Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Off-season Part I

[The Crypto Guy]

I just read Vince’s article and he says literally nothing new about Kakko and Kravstov lol

Guy is becoming the new Larry with his clickbait

It was literally such a trash article that doesnt even deserve to be posted. Vince is terrible. At least Larry sometimes has new information.

 

[rangers1314]

Freidman says expect a Boston coaching decision today.

Seravalli tweets that the finalists in Boston are DQ, Jay Leach and Mike Vellucci. DQ seen as front runner. LOL.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

So any chance a team takes Georgiev W Nemeth for nothing ?

I’d like a late pick but depends if Nemeth is really that much negative value

Lol are we the knicks?

 

[alkurtz]

The Rangers are really caught in a bind in filling the #2 center slot. We've seen in the playoffs exactly how important, vital even, that the position is.

I've never been as critical of Strome as many here, in many ways he is a fine player, limited by his skating and defensive ability, but who has much to offer. But, I agree, it is time to move on from him and see if we can upgrade the position.

I'm not anywhere close to being convinced that Copp is a #2 center, especially if he is play with Panarin. I see him more as a winger. I would love to have him back but his cap hit just might be something we cannot afford.

We don't have the cap space to sign a #2 center UFA, even if one were available. Same with making a trade for a legit #2 center. Nobody is going to give up a young, talented center either. There are no potential #2s in our system.

What to do if Drury can't somehow get creative?

I'm fine with, if the decision is to not resign Strome and Copp prices himself out, with given Chytil a long, hard look at #2 center. Sometimes you need to give players a change to grow. Though I have my doubts, I think he has the skillset to be that player. He will never be a puck distributor center but perhaps strong on the forecheck, with skating to drive the net, and shoot.

If the Rangers, in their internal evaluations, do not believe Chytil is that guy, than, reluctantly, if he wants to take a shorter, cap friendly deal, I'm OK with resigning Strome. In a cap world, in our cap world, he fits. We all know his limitations, and they are significant. But, if can't sign Copp, can't sign a UFA free agent, can't make a trade for a #2 center or a young player with the potential to fill that roll, don't believe Chytil is that guy, than what else can we do?

We just might circle back to Strome as the only available option, as much as most here, including me, would prefer to move on.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Freidman says expect a Boston coaching decision today.

Seravalli tweets that the finalists in Boston are DQ, Jay Leach and Mike Vellucci. DQ seen as front runner. LOL.

Hahah PLEASE GOD let boston have David Quinn as their coach. This happens i do not worry about the devils, islanders, or boston for the foreseeable future. With those coaches they arent going anywhere..

 

[Larrybiv]

Really appreciate your account of playing sports in your 20s, the detail of your 153-pound frame and decline into your 30s is particularly relevant.

With a name like "good intentions", your post wasn't. In fact pretty brutal and left wondering WHY you just don't "not post".
Having a bad day?

 

[rangers1314]

FWIW, the producer of Spittin Chicklets just tweeted a .gif of DQ with the eyeballs emoji....god speed Bruins fans.

Imagine being even remotely excited that your team just fired Bruce Cassidy to hire David Quinn? Imagine being excited your team hired David Quinn at all? Hilarious.

 

[Larrybiv]

To me the only thing that would concern me going forward with having Chytil as a full-time C is at the dot. However, he has improved in that area. I don’t know, I’m very comfortable riding with the Kid Line as line two next year, I really am.

Me as well. Think about it. These kids just reaped a little success in PO's (especially Filip) and are growing "together". Let's face it, we will make PO's unless.......so why not allow them that luxury together. I feel like you do, and It's imperative that Filip gets much more adept at the dot, it will only behoove that line in the long run, winning FO's and conrolling in the O-zone, opposed to chasing.
Wonder how Panarin being on 3rd line will suit him. Technically he will be playing against "lesser" players and should help his "declining" years. And yeah, I was being facetious.

 

[Bruner4329]

Strome has to walk. We just don't have the cap. He's the type of players that's a luxury that we just can't afford. He's not a gamebreaker, he doesn't drive play and his role on PP1 is extremely replaceable. He's a nice player but he's not the type of guy you lock up long term. Panarin will put up points with anyone.

Copp is the guy we need to bring back. I think where he is as a player is perfect for this teams window. You're going to get his best years especially playing with Panarin at a time we're in win-now mode. The fit is simply too good to pass up. If the term sucks, it is what it is. Move him at the deadline in 2 years with retention if you have to but this team is in win-now mode and he's the clear cut guy for literally every reason.

If his ask is too rich, I want Giroux on a 1/2 year deal or Nick Paul. I know Paul's not gonna put up 70 points in the top six and I could not care less because we're building a playoff team and holy shit is that dude difficult to play against in the playoffs. Hard nosed guy with size and a little skill up the middle; we haven't had that since Boyle in his prime and that team wasn't too bad itself.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kravtsov
Panarin-Paul-Othmann
Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko
Motte-Goodrow-Reaves/whoever when we don't need to punch faces

PP1:

Kreider net front, Zibanejad left wall, Panarin right wall, Laf bumper, Fox on the blueline


And we're set. Big question marks would be Othmann and Kravtsov. I'm not by any means a Kravtsov fan but I thought he was ready last year and that he got snuffed out of a roster spot solely based on his on-ice play. I don't know what or if anything happened behind the scenes with attitude but by all accounts seems to be the case. I can't imagine Drury would've been able to sign him again without a guarantee of him making the team out of camp next year unless he shows up drunk. Everyone knows what Othmann's been doing and yeah there'll be some growing pains defensively for both of them but I think he gets at least a 9 or however many game look to not burn a year off the ELC

So let me get this straight. We just resigned Blais to a $1.5 million contract for this season and you don't include him in any combos? Seriously you should know the roster before you put projected line combos out there. He maybe the wing on line 2 not Othmann.

 

[Anthony5967]

It’s not a good draft. The Rangers still have their 2nd unless they trade it. John Liley was able to find Knies in the 2nd round last year. Maybe they can get a pick for Georgiev’s rights. Day two of the draft is on July 8. The qualifying offers are due on 7/11.


Maybe Garand becomes a trade chip.

I’m always interested in things like this but how good is John Lilley’s track record? I know he ran Toronto for a bit. Does anybody know of any hits and misses?

 

[Vitto79]

Lol are we the knicks?

In this case it would be worth it
Take nothing for cap space …. Sure

 

[Anthony5967]

I would roll with Chytil as the 2C, keep your 2023 1st, and if something comes up around the deadline for a 2C, you pull the trigger with it. Let Chytil get half a season with Laf and Kakko. Let’s all pray their summer training turns them into beasts. I really wish Kakko would take up the Jagr training and strap 65 weighted bags and vests to himself. Guy would become a machine.

 

[LOFIN]

"By the way, according to information obtained during the final, the New York Rangers would be more than interested in acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois. Ongoing negotiations with the Jets on the parameters of a transaction. It's not done, but Chris Drury is very interested."

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

"By the way, according to information obtained during the final, the New York Rangers would be more than interested in acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois. Ongoing negotiations with the Jets on the parameters of a transaction. It's not done, but Chris Drury is very interested."

More interested in acquiring PLD than whom? Schiefele?

"By the way, according to information obtained during the final, the New York Rangers would be more than interested in acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois. Ongoing negotiations with the Jets on the parameters of a transaction. It's not done, but Chris Drury is very interested."

We make way too many trades with Winnipeg. Spread the wealth!

 

[MrAlmost]

"By the way, according to information obtained during the final, the New York Rangers would be more than interested in acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois. Ongoing negotiations with the Jets on the parameters of a transaction. It's not done, but Chris Drury is very interested."

I don't doubt they asked, I doubt they trade for him though.

 

[bobbop]

one fallback option id consider at c is cam atkinson - 3 more years at 5.8 so would probably have to pay phi to keep at least 1.5 and more term than ideal for a guy whos production has dropped off lately, but hasnt had much to work with. certainly seems like hes not thrilled to have torts again and the flyers look like theyre going youth so could see him being available pretty cheap. has a history producing w panarin, good buddy of kreider, and a local kid so theres a fit. not option 1a but if we need to use the trade market id prefer him at a reasonable price to say meeting an exorbitant van ask on miller

Need to read more. He’s thrilled to be back with Torts.

Non starter.

 

[Thirty One]

More interested in acquiring PLD than whom? Schiefele?

More than interested. Like beyond interested. Super-interested. Interested beyond the normal amount.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

He's a center who wins less than 50% of his faceoffs.

Of course we're interested in him.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Quinn needed to be fired but he’s an average coach. Boston won’t win with him but he’s not as bad as some are making him sound.

Boston had enough talent that they’ll be at least average

 

[bobbop]

IF they can acquire PLD at a reasonable price and IF he plays like he played in the bubble, it could be a helluva of an acquisition. Game changing.

 

[Ola]

Hahah PLEASE GOD let boston have David Quinn as their coach. This happens i do not worry about the devils, islanders, or boston for the foreseeable future. With those coaches they arent going anywhere..

Lol, Boston is blowing it apart and they want to tank. Recon that also is a 'niche' to have as a coach, if you want to lose as much as possible, this is the guy to hire!

Quinn needed to be fired but he’s an average coach. Boston won’t win with him but he’s not as bad as some are making him sound.

Boston had enough talent that they’ll be at least average

I have no idea, am not up to date about the talk around the league, but saw a rumor that involved Pasternak. Boston is way too good to finish bottom 5 but this current version will never be good enough to really compete for a cup. Bergeron and Krejci is getting older. They don't have a ton on the farm.

To me this smells that they are looking to blow things apart, or am I missing something?

 

[RangerBoy]

Dubois is a two year rental. How much is he getting in his next contract? He made $6.65M last season. 2 years. $14M-15M? The Rangers have money for that?

Chytil and Lundkvist to Winnipeg for Dubois. Two years. Bye bye.

The Rangers shed Chytil's $2.3M in the trade.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He's a center who wins less than 50% of his faceoffs.

Of course we're interested in him.

Of all the things to complain about here, this isn’t it.

 

[Thirty One]

He's a center who wins less than 50% of his faceoffs.

Of course we're interested in him.

Hopefully they pass on him and find a worse player who will win another 1 out of 20 faceoffs.

 

[Guyute]

I doubt the Rangers are willing to trade for PLD if he won't sign for more than 2 years. Not sure how the money works long-term, but he's exactly the type of center that the Rangers need.