Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

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How are the Rangers affording Kane?

A team needs 7/8/9 D to win. The Rangers have 5 D.
I think it was EF who talked about this topic a few weeks ago.

Davidson has already spoken to teams about acting as a pass through for a possible Kane trade, so the ground work for retention has already been laid.
 
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*This post is not meant to advocate for a Patrick Kane trade*

If they carry 22 roster players all year, that will free up about $3.6-4M in cap space by the deadline. Paper transacting someone like Rydahl down to the AHL on off-days will only add to that number.

So that space plus potentially adding Sammy Blais in the trade makes fitting Kane (@50% retained) work. But they won't have room to do anything else.

Since I am not really a fan of them spending what it would take in trade to go after Kane, or any other rental that would cost a 1st or more, them being inefficient with the cap space is not really the worst thing in the world in my perspective.

However if they are going to be inefficient with what could be their accrued deadline cap space during the season, and then also at the deadline, by making trades to gain cap space, which will cost them more assets ... basically being inefficient on two fronts, that's what they'll do I guess.
 
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Vesey being on a PTO and somehow getting a first line spot is comical, you can’t really even make it up but whatever
It's both hilarious and sad that the scenario of first line Jimmy Vesey which was talked about for weeks in jest is now happening. I would, without exaggeration, rather have any other wing on the team in that position. Kakko/Lafreniere/Goodrow/Blais/Kravtsov.
 
Vesey being on a PTO and somehow getting a first line spot is comical, you can’t really even make it up but whatever
He's earned at least a look there this preseason. Can't see it more than a reward for being the best player in camp but we have seen worse players in the league fill out complimentary 1st/2nd line roles.

3 points and 7 sog in 3 preseason games deserves more than to be buried on the 4th line.
 
He's earned at least a look there this preseason. Can't see it more than a reward for being the best player in camp but we have seen worse players in the league fill out complimentary 1st/2nd line roles.

3 points and 7 sog in 3 preseason games deserves more than to be buried on the 4th line.
Michael f***ing bunting is on Toronto’s first line. This is not a new phenomenon and shouldn’t be an issue if Mika and zib carry the line as they should. Vesey should focus on playing solid d, and shooting when he gets the puck.
 
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Vesey on the first line, if that is opening night too, tells me our team actually does kinda stink aside from our all world group. I can't blame this on the coach anymore, mentally.
 
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Vesey on the first line, if that is opening night too, tells me our team actually does kinda stink aside from our all world group. I can't blame this on the coach anymore, mentally.
Will depend on the Kids, as was always going to be the case this season
 
Michael f***ing bunting is on Toronto’s first line. This is not a new phenomenon and shouldn’t be an issue if Mika and zib carry the line as they should. Vesey should focus on playing solid d, and shooting when he gets the puck.
Exactly, the fan base should be ecstatic when a player outperforms his salary. Instead he will be the whipping boy and will only be producing because hes on a line with Zib and Kreider.

I want Laf or Kakko to take that next step too but Vesey is fine as a stopgap until then
 
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Will depend on the Kids, as was always going to be the case this season
Absolutely. But the kids, kinda, sorta, stink. Until they don't. Hope it's soon.

Michael f***ing bunting is on Toronto’s first line. This is not a new phenomenon and shouldn’t be an issue if Mika and zib carry the line as they should. Vesey should focus on playing solid d, and shooting when he gets the puck.
Bunting is pretty good though
 
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If he's really going with that 4th line for the season this is great. Many teams play a guy on the first line who fits with two stars. I'm not worried about Vesey yet. But being able to roll out that 4th line finally gives us what so many other teams run against us.
 
If he's really going with that 4th line for the season this is great. Many teams play a guy on the first line who fits with two stars. I'm not worried about Vesey yet. But being able to roll out that 4th line finally gives us what so many other teams run against us.
The biggest a most interesting thing from a team building perspective is the amount of ice time the kid line gets. I want wins first and foremost but the meta story is the kid line. At times last year whatever the 3rd line was was defacto 4th some games.

And prior to last year Bunting was a 25 year old AHL player who was good but not even close to one of the best players in the AHL.
Right things change WHEN they change. Ours haven't yet. Forward wise at least. Our defense is looking real nice for years
 
Vesey is the 4th RW they've cycled onto that line.

Don't know why everyone is jumping to the conclusion that THIS is the one that will stick. In fact I'm pretty confident that he's going to be the worst fit of the ones they've tried.

Also to Gerard and staff: If you're having trouble finding a fit there, the problem isnt the RW.

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That line up was what I was hoping for to start the season, likely with Goodrow, Blais and Vesey rotating in for the RW spot on Zibs line. At least until the Rangers can Bank enough cap space to add a rental.
 
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Vesey is the 4th RW they've cycled onto that line.

Don't know why everyone is jumping to the conclusion that THIS is the one that will stick. In fact I'm pretty confident that he's going to be the worst fit of the ones they've tried.
Why it won't stick is the real mystery and risk, not that it will. It's rare anyone's lines stick aside from the very very best
 
We moved Panarin to the right, that is not optimal for him.

Anyway, my point is just, we can’t have it both ways. I am fairly certain that you severely will hold back an elite offensively gifted young players development if you don’t play him on the PP for 4-5 years. If it’s not worth it to sacrifice whatever you need to sacrifice on the PP — fine. But all cards should be on the table when you make that decision. All pros and cons should be considered.

When David Quinn was here, we could have jump started these kids development (which basically is a must when you rush an 18 y/o kid to the NHL), but he chose to go with Colin Blackwell instead while it was clear that we only were playing for meaningless pts. That decision is criminally bad, and it’s such a shame that nobody recognized it among the experts covering this team and all the pundits. But it’s not that rare for NYR, nobody of the pundits knows anything about hockey or learned all they know in the 70s (total Ponzi clowns like JD included).

If it’s worth it to waste a Laf to get 5 goals more out of Ziba and the PP over 82 games — sure, you do it.

But Gallant in all likelihood won’t be here in 5 years, I will. What is good for him vs what is good for me differs quite much.
Panarin is at his best on the right wall with 3 right handed one timer options to his left, a short side tip option with Kreider in front and an option to shoot himself, all coming off his forehand because he's on his strong side so he has a favorable angle for passing while being able to disguise the pass as a shot.
 
I like this. That 4th line looks great. Give Vesey a short leash and swap with KK or Laf when needed.


Reavo used sparingly and Carpenter to guam.

If Kravtsov sticks this year and is productive, this team is winning the cup. I expect the kid line or kill it. I haven't seen any reason why they won't. The defense is what you want.

Find a 7th D. Add another middle 6 forward at the deadline and roll. Maybe that forward is another young guy that gets promoted mid season.

There is not one team that has this amount of talent spread throughout the lineup.
 
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