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Proposal: Roster Building Thread Part IV: High Hopes

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Would probably never happen, but Zajac for Staal could work for both teams and the players.

If Staal doesn't want to move, then NJ would fit the bill.

A Zajac buyout in 2018 is far more palpable. Same with 2019.
 
Just saw that Prust was offered a PTO by the Kings. Miss that guy like crazy. Also what do you guys think we get for Nasher at the deadline?
 
TheKingsCourt said:
Just saw that Prust was offered a PTO by the Kings. Miss that guy like crazy. Also what do you guys think we get for Nasher at the deadline?
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They'll probably keep him as a self rental, but I'd move on from Ricky the 18-24 goal scorer.

Koroshev and a 1st for Nash at 50%.

Vince Dunn and a 1st.

Basically a decent prospect and a late 1st which is great considering the low effort sloth that you're dealing with.

If Nash is lighting it up as one might expect during a contract year, then you can bet the price is higher.

Say an Emil Petterson and a 1st, with a conditional 3rd that turns into a 2nd if the team makes it to the WCF.

All in all, it will come down the Rangers record at the trade deadline, plus a mix of Nash's productivity. Which is sad. Very sad. And shows you the inconsistency that comes from a lack of accountability.
 
I'd like to see us replace Nash with Evander Kane long-term, don't really see it happening though. Most of that huge Nash cap hit will be taken by guys getting raises, right?
 
I Am Classless said:
I'd like to see us replace Nash with Evander Kane long-term, don't really see it happening though. Most of that huge Nash cap hit will be taken by guys getting raises, right?
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Yeah. Miller, Hayes, Vesey, and Skjei all need new contracts after this season.
 
If we speculate here a little, how much can we expect the four of them to get? And for how long?
 
If Miller and Hayes have 50+ point years, they'll get 4.5+ easily. Maybe deals similar to Kreider for both

Skjei should be signed long term similar to McD

And I don't see any scenario where Vesey isn't bridged. 2 years at 2.25-2.5
 
Did anyone expect more trades this offseason around the NHL?

Feels kind of quiet so far.
 
Carlos Ranger said:
Not if you play them together :dunno:

Kreider-Zib-Zucc
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Buch-Andersson-Jagr
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Yes, `sigh, I guess it`s possible to play Buch out of position, but do we really need Jagr - he will probably demand a (2.5-3) mil $ contract and can we afford it?
 
NickyFotiu said:
Did anyone expect more trades this offseason around the NHL?

Feels kind of quiet so far.
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Has a lot to do with COL and Sakic being a little passive when it comes to pulling the trigger.

Most of the names I heard on the market were held up by COL's inability to finish the deal.

So teams moved on.

I think you'll see a flurry of waiver related moves once training camp starts, but the Rangers have some useless SPC slots, so they need to adjust their needs carefully.

Still think they add a 4th line center ala Brodziak.

I'd also give up a couple of decent pieces for Girgensons who will be mildly overpaid.
 
I Am Classless said:
I'd like to see us replace Nash with Evander Kane long-term, don't really see it happening though. Most of that huge Nash cap hit will be taken by guys getting raises, right?
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As would I, but the trade market for EKane was and will be very slim. BUF will not get anything close to fair value in a trade.
 
Mikos87 said:
Would probably never happen, but Zajac for Staal could work for both teams and the players.

If Staal doesn't want to move, then NJ would fit the bill.

A Zajac buyout in 2018 is far more palpable. Same with 2019.
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Zajac just had a 45 point season, he's overpaid, a bit. Not grossly that the Devils take Staal.

Kid plays lots of games (reliable) and is an average 40-45 point player that can play d and is pretty good in the dots.

Not a buyout candidate for the Devils at all
 
The general manager of the team has traded his top two centers in back to back summers. He is not operating like a GM going for it now. The team is worse off right now than it was last season. I like Mika very much but he is a younger player still trying to find consistency in his game, Stepan and Lindberg are gone. No replacements have been acquired. David Desharnais? Fast will miss the first few weeks of the season. The back up goaltender is not very good. He is their worst back up since Auld in 2010.

The D should be better. The rest of the team isn't.

When and where are the replacements coming? The trading deadline?

You look at the Rangers roster since the loss to Pittsburgh.

Nine skaters are remaining. Skjei wasn't a regular during the 15-16 season. More players off that team will not be back for 18-19.

Gorton talked about the team being in transition. Rebuild on fly. Work in progress.

"I don't think we are an old team, but we're a little bit in transition right now, so I tried to go and change our team up a little bit," Gorton said at the team's hotel in Chicago. "Obviously, we had some salary cap issues (before the trade) and then we got an opportunity to go into the top 10 (in the draft), where there are some players we like, and DeAngelo is a player we liked and the type of player we didn't have. You put all those things together, that's the biggest reason why (to make the trade)."
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As for what happens next with the Rangers' roster after Friday's big deal? Gorton had a simple take:

"We are a work in progress."
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http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/new...oyotes-dan-girardi/153de5e6ts5zp1lpyz4wz0qk1g

The Rangers are all of those things.
 
RangerBoy said:
The general manager of the team has traded his top two centers in back to back summers. He is not operating like a GM going for it now. The team is worse off right now than it was last season. I like Mika very much but he is a younger player still trying to find consistency in his game, Stepan and Lindberg are gone. No replacements have been acquired. David Desharnais? Fast will miss the first few weeks of the season. The back up goaltender is not very good. He is their worst back up since Auld in 2010.

The D should be better. The rest of the team isn't.

When and where are the replacements coming? The trading deadline?

You look at the Rangers roster since the loss to Pittsburgh.

Nine skaters are remaining. Skjei wasn't a regular during the 15-16 season. More players off that team will not be back for 18-19.

Gorton talked about the team being in transition. Rebuild on fly. Work in progress.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/new...oyotes-dan-girardi/153de5e6ts5zp1lpyz4wz0qk1g

The Rangers are all of those things.
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He also said:
Gorton, though, believes he will be able to find suitable replacements for Stepan and Raanta before the start of next season.
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Which Leads me to believe they are not Finished
The loss of Lindberg will hurt a bit too. Especially as he was primed in to moving up in the depth chart (how far one can now only speculate). Desharnais is meh as a replacement from the past two years and is heading in the opposite direction as well.
 
I remember the not so nice things that were said about Raanta when they brought him in. Just saying.

A team without Girardi is already better then last year.

The team is young yes but you make it sound like eveyone will stagnate. Buch will be in full time. Skjei will improve off last season. McD won't have an anchor for a partner. Staal should not be on the first 2 pairs.

Some combination of Zbad, Kreider, Hayes, Miller and Vesey should take the next step in their development.

If none of them do, then yes they are in trouble.

Biggest issue with this team last year was the D. They could score but would lose games 5-4 or 4-3. They addressed the biggest hole. They may have created another hole, but its smaller then their issues on D last year.
 
RangerBoy said:
The general manager of the team has traded his top two centers in back to back summers. He is not operating like a GM going for it now. The team is worse off right now than it was last season. I like Mika very much but he is a younger player still trying to find consistency in his game, Stepan and Lindberg are gone. No replacements have been acquired. David Desharnais? Fast will miss the first few weeks of the season. The back up goaltender is not very good. He is their worst back up since Auld in 2010.

The D should be better. The rest of the team isn't.

When and where are the replacements coming? The trading deadline?

You look at the Rangers roster since the loss to Pittsburgh.

Nine skaters are remaining. Skjei wasn't a regular during the 15-16 season. More players off that team will not be back for 18-19.

Gorton talked about the team being in transition. Rebuild on fly. Work in progress.





http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/new...oyotes-dan-girardi/153de5e6ts5zp1lpyz4wz0qk1g

The Rangers are all of those things.
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Hard to argue the C departures but generally I think that JG has done a great job in transitioning the team yet keeeping us competitive as opposed to all out future mortgage or tanking it. Another move for a C would be ideal however.
 
I like what I see in Andersson playing for Sweden but can't expect him to play this year. Next year different story . Same for Boo, he should get call ups but another year in CT is best

I think they will find a reject C before the year starts
 
RangerBoy said:
The general manager of the team has traded his top two centers in back to back summers. He is not operating like a GM going for it now. The team is worse off right now than it was last season. I like Mika very much but he is a younger player still trying to find consistency in his game, Stepan and Lindberg are gone. No replacements have been acquired. David Desharnais? Fast will miss the first few weeks of the season. The back up goaltender is not very good. He is their worst back up since Auld in 2010.

The D should be better. The rest of the team isn't.

When and where are the replacements coming? The trading deadline?

You look at the Rangers roster since the loss to Pittsburgh.

Nine skaters are remaining. Skjei wasn't a regular during the 15-16 season. More players off that team will not be back for 18-19.

Gorton talked about the team being in transition. Rebuild on fly. Work in progress.





http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/new...oyotes-dan-girardi/153de5e6ts5zp1lpyz4wz0qk1g

The Rangers are all of those things.
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I definitely don't agree that the team is worse off then a year ago. I think we're a significantly better team now then a year ago actually, even with that hole at C.

Getting rid of Girardi and replacing him with Shattenkirk is a MASSIVE upgrade on D, add that we're likely to have Skjei and Smith in top 4 roles aswell over Staal and Holden.

I think most people underestimate just how much it means to go from a bottom 5 D to a top 10 D (when accounting for usage, assuming Skjei and Smith in top 4).
 
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