Roster Building Thread - Part II: Entry Draft Edition

[Beer League Sniper]

Malkin already has a better deal on the table with PIT than he is likely to get in free agency from a playoff team. His agent is flexing a bit because his ego is bruised, but I don't believe for a minute that he signs with anyone else.

We need to take advantage of the situation the cap crunch has created, and snag one or two of these reclamation projects. Colorado grabbed Nichushkin off the scrap heap 3 years ago, and have gotten a big-time player for pennies on the dollar. Sure, they just paid him, but who the hell cares? They just won a cup.

Grab Dylan Strome or Colin White. Sign Stastny, or Zucker (if he gets bought out). I think there will be real bargains to be had if we can just stay away from the high cap hit UFAs.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Let's say we buy out Nemeth today. Would mean we have 11,7ish for next season. Still need a #2 goalie, re-sign Kakko and apparently we are the front-runners for Kadri. I guess you could make all that work, at least for next season. Don't know how viable it would be in the long run.

If Drury is dead set on signing Kadri, I guess Kakko would be the odd man out but for what value? RFA who is turning more into a reclamation project soon? Just giving him away to make cap space for #2C would be horrible asset management IMO.

We are? He is a great fit but how can we afford that beyond this year?

 

[LOFIN]

We are? He is a great fit but how can we afford that beyond this year?

That's what Seravalli said today on Toronto radio. Now I don't think Seravalli is all that good in his speculation but whatever, I doubt he's wrong in saying we are one of the teams on him.

And no idea how we could get this done. Like I said, for next season it's doable. After that, some pieces need to go overboard. Not just Kakko either...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Trochek gets branded as a 2 way C but the reality is that he kind of sucks defensively.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The Rangers trading JT for essentially nothing only to turn around and trade huge assets and hand him a bad deal would be peak Rongos

God I hope it isn’t JT

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That's what Seravalli said today on Toronto radio. Now I don't think Seravalli is all that good in his speculation but whatever, I doubt he's wrong in saying we are one of the teams on him.

And no idea how we could get this done. Like I said, for next season it's doable. After that, some pieces need to go overboard. Not just Kakko either...

Seravalli has a great reputation, but I need to hear the audio because i very much doubt he said the Rangers are the front runners.

 

[Thirty One]

We are? He is a great fit but how can we afford that beyond this year?

Or this year, even. Seravalli said it will start with an 8. I don't really doubt that we're in, I don't think both Seravalli and Friedman are out to lunch on this, but I'm a little confused.

 

[Anthony5967]

Want and final number isn’t the same. We read 10 mil for Mika. Where’d he end up? 8.5.

My job isn’t to figure that out it’s Drurys job. But they are going to spend some money and move out some guys book it

Some more real talk. If you think they’re winning a Cup scratching together a few cheap centers behind Mika you are mistaken. And Drury knows it. Centers and D men will win you championships. Not wingers and plug in centers

Gold.

 

[McRanger92]

That's what Seravalli said today on Toronto radio. Now I don't think Seravalli is all that good in his speculation but whatever, I doubt he's wrong in saying we are one of the teams on him.

And no idea how we could get this done. Like I said, for next season it's doable. After that, some pieces need to go overboard. Not just Kakko either...

Im not sure I fully buy the Kadri stuff, but Drury might feel like he can thread the needle cap-wise for a couple years until they get the big cap bump. It's not crazy. My opinion is that these next 3 years will be our best chance to lift the Cup anyway. Dumping Panarin or Trouba with only 1 or 2 years left seems doable.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Kakko seems unfazed by rumors he might be getting traded. Nice to see him enjoying a normal summer, especially since he hasn't had one since before he was drafted.

Get it out of the system and start training in a few weeks.

Kakko used to be cool when he was an incel, now he's just a cringe simp who lusts for the affection of a woman? Trade his goofy ass.


I hope they trade Nemet. you're telling me one of these teams who are 15-20M under the floor won''t take him?

 

[LOFIN]

Seravalli has a great reputation, but I need to hear the audio because i very much doubt he said the Rangers are the front runners.

Seravalli is great at breaking stuff, but I don't think his speculation has been that great.
Anyway, from around 18.05 mark onwards:

 

[PuckLuck3043]

That's what Seravalli said today on Toronto radio. Now I don't think Seravalli is all that good in his speculation but whatever, I doubt he's wrong in saying we are one of the teams on him.

And no idea how we could get this done. Like I said, for next season it's doable. After that, some pieces need to go overboard. Not just Kakko either...

I'm just surprised by this because I thought there was no way we can afford him plus he is going to be 32 in October. He's going to get overpaid by some team and I was just assuming it wouldn't be us.

 

[pld459666]

Only center I am comfortable moving Kakko for is PLD.

He fits the time line in terms of competing and is a great in-house replacement to take over #1 duties for when Mika starts to fade in 2-3 years.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m sure Drury is interested in Kadri (because he’s interested in everyone) but I very much doubt it’s a realistic option

 

[Thirty One]

Seravalli has a great reputation, but I need to hear the audio because i very much doubt he said the Rangers are the front runners.

Here's the quote:

What's your sense telling you about Nazem Kadri?

"Massive money. I think for sure it's an AAV that starts with an 8. Curious about the term because he is a little bit older. He's almost for sure not going back to Colorado. I've just heard repeatedly that one team has set Nazem Kadri above and beyond on their list is the New York Rangers."

Goes on to say it's not "cooked" meaning tampered and done.

Kakko used to be cool when he was an incel, now he's just a cringe simp who lusts for the affection of a woman? Trade his goofy ass.


I hope they trade Nemet. you're telling me one of these teams who are 15-20M under the floor won''t take him?

I wouldn't if I were them.

 

[TheBPA]

It's clear that Drury is doing his diligence by exploring the cost of every potential center that fits the roster, whether through free agency or trade. He's doing his job, as he should.

That gives the insiders a chance to say "Rangers are interested" about every single one of them. All it really means is that a GM is being a GM.

 

[LORDE]

Perhaps, but if we want to win more than 1 cup in 82 years, we need to start doing some things better than we have in the past. With so many players not getting QOs, there is a lot of value out on the free agent market. And there is a lot of value in the trade market too, with teams looking to shed cap to sign high priced free agents. Instead of spending on a high priced free agent or an expensive trade acquisition, we need to take advantage of the market and get good players at a discount.

Preaching to the choir here man... I, along with many others, wanted to draft and DEVELOP our own players...

We did half of that.

As you point out, we have one cup in 82 yrs and until/unless we start doing some things better (much better in many areas) we won't win shit.

Development & pro-scouting have been HUGE black eye areas that I'd like to see real improvements made.

 

[Kovalev27]

There’s no way anyone pays kadri first line center money. He is not that. No one is going to do it. I think he’ll get 7 a year 4 or 5 years but no one is giving him 8 plus

 

[LOFIN]

I’m sure Drury is interested in Kadri (because he’s interested in everyone) but I very much doubt it’s a realistic option

It really shouldn't be. It's doable for next season, but I don't think you can necessarily look at the window here as just next season. f***ing up your cap structure for one run rarely makes sense.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'll say this about Kadri - He fits in WAYYY better than everyone else stylistically.

I'll also say this about Kadri - He's going to be the worst fit in terms of financial flexibility. Unless this is a secret dream destination where hes willing to take less money and term, I don't see how it works.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Im not sure I fully buy the Kadri stuff, but Drury might feel like he can thread the needle cap-wise for a couple years until they get the big cap bump. It's not crazy. My opinion is that these next 3 years will be our best chance to lift the Cup anyway. Dumping Panarin or Trouba with only 1 or 2 years left seems doable.

Even if they could find a way to make Kadri fit I don't think it's a smart decision to sign him. It guess if you could get him for 4 or 5 years it'd be easier to swallow but then how do you fit his AAV in?

 

[LOFIN]

There’s no way anyone pays kadri first line center money. He is not that. No one is going to do it. I think he’ll get 7 a year 4 or 5 years but no one is giving him 8 plus

Oh I'm sure some team is willing to give him 8x7. Just pray to god it's not the Rangers.

I'll say this about Kadri - He fits in WAYYY better than everyone else stylistically.

I'll also say this about Kadri - He's going to be the worst fit in terms of financial flexibility. Unless this is a secret dream destination where hes willing to take less money and term, I don't see how it works.

100%, Kadri would be the perfect fit for 2nd line C and almost the complete opposite of Strome. Which is what the Rangers need.

 

[bhamill]

On Kakko: I know it might seem like he's on the way out as far as young assets going for a center, but he's at an all time low as far as trade value. Plus he will obviously be signed for less being that he has not broken out. YET. This is the absolutely worst time to trade him if you want decent value, and for that reason, UNLESS NYR management thinks he's a bust, OR some team ponies up beyond what you'd expect, I don't think they will trade him. Personally I feel like this will be his breakout year. He started really flashing the signs before he played injured for a month and then missed most of the rest of the season, and then stepped it up in the playoffs. I think he's primed. If he does break out in the first few months they can decide whether to keep him or trade him for realistic value, and if he does NOT, it wont affect what they get for him all THAT much, since people think he wont currently bring much anyway.
On JT Miller: MISTAKE. Not because he wouldn't help the team an awful lot in a cap free world, but because NYR are either 1) trading a metric shit ton of assets for him for one year which butt reams our future chances or 2) trading a metric shit ton of assets for him and then signing him at 9m x 7yrs and totally f***ing their chances of re-signing young guys who are the future of this team. Paying 34 to 37year old Miller 9m of cap space is a f***ing nightmare.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Funny how the Malkin/Kakko's of the world hit home runs and then you have a god like Henrik who goes the other direction with it

Hank's wife is incredibly beautiful, what are you talking about?

 

[McRanger92]

It really shouldn't be. It's doable for next season, but I don't think you can necessarily look at the window here as just next season. f***ing up your cap structure for one run rarely makes sense.

The window is 3 seasons