Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Off-season Part I

[Anthony5967]

Drury has enough between the ears to know what it takes to have a career in NA and win a Stanley Cup. Kravstov hasn't even won a Gagarin Cup. Why wouldn't Kravstov want to prove himself here against the best of the best instead of in an inferior league? Because someone made him a lil uppyset and he+his camp decided that acting vindictive is better for his career? It's his right to exercise his out clause - However that doesn't seem too confident in himself by enacting it to return to an inferior league where he's just comfortable. Not going to grow staying in your comfort zone.

If he's so confident in himself, he should have had the cajones to stay in NA and show he can do it in NA. Running away from criticism from your boss doesn't scream "confidence" or ownership of himself to me. Kakko took a game 6 ECF healthy scratch like a champ and says he wants to prove that he's better and that he belongs here. He bounced back from a massive, public L and is pressing on. That's mental strength.

Hopefully Kravstov realizes there are a dozen other guys behind and around him that are more than willing to swallow their lumps and put in the work. Kravstov hasn't proven he's willing to handle the relatively common hardships/setbacks that 99% of the players in the NHL have faced. God help us if we ever get to a point where Gallant can scratch this kid, he's going to hop on a flight mid-game.

Beautiful post

 

[Alluckks]

Chytil + Lundqvist + prospect/conditional pick for PLD
Kravstov attached to Nemeth to ship him
Zucker for something like a minimum contract would be huge
The Paul contract is also a very good reference point for Motte; Paul coming off a 16 goal, 32 point season, get Motte for 5-6 years at 1.8-1.9 per

Kreider Zib Laf
Panarin PLD Copp
Zucker Goodrow Kakko
Motte Rydahl Cuylle

 

[CLW]

Yes and Tampa won 2 cups and went to the finals. I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement because there certainly is. I'm saying we also dished it out and are more physical than a lot of teams. Also Goodrow was playing nowhere near 100% and Blais missed most of the season. Both of those guys were brought in for series just like the Tampa series. Too bad we didn't get to see them healthy. Again, there is still work to be done in that respect.

The Rangers didn't lose the series against Tampa because of physicality. Colorado won the cup because they move the puck the best out of all teams. Tampa, despite being "abnormally physical", ie cheating like hell & hitting as hard and as much as they could, couldn't keep up. The Rangers need to learn from both teams better than them. Simple.

 

[Go Rangers]

Strome will likely have surgery that keeps him out 6-8 months. That is a verifiable rumor

Maybe that’ll keep the Rangers from doing something familiar

 

[Fitzy]

Kadri just won a cup and had a career year.

He will almost certainly take the biggest best egg offered unless he has some sort of strong strong regional/city preference.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

I know both the rumor and general sentiment is that Bergeron will absolutely re-sign with the Bruins, but why hasn’t it happened yet?

He’s the perfect answer to exactly what we need. Just a matter of luring him (which may certainly be unrealistic, but who knows).

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Means zero? Maybe Larry should go back to working for the Devils and show Drury the right way?

Do you work for the Rangers? Because anytime anyone on here criticizes the coach, GM, etc, you quote that post and argue that "blah blah thinks they can do better." Get some new material.

 

[Fitzy]

I know both the rumor and general sentiment is that Bergeron will absolutely re-sign with the Bruins, but why hasn’t it happened yet?

He’s the perfect answer to exactly what we need. Just a matter of luring him (which may certainly be unrealistic, but who knows).

It would be more than perfect but it’ll never happen.

Some guys, especially European players get very content with one NA city and in many cases would rather go home and play to finish their careers rather than go through the hassle of moving for one or two more seasons.

 

[mas0764]

The Rangers didn't lose the series against Tampa because of physicality. Colorado won the cup because they move the puck the best out of all teams. Tampa, despite being "abnormally physical", ie cheating like hell & hitting as hard and as much as they could, couldn't keep up. The Rangers need to learn from both teams better than them. Simple.

Yeah I hope that helps put to bed the stupid idea that the Rangers need to be more physical. They need to be more talented. Like Colorado.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Do you work for the Rangers? Because anytime anyone on here criticizes the coach, GM, etc, you quote that post and argue that "blah blah thinks they can do better." Get some new material.

Yes I used to work for the Rangers and play with Chris Drury. In fact when a player took a cheap shot at me it was captain Chris Drury that came to my defense and dropped his gloves. My name is Jaromir. Nice to meet you.

 

[MrAlmost]

Kadri is 100% the player we should get..........in 2 years when the team that signed him is desperate to eat half and dump his contract.

 

[duhmetreE]

You are really overstating this. That can be said about a lot of top 6 players around the league. We have quite a few guys who play physical and the number 1 assassin in the league in Trouba supposedly. Beside Reaves there is also Lindgren, Schneider, Kreider, Goodrow, Blais, and Laf who can play physical and I see Miller becoming more like that as well. We do need a little less perimeter play from some people and more drive to the middle create havoc guys though. We will see what the upcoming changes bring this off season.

that is my point. We have TOO MANY 'top6' players. It destroys the balance of the team.

There's a balance that is needed and we do not have it. To gain it, we'd have to ship out more 'top6 players' and add strong 2way middle 6ers. Buch for Blais isn't it. I'm talking more along the lines of the Copps, Pauls and Motte's of the world.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Seravelli continuing to throw shit at the wall with Kadri to NYR. He’s a great player and a good fit but there’s no chance he fits under the cap

I don't see how it works either but Seravalli doesn't just make shit up.

 

[duhmetreE]

We were atrocious 5v5 all season.. Please look at the big picture. PPP are great. Please don't tell me how many points <insert PP specialist here> had

You still need to drive play more than 30% of the time. Zibs line ended up with 35% xG in the playoffs. That is abhorrent.

Panarin line not that much better at 40%.

Why isn't 5v5 working with all this talent? Because the entire system relies on players initiating and attacking. It's why the kid line was effective..... It's why there needs to be a complete recalibration with the roster. We have the winning pieces IMO... it needs some tweaking though.

 

[NYR Viper]

Ironically, part of the reason people don’t want to sign Copp is because of what may be in 2-3 years and yet Tampa just continues to show that when you sign good players, there’s always a way to trade out of it to create breathing room

 

[RangersFan1994]

Chytil + Lundqvist + prospect/conditional pick for PLD
Kravstov attached to Nemeth to ship him
Zucker for something like a minimum contract would be huge
The Paul contract is also a very good reference point for Motte; Paul coming off a 16 goal, 32 point season, get Motte for 5-6 years at 1.8-1.9 per

Kreider Zib Laf
Panarin PLD Copp
Zucker Goodrow Kakko
Motte Rydahl Cuylle

Othmann has the edge over Cuylle to make the team.

 

[duhmetreE]

Seravelli continuing to throw shit at the wall with Kadri to NYR. He’s a great player and a good fit but there’s no chance he fits under the cap

lets hope it's real, minus the fat overpayment of AAV and NMC. He's a great 2C.

He was a main piece of the engine in Colorado.

 

[AirGut]

If we move Georgiev/Nemeth/Gauthier and Strome/Copp/Vatrano/Braun are all walking
Is there ANY money at all left to squeeze in a guy like Kadri? Would Kadri be willing to even entertain a $6M contract to come here and play in New York? If Drury really is eye-balling Kadri hard I wonder if CD would work some weird magic just to get him on the team

Seravalli just won't stop with the KadriNYR talk

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[Mac n Gs]

Seravalli is probably doing Darren Ferris a favor by constantly mentioning the Kadri to NYR stuff. It’s probably a negotiating tactic to get someone in the East to up the value of the contract

 

[DialUp]

Ironically, part of the reason people don’t want to sign Copp is because of what may be in 2-3 years and yet Tampa just continues to show that when you sign good players, there’s always a way to trade out of it to create breathing room

Tampa signs better players though. They know exactly what they are doing. Whether it's Stevie Y or whoever it is that makes the moves now ( forgot his name).

Tampa wouldn't sign a dude like Copp for the price he will command. Not sure they have any use for him at any price.

Basically, Tampa isnt a good comp in this case. Copp was probably hurt though for us, so not sure how good he could be. He was solid going into the playoffs.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Drury has enough between the ears to know what it takes to have a career in NA and win a Stanley Cup. Kravstov hasn't even won a Gagarin Cup. Why wouldn't Kravstov want to prove himself here against the best of the best instead of in an inferior league? Because someone made him a lil uppyset and he+his camp decided that acting vindictive is better for his career? It's his right to exercise his out clause - However that doesn't seem too confident in himself by enacting it to return to an inferior league where he's just comfortable. Not going to grow staying in your comfort zone.

If he's so confident in himself, he should have had the cajones to stay in NA and show he can do it in NA. Running away from criticism from your boss doesn't scream "confidence" or ownership of himself to me. Kakko took a game 6 ECF healthy scratch like a champ and says he wants to prove that he's better and that he belongs here. He bounced back from a massive, public L and is pressing on. That's mental strength.

Hopefully Kravstov realizes there are a dozen other guys behind and around him that are more than willing to swallow their lumps and put in the work. Kravstov hasn't proven he's willing to handle the relatively common hardships/setbacks that 99% of the players in the NHL have faced. God help us if we ever get to a point where Gallant can scratch this kid, he's going to hop on a flight mid-game.

All good points but that was still some strange behavior by the Rangers not to have him on the team bonding trip to Rhode Island last year. Kravtsov had a bad finger which was no excuse from excluding him. This was all before he was sent down.
Sounded at the time that someone in the organization had it out for the kid.
Put yourself in his skates.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That is interesting. Did the players expect the team to not suck or something? Maybe they saw Vegas and had high expectations.

Fans were skeptical about the makeup of that team from day one right after the expansion draft ended.

Locker room vibes are about more than just winning or losing.

 

[McRanger92]

If the Rangers are willing to lose Reaves as well as Nemeth, there might be room for Kadri. It would be the ultimate win-now move though

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Chytil + Lundqvist + prospect/conditional pick for PLD
Kravstov attached to Nemeth to ship him
Zucker for something like a minimum contract would be huge
The Paul contract is also a very good reference point for Motte; Paul coming off a 16 goal, 32 point season, get Motte for 5-6 years at 1.8-1.9 per

Kreider Zib Laf
Panarin PLD Copp
Zucker Goodrow Kakko
Motte Rydahl Cuylle

Why would Zucker sign for a minimum? Or anything even close to that?

And why the hell would we ship off Krav for a salary dump??? That is BRUTAL. Guy is getting paid under a Million to be a solid winger for us who may be a huge player for us in the future. We arent getting anything close to that in the market.