmen at the moment
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Girard is another small D. The Avs won the Cup with Girard out of the lineup. Jack Johnson's size was a better fit in the playoffs. Barbashev knocked Girard out of the playoffs with a broken sternum.

He would a horrible addition.
 
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JimmyG89 said:
Hard no on that. He's lost steps and is a 3C, but not for Kakko.

I think it might be Girard. Lindgren becomes available and can be used to get assets for other deals or another hockey trade.
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There’s no good deals with Colorado. Girard is not as good as he was hyped to be after his first few years. Plus we have a cheaper version of him in Jones. Also if you get girard who is going to actually defend on the left side, esp if you move lindgren to replace kk. If you’re moving kakko it needs to be for another fwd. I personally wouldn’t do these but it would need to be for a player like pinto or kaliyev, a player under team control with some upside.
 
RangerBoy said:
Girard is another small D. The Avs won the Cup with Girard out of the lineup. Jack Johnson's size was a better fit in the playoffs. Barbashev knocked Girard out of the playoffs with a broken sternum.

He would a horrible addition.
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I don’t want him either. Just saying I know the Avs have kept him out of trade talks.
 
AlaBlueShirt said:
Drury’s first TDL was great. Last year was the opposite. I believe we’re going to see something in between.
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Last year was great until they gave Kane what he wanted

In a separate note I could see Kakko asking for a trade soon anyway . Change of scenery
 
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Only way I consider moving Kakko is for longer term moves.

Chychrun and Pinto
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Kakko, 2024 1st and a conditional pick and/or prospect (If they want Lindgren, I'd give them Lindgren )
 
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cheech70 said:
How can we be surprised at going all in? From Drury's perspective its to save his job and with Dolan it is the cash. You are talking 20 million plus in profit if you win 2 rounds, Its a no brainier for those in charge. If 24 is the main piece for Lindholm it will be a big upgrade. I would try to get Hanafin also. Then deal with resigning in offseason. Kreider needs to go along with Goodrow in the summer. Mika without his bro could want out also. This is how we roll. Bread has held up his end
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Lindholm can also play RW just saying

I mentioned Mangiapanne who has 1 yr left that makes more sense for Kakko imo

If it’s a 1st or Kakko then what do we want ?
 
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cheech70 said:
You would be too...or you would be gone..If Drury doesn't make something happen as NYR GM his career in NHL is limited.
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Drury's team needs more size, strength and grit in the top 6 and on the blueline. He can acquire a million rentals and it won't make a difference. I would rather get fired and collect my money at home than make stupid trades. Drury is the one who ends up looking bad.

Savant said:
I don’t want him either. Just saying I know the Avs have kept him out of trade talks.
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Girard is another small D.
 
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Vitto79 said:
That’s strange I hope they win the cup
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You think the Rangers way is the Cup winning way.

The Rangers are trading Kakko and a first round pick for a rental. Who knows what other short term moves are being planned?

I listen to these podcasts and the Rangers have all of these assets to trade. What assets? The Rangers have traded two first round picks for rentals in the last two seasons. Drury traded two 2nd round picks in 25 and 26 to dump Nemeth's contract. Nemeth is playing in Europe.

The Rangers don't have many young assets left. Now Drury is trading the remaining young players for rentals. The draft pick pool is getting low. The Rangers haven't made many high picks in the last few seasons.

Yes. Crash and burn. Dolan loses his sexual assault lawsuit. The NHL and NBA forces him to sell. The Rangers rebuild again because they won't have anything left. The team will suck and they didn't accomplish anything with their short term trades.
 
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